I am disappointed. The OFFICIAL thread.

[EBounding]

I was really disappointed...but Paul certainly doesn't sound disappointed or defeated. If he wasn't so energetic in his Maine speech, I would assume this is over. He would have every right to do so too. But as long as he's going to press on and be positive, so will I.

 

[jolynna]

I posted this on another thread but I am reposting it here.

Thanks to ALL who have said that as long as Paul stays with it, they will too.

I also want to ASSURE everyone that although things look bleak, YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. I can say this because I've been through it all before.

I was part of a movement during the 1960's and early 1970's that DIDN'T get a single candidate elected as president.

But, we ended a war.

My daughter and granddaughters are better off because of my making my voice heard about equal rights for equal pay. When I was in my twenties there were states where IF a woman married, SHE COULDN'T OWN PROPERTY. It became her husband's the minute she said "I do".

In my lifetime 3 young men were buried in a dam in Philadelphia, MS. I've seen pictures of the bodies that were dug up at a newspaper where I used to work. Those YOUNG MEN DIED so black people could vote.

People, the setback you've suffered today is discouraging and disappointing.

But, I can tell you that what all of YOU are facing and the fight you are fighting for yourselves, your children and your future grandchildren is EVERY BIT AS URGENT as what my generation fought for back in the 1960's and early 1970's.

Today I read that America was at the epitome of success back when I WAS protesting about conditions. Evidently when I thought things weren't GOOD enough, it was the glory days.

YOU are facing the endgame.

Are you just going to let it happen? And not stand behind the man who is spending his "golden years" working like a dog STILL fighting to make a differenc

AS I SAID...THREE YOUNG MEN IN MISSIPPI DIED...they ended up buried in mud under a dam on a farm because they wanted a better world for future generations.

They didn't win that round. But, today, life in Mississippi is a lot better for people of every color because of them. Nobody is asking anyone to die or do anything illegal or destructive. Just to make phone calls and talk to people about a message that you should be PROUD to promote.

People CAN make a difference if they DON'T GIVE UP. But, it doesn't always go smoothly.

Like Dr. Paul, I am STILL going and calling and am a delegate. I "could be" enjoying my retirement time. I will be fine no matter WHAT happens. I am working for you young people. And my children and grandchildren. And YOUR children and grandchildren.

Again, changing people's way of thinking might SEEM impossible. BUT, it can be done. I've witnessed it. I've been a part of it. And my generation was a scattered bunch with dozens of causes that wasn't especially cohesive. But, without cell phones OR the internet, we ended a war, fought for and achieved equality for women and desegregated the south.

People during my lifetime died to get MORE freedom. Yet within the four years freedoms that were taken for GRANTED when I was born HAVE BEEN given UP WITHOUT A PEEP.

I am so shocked by these developments I do not know what to say. Despite having experienced and seen a LOT over my lifetime, I am truly frightened by what might be ahead. Don't let ANYONE tell you these are NOT scary times.

 

[Gray Fullbuster]

I posted this on another thread but I am reposting it here.

Thanks to ALL who have said that as long as Paul stays with it, they will too.

I also want to ASSURE everyone that although things look bleak, YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. I can say this because I've been through it all before.

I was part of a movement during the 1960's and early 1970's that DIDN'T get a single candidate elected as president.

But, we ended a war.

My daughter and granddaughters are better off because of my making my voice heard about equal rights for equal pay. When I was in my twenties there were states where IF a woman married, SHE COULDN'T OWN PROPERTY. It became her husband's the minute she said "I do".

In my lifetime 3 young men were buried in a dam in Philadelphia, MS. I've seen pictures of the bodies that were dug up at a newspaper where I used to work. Those YOUNG MEN DIED so black people could vote.

People, the setback you've suffered today is discouraging and disappointing.

But, I can tell you that what all of YOU are facing and the fight you are fighting for yourselves, your children and your future grandchildren is EVERY BIT AS URGENT as what my generation fought for back in the 1960's and early 1970's.

Today I read that America was at the epitome of success back when I WAS protesting about conditions. Evidently when I thought things weren't GOOD enough, it was the glory days.

YOU are facing the endgame.

Are you just going to let it happen? And not stand behind the man who is spending his "golden years" working like a dog STILL fighting to make a differenc

AS I SAID...THREE YOUNG MEN IN MISSIPPI DIED...they ended up buried in mud under a dam on a farm because they wanted a better world for future generations.

They didn't win that round. But, today, life in Mississippi is a lot better for people of every color because of them. Nobody is asking anyone to die or do anything illegal or destructive. Just to make phone calls and talk to people about a message that you should be PROUD to promote.

