Hypothetically, how far can a person go?

[mconder]

Hypothetically, how far can we all go without being arrested? I believe the founders would see us as a bunch of pussies to be putting up with these Marxists running our country into the ground. Does anyone else think we are not doing enough? What are we going to risk to bring these people to justice?

 

[Kludge]

Justice is nice, but not worth my life.

 

[nate895]

Secede first, then they will be the ones who use force to suppress us.

 

[Austin]

Justice is nice, but not worth my life.

What is worth your life?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Hypothetically, how far can we all go without being arrested? I believe the founders would see us as a bunch of pussies to be putting up with these Marxists running our country into the ground. Does anyone else think we are not doing enough? What are we going to risk to bring these people to justice?

What do you hope to do? You're outgunned and outnumbered. (this is why I advocate private ownership of heavy arms and nukes, btw.)

 

[mediahasyou]

Peace

This pull only gives two options. In reality there are more.

We must not accept the current government peaceably and coexist. There is your freedom. Acknowledge it and you are free. http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/073.php

 

[mconder]

What do you hope to do? You're outgunned and outnumbered.

I don't know what I expected to accomplish by this post. I really fell as though everything is closing in around me. I will likely loose my job this next year and it will be very difficult to find employment in my field due to current market conditions and outsourcing. My family, wife and four children have a very tenuous future and it's because of these rat bastards in Washington. They need to pay for their crimes! I am tired of accepting what the founders would have been outraged over. The founders would think us a bunch of pussies if they could only see what we put up with from our Government.

 

[mconder]

We must not accept the current government peaceably and coexist. There is your freedom. Acknowledge it and you are free.

They are not going to let us peacefully withdraw from their influence. There is no way you can escape what they are putting in place around us. Economic life as we have known it in America is coming to an end very soon. It is only when we are completely impoverished that we will truely see the level of control these people have over us.

 

[MsDoodahs]

I don't know what I expected to accomplish by this post. I really fell as though everything is closing in around me. I will likely loose my job this next year and it will be very difficult to find employment in my field due to current market conditions and outsourcing. My family, wife and four children have a very tenuous future and it's because of these rat bastards in Washington. They need to pay for their crimes! I am tired of accepting what the founders would have been outraged over. The founders would think us a bunch of pussies if they could only see what we put up with from our Government.

You feel that it is closing in tighter and tighter because it IS closing in tighter and tighter.

The founders would be ASHAMED of what we are putting up with - Ron Paul in Iowa.

He's right.

They would be.

 

[MsDoodahs]

There is no way you can escape what they are putting in place around us.

You mean *the one* has effectively closed our southern border?



(Joke, trying to lighten the mood.)

 

[M House]

Naw you can just walk around that. It's like our own attempt at the Great Wall of China.

 

[Zolah]

They have the Fabian society because they realised violent revolution won't be successful, I don't think we can rely on violent revolution ourselves to topple the Fabian socialists.

 

[cablesalt]

Justice is nice, but not worth my life.

What is then?

 

[Original_Intent]

I don't know what I expected to accomplish by this post. I really fell as though everything is closing in around me. I will likely loose my job this next year and it will be very difficult to find employment in my field due to current market conditions and outsourcing. My family, wife and four children have a very tenuous future and it's because of these rat bastards in Washington. They need to pay for their crimes! I am tired of accepting what the founders would have been outraged over. The founders would think us a bunch of pussies if they could only see what we put up with from our Government.

I tend to agree with you, fellow Utahn, but I am not going to throw my life away. If a state seceded and US Fed tried to force them back into the country ala the War of Northern Aggression, I would be there. Maybe it is cowardice, I am not willing to go all Timothy McVeigh on FedGov just because things are going to hell in a handbasket.

As things get worse, more people will wake up and I think we have to be there with REAL answers to counter the BS propaganda. I have people that thought I was a nutcase a year ago that now pay pretty close attention to what I say.

There is still hope I think. It may come to bloodshed. I think the more people we get awake the better chance we have to win without a fight, and of course the better chance we have if it comes to a fight.

I completely hear your concerns and frustrations with the status quo.

 

[nate895]

Why is everyone ignoring the obvious: force their hand?

Why must we be the ones who start a revolution? Why can't we attempt, in good faith, to leave peacefully? If they attempt to stop us, we can then put up one hell of fight.

 

[mediahasyou]

They are not going to let us peacefully withdraw from their influence. There is no way you can escape what they are putting in place around us. Economic life as we have known it in America is coming to an end very soon. It is only when we are completely impoverished that we will truely see the level of control these people have over us.

Try it.

Remove yourself from the government.
Stop paying taxes.
Stop voting.
Stop using anything of the government.
Peacefully exist without the laws of the state applying.

Acknowledge yourself as a person, not a subject.
Free your mind.

 

[Original_Intent]

They have the Fabian society because they realised violent revolution won't be successful, I don't think we can rely on violent revolution ourselves to topple the Fabian socialists.

Yep revolutions have a history of being used and then discarded and the new people who take power are worse than the leaders you ousted.

 

[malkusm]

Justice is nice, but not worth my life.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
-Samuel Adams

(stolen from Aravoth's sig)

 

[mconder]

You feel that it is closing in tighter and tighter because it IS closing in tighter and tighter.

My wife and I are on high alert. We are storing food and ammo like crazy. I am not going to be in the f'ing bread lines while they take my guns.

 

[Kludge]

What is worth your life?

What is then?

My soul (integrity). Everything else is worthless, as far as I'm concerned.

Everything is a privilege in life.