HuckaChuck on Pajamas TV Explaining His Distate for Libertarians

Huckabee is a member of the Republican Party. 99% of the party heads are POLITICIANS. Huckabee is a politician, he is saying what he has to at this point in time. Ron Paul is a STATESMAN. He is unwavering and steadfast in his beliefs and will only change his tune if he is factually incorrect.
 
YOu have a problem with Christians...that's the bottom line. You are haters of Christians. There is not ONE thing that Huckabee said in that interview that was not constitutional. You people just dispise christians. I find you a bunch of closed minded nuts. You need to work on your OWN LITMUS tests as far as religion goes. He was SPOT on ...in everything he said. I wonder about your ability to reason...or if you just automatically shut down his words because you know he is a Christian minister. Foolish people. Tones

I dislike people who abuse a title by claiming affiliation with a philosophy they cannot seem to grasp. Look into Huck's background and you will find he isn't quite the saint or honest person you would like for us to believe he is, or maybe you are aware of this but think someone should say "I am Christian" and they should get a pass?

Christian discernment would do you well.

Acts 20:30Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them

Romans 16:18For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people

2 Peter 2:2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they
have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

"With them indeed is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which says: 'You shall indeed hear but never understand, and you shall indeed see but never perceive. For this people's heart has grown dull, and their ears are heavy of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should perceive with their eyes and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and turn to me to heal them.' But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears, for they hear." (Matthew 13: 14-16)
 
Rangley..he said nothing of the kind. please go listen again.
Are you trying to claim Mike Huckabee does not want to legislate his morality on issues such as drugs, and marriage, onto others? That he wants to leave that as an issue of personal responsibility and self government?
I started talking about a moral society...and moral politicians when I heard this speech. I believe this to be true..please watch it..and listen to the words of this gentleman. He absolutely says there must be individual responsibility, moral society and moral politicans. he also referred to the founders that shared this philosophy. I want to see if you agree with this fellow? He talks about a moral society around 9:55. Id' like to hear your thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa8LwPWYGDc
I think there should be a moral society, too. That's why I want the government out of it.
You may be right ...but huckabee is talking the talk..
It's not talking the talk to say we need to rely on the government to tell us what is moral and what is not.
 
I agree..Ron Paul is one of a kind. If he rubs off on some of these other guys...all the better. If huckabee is taking up the torch and republicans listen to him...fine and dandy. Whatever it takes to pull the people back to sanity. tones
 
Rangeley..did you watch either of those videos? huckabee emphatically said he was NOT for the government legislating morality. if you watch those two videos...you might see a connection with two men. tones
 
Sean Hannity always talks about how conservatives are for small government and personal responsibility, he sucks in the conservatives to the point that they believe that he believes in his rhetoric. Then when he disses Ron Paul at a critical point in the campaign, those that had been listening to Hannity for so long thinking he was for small government will follow his lead and attack Ron Paul because they don't know any better.

A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf, and to encourage him to wear sheeps clothing because having the appearance of more sheep is somehow better is a horrible outlook on things.
 
YOu have a problem with Christians...that's the bottom line. You are haters of Christians. There is not ONE thing that Huckabee said in that interview that was not constitutional. You people just dispise christians. I find you a bunch of closed minded nuts. You need to work on your OWN LITMUS tests as far as religion goes. He was SPOT on ...in everything he said. I wonder about your ability to reason...or if you just automatically shut down his words because you know he is a Christian minister. Foolish people. Tones

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No need to be a shithead because other's don't support a guy that works to get murdering rapists out of Jail in his spare time. Yeah I know, he's a forgiving religious person, who can blame him for "talking the talk" right? Problem is, psychopaths don't give a shit about your fucking charity. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/14/huckabee_could_face_hurdles_from_the_past/

Here's to you Mike.....
 
Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee

http://soldierservant.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/christians-need-to-beware-of-mike-huckabee/

President and Founder of Eagle Forum, Phyllis Schlafly, said this
about Governor Huckabee: “He destroyed the conservative movement in
Arkansas, and left the Republican Party a shambles.
” She went on to
say, “Yet some of the same evangelicals who sold us on George W. Bush
as a ‘compassionate conservative’ are now trying to sell us on Mike
Huckabee.”

Even one of Huckabee’s strongest supporters within the Religious
Right, Pastor Rick Scarborough, head of Vision America, admitted,
“Mike has always sought the validation of elites.” Of course, my
question for Rick Scarborough is, With an indictment such as that, how
can you continue to support Mike Huckabee?

According to an opinion piece written by John Fund in the Wall Street
Journal, “Paul Pressler, a former Texas judge who led the conservative
Southern Baptist revolt, told me, ‘I know of no conservative he
[Huckabee] appointed while he headed the Arkansas Baptist
Convention.’”

