Huckabee Resets Goal

[coffeewithchess]

HMM correct me if I am wrong....

5 million boost - feb 5

8.4 million goal for quarter one, right?

Wrong, 8.4 million by February 5th.

 

[coffeewithchess]

as a shareholder of this campaign I want an explanation. Ron Paul places personal responsibility at the core of his philosophy. And that's the reason I'm here. Now I want them to explain why we spent nearly double than McCain. And Heads to roll at the management level if deemed necessary. this number of 17 million certainly hurts. Some good action/speech needs to be taken by the campaign manager.

The fact that HEADS did not roll at HQ after Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina let me believe there was a strategy and perhaps, POSSIBLY the campaign did future media buys...the fact is that I have now seen both Huckabee and McCain national ads on my television set...I have not seen ONE national Paul ad. If the campaign spent $17 million in the 4th quarter and they don't have FUTURE media buys, somebody should have been FIRED.

 

[Mordan]

wanna add this:
I'm not against spending 17 millions: but be accountable and do some damage countrol!!! bloody hell. They should explain where the money went if they want more. it is as simple as that.
we RP supporters are smart. What is HQ thinking? McCain 10 millions, Huck 5, Ron Paul 17... ????? we ask legitimate questions.
now when I learn they spent 4 millions on millions upon millions of mailings. FINE. But tell us so we are not left in the wild wondering where the hell the money went. Imagination runs wild and the dirty word of corruption comes to my mind quickly. I mean 20 millions make some heads dizzy. And please I wanna know about those wierd TV ads production costs.

 

[tpreitzel]

The problem is that many supporters aren't giving now because they don't see where $17 million went in the 4th quarter and they don't see any strategy from HQ.

Pure speculation...
However, some anecdotal evidence exists that the campaign management has made mistakes, but to extrapolate those mistakes into the rationale that "many supporters aren't giving now" because of those mistakes is a stretch to say the least.

 

[LukeNM]

The problem is that many supporters aren't giving now because they don't see where $17 million went in the 4th quarter and they don't see any strategy from HQ.

Speak for yourself. I trust Ron Paul...

 

[coffeewithchess]

Speak for yourself. I trust Ron Paul...

RP is only human...the fact is that RP trusts his HQ...I don't trust his HQ because I've been there and volunteered and seen it in action.

 

[Sey.Naci]

People who know how much it costs to run a political campaign and how advertising scheduling works will have no problem with how the money is being spent.

And RP's campaign reports NO DEBT to boot. Fantastic.

 

[VinceLiberty]

HMM correct me if I am wrong....

5 million boost - feb 5

8.4 million goal for quarter one, right?

No, it's $8.4 Million is by Feb 5 - when it was announced last week, the fundraising was at $3.4M, so 8.4 is the $5M boost from that time...

It's been a very strong fundraising week - numerous days well in excess of $100k, and far and away stronger than the demoralizing weeks mid-January. But not the pace that's needed, unfortunately.

 

[Mordan]

RP is only human...the fact is that RP trusts his HQ...I don't trust his HQ because I've been there and volunteered and seen it in action.

I trust Ron Paul too! His honesty is what makes me love the guy.

have you met Kent Snyder?

Can anybody volunteer?

 

[Feelgood]

I did go through 7 pages of the FEC report the night it came out, but I stopped after 7 pages. What is there strategy? I don't see it. I'm still not sure where $17 million was spent.

How many times does this question need to be answered before you people either read it, or understand it?

Posting this from memory, so bear with me. RP spent about $17.5 million in ads he ordered in key super Tuesday states. Ordering ahead, he got a bit of a discount. The campaign needs, in order to compete, $23 million for this quarter. To reach this goal, and be able to continue, they set a goal of $8.4 million to reach by Feb 5th.

Break that down, if they can do that, then they are on course to get the $23 million they need for the quarter. At this time, we are far short.

I'm sorry so many of you seem to need some sort of instant gratification to realize what's going on, but that simply is not the way it works. He has gone slow and patiently, allowing the others to spend their money beating the hell out of each other. As a result, they are going broke, heavily in debt, against the ropes and sinking fast.

If you dont seem to understand the concept of RP's strategy (for me it is crystal clear) then I would suggest you click the following link, and read this article over and over again, until the concept becomes a part of your reality as well...

>>>Ron Paul's Top Secret Strategy<<<

 

[mdevour]

We're fighting the world, here!

IF, and I emphasize IF, fundraising is reduced due to some sort of attitude shift on the part of Paul's supporters, it's because the movement has had its first taste of reality and people are demoralized by the results of the early primaries.

I've seen it before in other "underdog" campaigns. Expectations inevitably creep higher than realism supports and the actual results cause disillusionment.

In my opinion, whatever flaws there are in campaign strategy or execution, few of those out here complaining truly appreciate what we're up against. The perfect campaign would still not win this easily, if at all.

Do you think the other candidates' campaigns are that much better? Have worse campaigns than Paul's achieved better results? The overwhelming difference? Media favoritism, party support, special interests... none of which are significant contributors to Dr. Paul's success.

I only hope that our lack of vision hasn't succeeded in strangling the campaign at the crucial moment when they needed our money to execute their Super Tuesday strategy. Then, when Super Tuesday falls short of the critics' expectation, there'll be another round of stuff to blame on the campaign.

I don't dispute that there may be serious weaknesses in the campaign staff, strategy, or execution. I dispute the contention that that makes more than a marginal difference in the results we're seeing.

That's my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

For Liberty!

Mike D.