People CAN make a difference if they DON'T GIVE UP. But, it doesn't always go smoothly.

Like Dr. Paul, I am STILL going and calling and am a delegate. I "could be" enjoying my retirement time. I will be fine no matter WHAT happens. I am working for you young people. And my children and grandchildren. And YOUR children and grandchildren.

Again, changing people's way of thinking might SEEM impossible. BUT, it can be done. I've witnessed it. I've been a part of it. And my generation was a scattered bunch with dozens of causes that wasn't especially cohesive. But, without cell phones OR the internet, we ended a war, fought for and achieved equality for women and desegregated the south.

+rep

 

[Badger for Paul]

I was one of the people whining that RP wasn't in it to win it because he didn't go to Maine.
Then he went.
Then he almost won the popular vote.
He will surely have the most delegates from Maine.
I'm back on the donation train again to give him a chance on Super Tuesday (or in Guam). But. . .

RP, Please Please Please make more appearances. You made them in Maine and look at the result. Grassroots can't do it alone!!

 

[pacelli]

 

[Revolution9]

Stopped reading the first sentence and stop attacking me for the love of god.
Excuse me for not breeding optimism. You are literally the worst poster from the time I've lurked here, you contribute nothing and add hate to too many things under the guise of "whippin deese trolls." I'm not trolling you sorry sack of shit. Get that through your head, I'm expressing my fucking opinion. You are a blight upon this forum and can not restrain yourself from attacking someone personally on any chance you get.

Read the fucking sticky, it's there for a reason. I'd rather not come back if you treat new members this way.

Boy oh boy.. Yer just full of yerself. TYou get no special privileges here and the reason you probably are seeing me whip up on a bunch of trollers is because they have been infesting this board for the last four or five days and it has been killing others support. You waltz in and add to it and then expect special treatment when you are just as guilty as you state with your "breeding optimism" comment. Nah. You would rather breed pessimism. My job is to shut your type down so the rest of us can get on with grassroots activities without the continual squelch and FUD gambits and whining. Trust me.. If I wasn't doing this with a few others good at potshotting this board would be overrun with trolls from other campaigns and opposing media personality fanbois running riot here pretending to be RP supporters and killing the GR with every thread they post in. . It ain't hate pal. It is called smacking disrespect right in the choppers. I go after the comment and thought..not the poster, though it is often the case that the same avatars keep up the same gambits over and over.

I get the inkling you ain't gonna be much help around here with your petulant attitude. Don't spread it.

Rev9

 

[Revolution9]

+rep

Good. Yer learning how to be a decent forum member and not one of those others.

Rev9

 

[Revolution9]

I posted this on another thread but I am reposting it here.

Thanks to ALL who have said that as long as Paul stays with it, they will too.

I also want to ASSURE everyone that although things look bleak, YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. I can say this because I've been through it all before.

I was part of a movement during the 1960's and early 1970's that DIDN'T get a single candidate elected as president.

But, we ended a war.

My daughter and granddaughters are better off because of my making my voice heard about equal rights for equal pay. When I was in my twenties there were states where IF a woman married, SHE COULDN'T OWN PROPERTY. It became her husband's the minute she said "I do".

In my lifetime 3 young men were buried in a dam in Philadelphia, MS. I've seen pictures of the bodies that were dug up at a newspaper where I used to work. Those YOUNG MEN DIED so black people could vote.

People, the setback you've suffered today is discouraging and disappointing.

But, I can tell you that what all of YOU are facing and the fight you are fighting for yourselves, your children and your future grandchildren is EVERY BIT AS URGENT as what my generation fought for back in the 1960's and early 1970's.

Today I read that America was at the epitome of success back when I WAS protesting about conditions. Evidently when I thought things weren't GOOD enough, it was the glory days.

YOU are facing the endgame.

Are you just going to let it happen? And not stand behind the man who is spending his "golden years" working like a dog STILL fighting to make a differenc

AS I SAID...THREE YOUNG MEN IN MISSIPPI DIED...they ended up buried in mud under a dam on a farm because they wanted a better world for future generations.

They didn't win that round. But, today, life in Mississippi is a lot better for people of every color because of them. Nobody is asking anyone to die or do anything illegal or destructive. Just to make phone calls and talk to people about a message that you should be PROUD to promote.

People CAN make a difference if they DON'T GIVE UP. But, it doesn't always go smoothly.

Like Dr. Paul, I am STILL going and calling and am a delegate. I "could be" enjoying my retirement time. I will be fine no matter WHAT happens. I am working for you young people. And my children and grandchildren. And YOUR children and grandchildren.