Fund went on to say that “Mr. Huckabee’s reluctance to surround
himself with conservatives was evident as governor, when he kept many
agency heads appointed by Bill Clinton.”

Fund also said this about Huckabee: “‘He’s just like Bill Clinton in
that he practices management by news cycle,’ a former top Huckabee
aide told me. ‘As with Clinton there was no long-term planning, just
putting out fires on a daily basis. One thing I’ll guarantee is that
won’t lead to competent conservative governance.’”

Mike Huckabee is also terrible on immigration. According to Jim
Boulet, Jr., executive director of English First
, “Rudy Giuliani spent
years defending the right of New York City to remain a sanctuary for
illegal aliens. Yet Giuliani was a veritable Lou Dobbs Jr. on illegal
immigration in comparison to Mike Huckabee.”

Regarding Huckabee’s stance on immigration, Mr. Minton said, “Until of
late, he has been an open-borders guy on immigration–amnesty, the
whole works. As governor, he wanted to give free college scholarships
to all illegals.


Minton’s assertion is backed up by Daniel Larison at The American
Conservative. He said, “Like his fellow presidential candidate [who
recently dropped out of the race], Sen. Sam Brownback, Huckabee
regards it as his Christian duty to help subvert and liberalize U.S.
immigration laws. Together, they embrace the notion that fidelity to
the Gospel requires privileging the interests of non-citizens over
those of fellow citizens.”

Ann Coulter agrees: “On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George
Bush sound like Rep. Tom Tancredo
(R-CO). Huckabee has compared
illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying,
‘I think, frankly, the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better
than we did before.’

“Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that
would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits,
Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up ‘those who are
racist and bigots.’


“He also made the insane point that companies such as Toyota would not
invest in Arkansas if the state didn’t allow non-citizens to vote,
because it would ’send the message that, essentially, “If you don’t
look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don’t want you.”‘

“Like all the (other) Democratic candidates for President, he supports
a federal law to ban smoking–unless you’re an illegal alien smoking
at a Toyota plant.”

A former state lawmaker, Minton also said, that Huckabee was not a
“fiscally conservative Republican.” Rather, Huckabee was regarded as
just another liberal “tax and spender” in fiscal matters.
This is in
direct opposition to Huckabee’s boast of “90 tax cuts during his
tenure.” And the facts seem to validate Minton, not Huckabee.

An Arkansas Department of Finance and Administration report showed a
“net tax increase of $505 million, a figure adjusted for inflation and
economic growth” on Huckabee’s watch.

That Huckabee is a liberal “tax and spender” is also affirmed by Tom
Roeser. According to Roeser, “[Huckabee] hiked state spending 65.3%,
from 1996 to 2004. He supported five tax increases, leading the ‘Club
for Growth’ to call him a liberal in disguise . . .


Roeser also points out that “The Cato Institute, a libertarian think
tank with heavy ties to the national GOP, gives him an F grade for
spending and taxes in 2006 and an overall grade of D in his
governorship. During his tenure, the number of state employees
increased over 20% and Arkansas’ general obligation debt rose by
almost $1 billion.”

Furthermore, according to the Washington Times, “Until recently, he
[Huckabee] had refused to sign the famous no-tax pledge offered to
candidates by Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.”

In spite of Huckabee’s proven big-government, big-spending, and
pro-amnesty record, however, some Christian conservatives are falling
for his conservative rhetoric. It seems that all a Republican
candidate has to do is start talking “pro-life” and “pro-marriage” and
he or she will gain the support of certain Christian conservatives.


First it was Bob Jones, III endorsing the liberal former governor of
Massachusetts, Mitt Romney, and now it is Janet Folger endorsing the
liberal former governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee. Why any Christian
leader would want to support a man with such a dubious record truly
escapes me.

Christians need to beware of Mike Huckabee. He is not a conservative.
Even worse, he is not a constitutionalist. He is an opportunist,
however.
This is demonstrated by the fact that many of his supporters
are openly posturing (with Huckabee’s consent, obviously) for an
opportunity to run Huckabee as a potential Vice Presidential candidate
with either Giuliani or Romney at the top of the ticket.

Let me ask the reader something. How could a principled pro-life,
pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution conservative be willing to run
on a ticket with a liberal presidential candidate such as Rudy
Giuliani or Mitt Romney? That’s right, he couldn’t.

I say again, beware of Mike Huckabee!
 
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i dislike people who abuse a title by claiming affiliation with a philosophy they cannot seem to grasp. Look into huck's background and you will find he isn't quite the saint or honest person you would like for us to believe he is, or maybe you are aware of this but think someone should say "i am christian" and they should get a pass?

