(Hypothetical) If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination in 2012, who should be his VP

[White Knight]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

He supports a national handgun ban. For that, I couldn't support him. He does understand the Shadow Government and New World Order though.

 

[psi2941]

My pick
P: Ron Paul
VP: any one without a neo con view is fine. but prefer Rand Paul because incase Ron Paul dies(he is getting old).
Secretary of Defense: Dennis Kucinich
FED: Peter Schiff (this slot first)
IRS: Irwin Schiff (he would get a pardon from Ron Paul)
Secretary of treasury: Peter Schiff (but if he can't get the FED position)
Attorney General: Napolitano (He be bumped to supreme court as soon as there is an opening)

 

[devil21]

Should we really be discussing this right now? I remember this same thread years ago and friggin Sarah Palin was the "choice". Give me a break.

 

[RyanRSheets]

Nobody even mentioned Thomas Woods?

 

[Krugerrand]

Easy choice ... John Mackey. (CEO of Whole Foods)

Executive experience where it counts ... in the real world.
A convert to Austrian Economics from socialism.

 

[Elwar]

Kucinich. And please spare me the "but he's a big government socialist" shit.

Ok...he's not a socialist.


He's a communist.

According to World Socialist Website:
"Take Kucinich first. As mayor of Cleveland...., he represented one of the most ;left; elements in the Democratic Party during the heyday of the radical protest movement. He was closely allied with the Stalinists of the CPUSA (Communist Party USA), who still had significant influence in the working class of Cleveland, particularly in such unions as the UE and UAW."

 

[nandnor]

nvm

 

[Captain Shays]

I like Walter Williams to help dissipate some of the racist accusations about Ron Paul in the last election and of course because he's a hard core Constitutionalist.

Gary Johnson is way to divisive with all kinds of baggage.

We must also consider Ron Paul's attempt to change the Republican Party from within and bring the more libertarian Republicans into the mix so believe it or not, I like Jim Demint for that reason. He gives Republican creds to Ron and the Republican Party couldn't continue to label him as a ""libertarian" as if he's not a member of the Republican Party for the past 20 years.

If you guys want to certainly lose the election then go ahead and pick Jesse Ventura.

Pat Buchanan would be a great choice for policy, Republican creds, small govt etc but it would raise the hairy eyeball again about racism even though we all know neither of them are racists and both have been given a bumb rap on that issue. We just can't go there if we're serious about actually winning the election in the event that RP gets to the level of a nomination or close to it.

Sarah Palin was tainted by neocons as soon as she said yes to McCain but back in 08 she may have been a good choice for RP had he been nominated.


I have said this before and will say it again and again and again.


I think that as soon as RP makes the decision to run for president, he should pick his VP, his AG his SC choice and all his other cabinet members and then they can ALL run. ALL of them will be out on the campaign trail spreading the message while campaigning.

They wouldn't be campaigning for Ron Paul and neither would Ron Paul but they and we would be campaigning for a return to Constitutional principles, non-interventionist foreign policy and sound money. By announcing his choices even before he gets the nomination it takes the heat off of him alone and forces the mainstream media and those he is running against to come to terms with those values. The values I am talking about are the same between ALL of us and his picks. There are no lies so we wouldn't have to worry about what is being said simply because they are honest, steady, consistent values and policies and the only way we would have to worry is when someone gets off message by lying which is what ALL the other candidates do. They lie about their policies being good for America or Constitutionally sound and they lie about the economy.

BY picking his cabinet members and VP way before he gets the nomination those choices can then gang up on his competition and it wouldn't be Ron Paul against all the other Republicans by himself like it was before. When Rudy and McCain and Romney try to laugh at him they will have five other prominent individuals calling them out on it and will take such a beating that no one will dare to mess with RP again like that.

 

[Juan McCain]

Paul/Palin 2012!

Are you only saying that RP is over 70 chronologically . . . and Parah Sailin' could swoop in . . . like here :

Sarah Palin Disney Trailer - CollegeHumor video

"She just slap shot the U.S. Constitution . . ." "It's just the Bill of Rights, sir."

 

[puppetmaster]

well to be honest....ME

 

[The Patriot]

As I said, it was just a guess. But it looks like I was right.


If Kucinich was president you wouldn't be thinking of the presidency as a dictatorship. I don't think you realize what concerns must be addressed before you start to think in terms of policy, but the way you responded should give you a hint.