Again, changing people's way of thinking might SEEM impossible. BUT, it can be done. I've witnessed it. I've been a part of it. And my generation was a scattered bunch with dozens of causes that wasn't especially cohesive. But, without cell phones OR the internet, we ended a war, fought for and achieved equality for women and desegregated the south.

People during my lifetime died to get MORE freedom. Yet within the four years freedoms that were taken for GRANTED when I was born HAVE BEEN given UP WITHOUT A PEEP.

I am so shocked by these developments I do not know what to say. Despite having experienced and seen a LOT over my lifetime, I am truly frightened by what might be ahead. Don't let ANYONE tell you these are NOT scary times.

Thank you. I am 54 and I have seen what an idea can do over my lifetime too. A good idea is worth defending with your life, honor and wealth if it means the lives of many can prosper via your sacrifice.

Rev9

 

[Gray Fullbuster]

Boy oh boy.. Yer just full of yerself. TYou get no special privileges here and the reason you probably are seeing me whip up on a bunch of trollers is because they have been infesting this board for the last four or five days and it has been killing others support. You waltz in and add to it and then expect special treatment when you are just as guilty as you state with your "breeding optimism" comment. Nah. You would rather breed pessimism. My job is to shut your type down so the rest of us can get on with grassroots activities without the continual squelch and FUD gambits and whining. Trust me.. If I wasn't doing this with a few others good at potshotting this board would be overrun with trolls from other campaigns and opposing media personality fanbois running riot here pretending to be RP supporters and killing the GR with every thread they post in. . It ain't hate pal. It is called smacking disrespect right in the choppers. I go after the comment and thought..not the poster, though it is often the case that the same avatars keep up the same gambits over and over.

I get the inkling you ain't gonna be much help around here with your petulant attitude. Don't spread it.

Rev9

I don't have any special privileges, never claimed I did. Just suggested you should abide by the stickies message which is to be kind to new members. Suggestion does not imply special rights or coercion. I can't coerce you to do anything actually, not in that position.

and trolls haven't been killing my support, I actually DID sign up 4-5 days ago and so far the only thing killing me and turning me off from grassroots activities is you aha.

It's now always a persons CHOICE on how they view situations, a lot of people are overcome with chemical inbalances in the brain that affect them, for ex: depression. You're just attacking me for being realistic. And the fact that you demand respect from people by claiming to "smack disrespect in their choppers" implies you have special privileges.

I got the inkling you're not much of a help around her with your petulant attitude. Don't spread it.

 

[Firehouse26]

Except it never started. We can't even win Maine...it's over.

BRB Delegates. lol let's be serious, we lost. I wish you guys luck in further campaigning and money bombs, which will forever be small because no one thinks this campaign can even effectively use the money donated.

Well RP has been at this for 30 years, and I doubt he could even get many to hear him out back then, let alone dream of making a respectable bid for the White House. So please, if you're a quitter, keep it to yourself and not the boards. Negativity is cancerous. Buck up or sign off for good.

 

[Firehouse26]

Tonight is the first night I feel true disappointment because I did let myself get a little excited...only because I thought we actually had a chance and it was safe to be a little hyped at least.

Shit man who wants to pool funds, buy an island, and start our own country? I have a really nice $80 coconut splitter that I'm willing to share

Our "island" is this damn country, and by God we're going to take it back!

 

[Unknown.User]

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[seawolf]

The No One But Paul Money Bomb will tell the strength of the Campaign and the RP Grassroots.

It really is up to us.....we are all disappointed and pissed off.....we can fight on or go away into the night.

If you want to fight for Liberty then YOU MUST DONATE on Tuesday. The No One But Paul total donations will tell the tail.

Ron Paul desperately needs money. The Campaign is very low on cash. $3 Million is the Goal. What say you!!

 

[PineGroveDave]

The No One But Paul Money Bomb will tell the strength of the Campaign and the RP Grassroots.

It really is up to us.....we are all disappointed and pissed off.....we can fight on or go away into the night...
What say you!!

I will continue to contribute and spread the word.

 

[jolynna]

I will continue to contribute and spread the word.

Me too.

Telling me I have to accept things the way they are makes me all the more determined NOT TO.

 

[Paul4Prez]

There is a sense of fatalism around these boards that comes up after each caucus/primary, and it follows bad logic:
1. media hates rp
2. to get around that you have to campaign
3. it doesn't matter because the media hates rp and voters are dumb
4. it's 'hopeless' because there's a conspiracy and it's all rigged etc
5. if only the american public understood the truth
6. back to point 1.