Christian discernment would do you well.

Acts 20:30even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them

romans 16:18for such people are not serving our lord christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people

2 peter 2:2many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3in their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they
have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

"with them indeed is fulfilled the prophecy of isaiah which says: 'you shall indeed hear but never understand, and you shall indeed see but never perceive. For this people's heart has grown dull, and their ears are heavy of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should perceive with their eyes and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and turn to me to heal them.' but blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears, for they hear." (matthew 13: 14-16)

+ 70 x 7...!
 
Ron Paul said in his speech..Rally for the Republic...that limited government depends on a MORAL SOCIETY and MORAL POLITICANS..that is when I started on the moral society business...if you don't believe me...go watch him say it HIMSELF. He also said INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY and huckabee said the same damn thing. sigh...you don't even listen to your own LEADER but I DO. tones (I posted the link above of Ron Paul saying exactly that..9:55..go get some truth)
 
I have given up on foreign policy because it is clearly controlled by the bankers and corporations. i am focusing on domestic issues, like the IRS and returning to the constitution, less taxes...

....and how do you propose to do that without cutting our overseas military spending??

Ron Paul has said over and over and over and over and over and over again that it is our foreign policy spending that is destroying our country..Not to mention, as a Christian, you should have a much more difficult time justifying allowing your tax dollars to go towards killing innocent people than going out to helping poor people in our own country. That is the LAST thing Ron Paul wants to cut, is help to poor people who have become dependent.. The FIRST thing he wants to cut is military spending. Your priorities are completely opposite of Ron Paul..so get 'em straight and dump that Palin character.

That's why Ron Paul attracted so many people from across the aisle, because people feel they have a moral obligation to stop their tax dollars from killing innocent people. As a Christian, do you not feel you have that moral obligation? Because I know plenty of non-Christians socialists who do.. and they actually have their priorities more in line with Ron Paul than you do, at this point.
 
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Rangeley..did you watch either of those videos? huckabee emphatically said he was NOT for the government legislating morality. if you watch those two videos...you might see a connection with two men. tones

hey tones... once again..


mike huckabee may speak of not legislating morality..

but he was adamantly pushing a constitutional amendment to define marriage, and hes a drug warrior.

!??!!?

get it through your head.. he is NO ally! I dont give a shit what he says, I see what he has done and still does.

"you will know them by their fruits"
 
I agree..Ron Paul is one of a kind. If he rubs off on some of these other guys...all the better. If huckabee is taking up the torch and republicans listen to him...fine and dandy. Whatever it takes to pull the people back to sanity. tones

He isn't taking up the torch. He is trying to dupe the unsuspecting into believing he is something he is not because he knows that ron paul has maintained a following of people. He was pretty smooth at picking up the talking points but has no grasp of the subject matter. Even a cursory view of the few quotes posted indicate such.

You explain how you can say you believe the best government is self-government then advocate for programs to protect people from usage of a drug for medical purposes because some people have abused its usage. He has no grasp of what he is saying or is lying to dupe people that hear him speak a few lines without realizing his platform he ran on does not validate his statement of self-government.
 
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is." -- Ronald Reagan
 
Rangeley..did you watch either of those videos? huckabee emphatically said he was NOT for the government legislating morality. if you watch those two videos...you might see a connection with two men. tones
Yes, I did. Here is what Huckabee said in response to his first question (I transcribed it myself)

There is a growing... branch... or whatever in the Republican Party... who don't want to hear anything about, let's say, the traditional values issues, who say those are not important, we shouldn't be talking about those, we only want to talk about cutting taxes and reducing government, but the truth is we cant cut taxes and reduce government without also understanding that a lot of the costs of government are directly related to the breakdown of the family and individual responsibility. So if we just say that we are going to arbitrarilly cut things, how many police do we take off the streets, how many people do we let out of prison beds. The point is, if we focus on both the cutting of taxes, the fiscal issues, as well as personal responsibility, families growing up, building kids of character, than you dont have as many people that you have to put in jail, you dont have as many drug and alcohol counselors, and so my point about the faux cons is that I think there is a real need to realize that these are not incompatible goals. Frankly, most values conservatives I know are also fiscal conservatives. But there are some who are strictly economic conservatives, who are social liberals, who believe in legalized drugs, who don't want to talk about anything such as the sanctity of life, or traditional marriage, that's where I think the discussion has to happen.
There it is, point blank. Huckabee takes issue with people who want to increase personal freedom, and instead desires to legislate his personal morality - his personal opposition to drugs and homosexuality - onto everyone.

Ron Paul does not agree with this idea. While he thinks people should be moral, and that trustworthy people need to be in government, he does not think that the government should attempt and make people trustworthy and moral.
 
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