 

[NinjaPirate]

The problem is that many supporters aren't giving now because they don't see where $17 million went in the 4th quarter and they don't see any strategy from HQ.

Not entirely true. I can still donate up to ~$1650, but I'm so broke right now. I feel so bad that I can't participate in the MB's.

 

[angelatc]

The problem is that many supporters aren't giving now because they don't see where $17 million went in the 4th quarter and they don't see any strategy from HQ.

I think that people aren't giving now because we haven't seen a victory. Second place doesn't count, and Louisiana isn't official.

I appreciate the Tortoise and Hare analogy, but it's easy for people to lose heart when they're not seeing results.

 

[dawnbt]

How many times does this question need to be answered before you people either read it, or understand it?

Posting this from memory, so bear with me. RP spent about $17.5 million in ads he ordered in key super Tuesday states. Ordering ahead, he got a bit of a discount. The campaign needs, in order to compete, $23 million for this quarter. To reach this goal, and be able to continue, they set a goal of $8.4 million to reach by Feb 5th.

Break that down, if they can do that, then they are on course to get the $23 million they need for the quarter. At this time, we are far short.

I'm sorry so many of you seem to need some sort of instant gratification to realize what's going on, but that simply is not the way it works. He has gone slow and patiently, allowing the others to spend their money beating the hell out of each other. As a result, they are going broke, heavily in debt, against the ropes and sinking fast.

If you dont seem to understand the concept of RP's strategy (for me it is crystal clear) then I would suggest you click the following link, and read this article over and over again, until the concept becomes a part of your reality as well...

>>>Ron Paul's Top Secret Strategy<<<

We have a winner!!!

 

[Bubba]

Show me the money

Why do people always think they know what is going on in the official campaign. "coffee" just because your family maxed out says NOTHING for the nation so yes SPECULATION like crazy on that one.

And to say as a general statement that ALL ron paul supporters are wanting to know where the money was or they wont donate? who are you lol, do you talk with ron paul about these issues or just yourself??

stay on point and if you research you will see where that money was allocated for and to.

There are numerous threads proclaiming mass radio and television ad campaigns that are raging all over the country for Super Tuesday's next round of election vote fraud. That kind of press ain't cheap.

Yes. Stay focused and looking forward. This isn't over by a long shot.

 

[Bubba]

as a shareholder of this campaign I want an explanation. Ron Paul places personal responsibility at the core of his philosophy. And that's the reason I'm here. Now I want them to explain why we spent nearly double than McCain. And Heads to roll at the management level if deemed necessary. this number of 17 million certainly hurts. Some good action/speech needs to be taken by the campaign manager.

If the ptb and media spin doctors were posting the true tally numbers from the caucuses and primaries, nobody would be talking this way.

 

[Meiun]

First of all, I'm not maxed out, I'm broke! The government owns 35% of my paycheck and I'm struggling to keep my family afloat. I give when I can, with pain if need be.

Secondly, remember that this is NOT about national media, it is about grassroots and the support system necessary to turn out the vote. We decided as a grassroots community after NH that we would not rely on HQ to put Ron Paul into the White House but we were going to take it on ourselves to make this happen.

Look, Romney and Huckabee will be dropping out after Feb 5th. It will then be McCain vs. Paul!!!! ???

What part of this equation is confusing? There is NO way that true conservatives will back McCain against Dr. No! The upcoming debates will be the only national coverage necessary, screw the TV ads.

But, it is UP TO US! as a grassroots community to get out there, knock on the doors, and meet your fellow conservative republicans face to face and help to the polls! This is far from over. The LONG HAUL has just begun. My primary isn't even until May 20th!

 

[jbuttell]

inept? I think they've done QUITE well considering how the media has treated them. And it ain't over yet.

Look, we all are aware that it doesn't look good, but we still march on... We don't continue to donate knowing that we'll get anything in return - we donate because it's the least we can do to support the only candidate worthy of being our president. He wouldn't be wasting our time if he honestly thought it wasn't worth going foward.

.jeremy

 

[KevinR]

maybe he bought a 30 second timeslot for the superbowl? (2.7M) Would be risky and expensive, but the right ad could be worth the cost :O

 

[Billy Budd]

This thread has pissed me off. I wish people would do their homework before spouting off in print with demotivating words for 1000's of Ron Paul supporters and potential supporters. Way to promote the money train.

A national prime time 30 second ad is a minimum of 100,000 for air time not counting the production costs. That is the bottom end. For perspective, one 30 second highly produced ad during idol would run 800,000 to 900,000 dollars. That's one 30 second ad while everyone is getting up to go get some more chips. How far is 17 million going to go running those?

Further, Paul started out with a small crew and very little money. He/they could not plan for the amount of money that was taken in. I'm sure in hind sight this or that could have been done differently. I'm also sure that's true with all the campaigns.

I think they've been prudent and trying to cover the most ground with the money they have. Spending more in states where it's worth it and holding back in states where it isn't. So if you're sitting there not seeing Ron Paul commercials while watching your favorite show, consider the reasons why.

But the point is, instead of getting on the forums crying that you're not getting your money's worth, do your frikkin home work and if you got a problem, take it up with HQ. Don't plant seeds of doubt in the fund raising thread.

I am not really sure what HQ's overall plan is, all I know is that in Minnesota all I ever see are Obama ads, he appears to be running them every hour on some stations.

They've been playing very good RP radio ads on KSTP AM in the Twin Cities which is the "Talk Station" here. They are hitting the right people with them. I don't watch TV so I can't speak for that.

I have been razing (calling tand emailing) the 8 to 11 pm guy on KSTP and have got him to talk about Ron Paul on the air a few times now.