1. The media types don't hate Ron Paul, they just underestimate him. (Okay, Fox probably does actually hate him.)
2. Every candidate has to campaign. (Except Santorum, apparently, whom large blocs of voters just decide to back on a whim.)
3. Voters aren't dumb, just apathetic.
4. There are lots of conspiracies, but the primaries could be swamped by a small percentage of the population.
5. If only all the Ron Paul supporters registered and voted in the primaries.
6. This ain't over.

 

[Cyberbrain]

I will continue to contribute and spread the word.

Same here. I really needed the boost after SC and FL

Two strong seconds in MN and ME with two different winners tells me it's GAME ON. Time to donate.

 

[jolynna]

I think voters ARE uninformed. I don't think they are dumb.

Talk to people. They all think the economy is recovering. Because that is what the media has been saying. As has Obama.

People don't have a clue that the MOST dangerous threat to the U.S. is an economy that is gasping for air. Until today, we've had a bit of a stock rally. Every day there is an announcement that Greece and the Eurozone crisis are cured (for the millionth time).

Voters aren't questioning WHY interest rates can't go up until 2014 and that if we print more money this spring or early summer, that means more debt which is bad, and that IF the S & P is threatening to downgrade our rating again, ummmm....things might not be as great as the news reports and Obama say they are.

Unless you read BORING and almost impossible to understand (especially when you begin reading them) financial sites you wouldn't KNOW that the "Too Big to Fails" and Europe are powder kegs that have been lit.

The media is doing a wonderful job of keeping the public ignorant.

They are not giving them the information they need to rationally protect their their homes, families and finances. How in the world can voters rationally choose a leader when the MOST EXTENSIVE MEDIA coverage is given to who slept with whom 20 years ago? Voters give relevance to whatever the media deems important. So who slept with whom and who is called kooky and who isn't are pretty MUCH ALL voters know about any of the candidates.

My most useful "converting tool" is reprints of articles from the Telegraph or Guardian which give daily Financial Crisis updates. Back those up with articles from Reuters or The Financial Times (Zerohedge links to articles from those all the time...don't start new people straight off with zerohedge or prison planet, there is plenty from Forbes and Reuters to get people to realize the U.S. financial situation is precarious.)

I do not start conversation always with Ron Paul material. I use financial information to illustrate that things are bad...which when can later be followed up with Ron Paul's classic 2002 prediction video which beautifully illustrates than Ron Paul GOT IT. When Ben Bernanke and NONE of our financial "experts" DID.

It is easy to interject financial articles into conversations because people LOVE to hear about how bad things are as long as you are not attacking their candidate. They won't doubt that Obama is hiding stuff from them. But, by establishing that OUR media...even Fox lies and doesn't tell them everything, you plant seeds of doubt. Seeing Ron Paul "get it" on video brings even the most grudging to admiring Ron Paul for being a visionary who wasn't afraid to say what he saw coming. Tying Romney in with the banks should only come AFTER you've illustrated that the banks are crooked, bankrupt and will be in need of bailouts...AGAIN. (Clearly showing WHY they will soon be in need of somebody from their banker camp.)

Anyway, I think the most frustrating thing about introducing Ron Paul and turning people on to him is that people start out not having a clue about what is going on in the world. You've got to get past that, before they want to read more and learn about WHY what Obama and the other candidates suggest doing will NOT resolve our country's problems.

People, especially older ones that grew up believing that the "news" is like family you see every day, tend to put more stock in those traditionally trusted sources instead of somebody with a pamphlet. They've to to have a reason to research further. There is lots available online from the Telegraph or Guardian to make them have questions and want to know more.

 

[harikaried]

Now imagine if he was in line to receieve the nomination w/o winning a single state. Can you even fathom the shit storm that would be unleashed on us then?

There's been a lot of articles in the last couple days about Jeb Bush getting the nomination if there's a brokered convention. The pundits seem quite happy talking about that. See any states Jeb Bush can win?

 

[row333au]

It's now up to the people and don't believe those who kept saying you shouldn't protest or rally about 'VOTING FRAUDS', including case action against the GOP and the to attorney general for not doing their jobs, and in boycott the media and their advertisements and send the advertising product millions of repeated emails to boycott (it worked with media blackout threat to boycott).....their reason is: as it will jeopardize Ron Paul's chances of winning (its already past worst than that)....since at this juncture the way the whole situation is that they are getting away with it (as they are already counting of all of you people to just cower down to their manipulation and telling all of you "you are powerless to our GOP", and in the end they just cast aside the American people's power over their crony corrupt government that sees all of the public as big 'NOTHING' of numbers statistics and cattle (purpose and throwaway) who will keep electing them stupidly. Remember the political party is not the people or the government, BUT YOU ARE, AS ALL OF US ARE, THE GOVERNMENT...