Well, one, Chavez isn't a dictator, he was elected. However, that doesn't mean I like the way he would run things. I think you need to readjust your political view if you think Dennis Kucinich would be good for this country. As I said before, he wants a public national bank with the congress controlling interest rates, he believes in cap and trade and the global warming hoax he wants to raise income taxes, he wants to raise inheritance taxes, he is for gun bans, high tariffs, price controls, more public housing, free college education, is for the UN, is for single payer healthcare, and is for making people retired early to collect benefits and "create" 1 million jobs(probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard). He might vote right on foreign policy and certain civil liberty issues, I might prefer him to most democrats but he is still anti liberty and stands against most of the things I believe in as a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

 

[Krugerrand]

Well, one, Chavez isn't a dictator, he was elected. However, that doesn't mean I like the way he would run things. I think you need to readjust your political view if you think Dennis Kucinich would be good for this country. As I said before, he wants a public national bank with the congress controlling interest rates, he believes in cap and trade and the global warming hoax he wants to raise income taxes, he wants to raise inheritance taxes, he is for gun bans, high tariffs, price controls, more public housing, free college education, is for the UN, is for single payer healthcare, and is for making people retired early to collect benefits and "create" 1 million jobs(probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard). He might vote right on foreign policy and certain civil liberty issues, I might prefer him to most democrats but he is still anti liberty and stands against most of the things I believe in as a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

Yes ... but except for that, can you name one negative about him as VP?

 

[Daamien]

President - Ron Paul
Vice President - Rand Paul
Secretary of State - Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary - Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense - Adam Kokesh
Attorney General - Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[Krugerrand]

President Ron Paul
Vice President Rand Paul
Secretary of State Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense Adam Kokesh
Attorney General Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

Let's be positive and assume that Rand and Peter win. We certainly don't want to pull them out of the Senate. They'll be far more effective there.

Grow the movement .... bring in more names. John Mackey - VP.

 

[Juan McCain]

I'll guess you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Your right - so fucking educate me and explain it.

As I said, it was just a guess. But it looks like I was right.

If Kucinich was president you wouldn't be thinking of the presidency as a dictatorship. I don't think you realize what concerns must be addressed before you start to think in terms of policy, but the way you responded should give you a hint.

As Kucinish is a Democrat, I never paid much attention to the little guy or the Dem debates - I don't know very much at all about Kucinish . . .
so you ARE right about that - I don't even know how to spell his name.

But please tell us what we all should realize about about "Dennis the Menace" Kucinish . . .
in that regard we really get nothing.

"Dennis Kucinich has spent his life fighting for the little guy --
and that little guy is Dennis." -- David Martin, the Cleveland Scene

Kucinich "led Cleveland into bankruptcy" as a young (31) mayor, called "Dennis the Menace" by the Cleveland press.

In fact, any suggestion of Kucinish having similar ideals as Ron Paul -
gets Ron Paul called as a LiberaLiterian.

There's is no real national appeal for him, so just forget Kucinish for being any part of a Ron Paul administration in any capacity -
those that suggest that there could be any conceivable connection to Ron Paul are really just trolling at RPF.

Kucinish is a laughable joke that works against Ron Paul's liberty message.

 

[The Patriot]

President - Ron Paul
Vice President - Rand Paul
Secretary of State - Daniel Hannan
Treasury Secretary - Peter Schiff
Secretary of Defense - Adam Kokesh
Attorney General - Judge Andrew Napolitano

Wouldn't that be nice?

Ron Paul-President
Gary Johnson-Vice President
Lew Rockwell-Chief of Staff
Peter Schiff-Treasury Secretary
Michael Scheuer-Secretary of Defense
Why would you want a foreigner to be secretary of state?
Pat Buchanan-Secretary of State
Andrew Napolitano-Attorney General
John Stossel-Press Secretary
Economic Advisor(Chair)-Thomas DiLorenzo
National Security Advisor-Admiral Fallon

 

[Daamien]

Why would you want a foreigner to be secretary of state?

They wouldn't be in the line of succession to the Presidency but would be effective brokers on the international stage. It's not exactly a new phenomenon (see: Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright). Daniel Hannan already works on the international stage as a Member of European Parliament, he speaks three languages, is a strong supporter of national sovereignty, he is an advocate of liberty and limited government, and is a non-interventionist. He was even born in Peru rather than his native England. I think that Daniel Hannan would actually be a great choice under a Ron Paul administration.

Tell me why he would make a bad Secretary of State.

 

[nf7mate]

Chuck Baldwin.

 

[Daamien]

Let's be positive and assume that Rand and Peter win. We certainly don't want to pull them out of the Senate. They'll be far more effective there.

Grow the movement .... bring in more names. John Mackey - VP.

Actually no, they wouldn't necessarily be. Ron's power of the veto as President of the US, Rand's power of tie-breaker in the Senate as Vice President (President of the Senate), and Peter's ability to unilaterally prevent excessive government debt would far exceed anything they could accomplish independently in Congress.

 

[Daamien]

*Double post*