Huckabee drops out

Midnight77 said:
I guess I have no choice to go over to Obama now, as I am sure as Hell not casting my vote for McCain. We just need to pray that Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania don't screw this thing completely up make Hillary the nominee.
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You still have the Libertarian option, no he won't win, but the bigger his percentage, the higher we can raise the middle finger at the establishment.

There's no way I'll vote for either of the top two douchebags.
 
People criticized Ron Paul for taking aim at McCain in the debates. They said "Silly, you should have gone after Romney!"

Truth is, our man knows what he's doing. We may not always understand, and we are not guaranteed victory in any case, but let's keep working as long as he does, shall we?

So... in the remaining states... since McCain has it "locked up" according to the MSM. Why exactly are people going to turn out to vote for, if McCain already has it?

Either not many people will show up to vote (and that will play into our hands, if we can get ours to show), or the MSM will have to admit Paul is still running, and give him some screen time.

I see this as a decent development myself. Keep working the conventions!
 
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I want RP to hurry up and release a progress report. I want to know if it's over or not because all i hear are definite yes's or no's and im so confused!
 
what wondeful news!!! now i am going to get some rest. there is a lot more to do. no one give up.
 
I hope you will be happy voting for an extremely corrupt politician (judicialwatch.org) and a CFR member. Frankly, I will never vote that way.
 
abruzz0 said:
I hope you get leukemia and die
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Same to you. How old are you, by the way, my adolescent young friend? 6? 8? 11?

I don't think I've ever agreed with a candidate running for office any more than Ron Paul. His movement inspired me and for a period of time cured my apathy. We had high hopes in the Primaries that maybe this country was ready for a change. But I think what happened was that so many people left the Republican Party and either registered Democrat or Independant ... and therefore weren't even looking at the Republican candidates. Plus, we all know that the Media didn't give us a fair shake, and if you have limited exposure, or are laughed at and mocked, like they did with Paul, then people's perceptions are affected by that.

Now, I must say that the Republican voters were smart enough to see through Giuliani and Romney. They knew they weren't true Conservatives and realized that Giuliani was exploiting 9/11. People were tired of hearing that. His numerous scandals didn't help either.

Republicans simply like a strong national defense, and they feel that they will get that with McCain. The thing is that you can have a strong national defense, and keep your nose out of the rest of the world's business ... something McCain won't do. McCain will just continue down the same path and promote the same CFR agenda. I think it's safe to say that all 3 candidates that are left will do that ... Hillary, Obama, and McCain.

It's funny because I refused to listen to the polls. I didn't listen to the Media. I was told by everyone on here that it was a conspiracy against Ron's Campaign, etc. etc. etc. But as it turns out, they were apparently right. The media was the problem in not giving him a fair shake and dishonest pollsters like Frank Luntz should be ashamed at how they curve the polls to achieve the "right answers", but the polls in the end were still correct. We need to accept this and quit denying it.

I think one of the criticisms I have is that Ron didn't spend his money wisely. Known for being thrifty, those commercials he made for New Hampshire and Ohio were pretty poor considering the amount of money he spent on them.

I also think the criticisms about the radical supporters was true to an extent ... especially if you take a look at the post I was responding to, to begin with. That certainly didn't help us, nor did all the stories we were told about RP supporters harassing people around the country, to the point where voters were getting pissed. The cause and intentions were noble, but unfortunately, that is not how you treat voters. And this cost us.

Kudos to Las Vegas, the state where we achieved our Finest moment in obtaining 2nd Place when the rest of the major candidates were still in this thing. I actually visited Vegas and there were RP signs all over the place.

As of yesterday, John McCain achieved enough delegates to secure the nomination. John McCain is the Republican nominee. Anyone who is still not wishing to believe it at this moment is in denial ... plain and simple. We are not getting the nomination. You appreciate Ron Paul's truth and honesty with us, correct? Well, that is simply the truth, as well. It is what it is.

So now, we can not vote. Or we can decide between the Lesser of 2 Evils in Obama and McCain. At least, I don't think Hillary will be getting the nomination, as it is virtually impossible for her at this point. She'll likely have to rely on the Superdelegates, one of the most Un-democratic things in this entire election (ironically), yet something the Clinton Campaign is apparently A okay with.

I know the idea of a protest vote appeals to many, as it did to me at first. But we have to ask ourselves what this is really going to accomplish. Will it really do anything writing in RP's name in the General Election? If we didn't make a dent in the Primaries, which we didn't ... it's doubtful we would make any kind of statement here compared to the Millions of others that are voting.

No doubt about it, the RP supporters need to make some critical decisions on where to go from here, because essentially a vote for RP in the General Election, as truth be told, is a wasted vote and will likely be a vote for John McCain. So if putting in more War Mongers like George Bush and Dick Cheney is what you want, as much as I hate to say this ... writing in RP in the General Election, as noble as the intentions may be ... will essentially be a vote for John McCain.

If that is fine with you, then so be it. You have a right as an American to vote any which way that you please. But just think about the Long Term Repercussions and think about the Big Picture of what you are doing when you are actually casting your vote.
 
Midnight77 said:
No doubt about it, the RP supporters need to make some critical decisions on where to go from here, because essentially a vote for RP in the General Election, as truth be told, is a wasted vote and will likely be a vote for John McCain. So if putting in more War Mongers like George Bush and Dick Cheney is what you want, as much as I hate to say this ... writing in RP in the General Election, as noble as the intentions may be ... will essentially be a vote for John McCain.
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A vote for McCain, Hillary, or Obama is a vote for the CFR neo-con NWO machine any way you slice it.

It matters not what the "approved" candidates claim to stand for. They all work for the same boss.

Ron Paul doesn't work for that boss (at least to my knowledge). Vote AGAINST the CFR for a change.
 
There really is no evidence that Obama is a member of the CFR and there is no evidence that the CFR is out to get us either. Just more conspiracy theories.

Obama is a good 2nd choice for Ron Paul supporters. He is my 2nd choice. Because he will get us out of war and he understands when you should go to war and he understands the war we should have been fighting against al qaeda.

He's not perfect as he does have several plans that Ron Paul supporters should disagree with. Like a mandated child healthcare plan. But at least he doesn't have a mandated adult healthcare plan like Hillary.

But for those of us big on foreign policy he is 90% similar on foreign policy with Ron Paul. The differences are he is less strict on immigrants and he hasn't mentioned any plans to bring troops home from Europe and Japan.

So yeah. You guys can be dicks at you want to Ron Paul people moving toward Obama but not all of us freak out about the CFR and not all of us accuse Obama of being a member with very little evidence and not all of us think there is some sort of massive conspiracy where republicans and democrats are intentionally keeping the country down.

Many of you say well I should support the libertarian party for president. Why? Why should I support a candidate who has absolutely no government experience. I'm not going to vote for someone who's never held an elected position in their lifetime.

Some of you say I should write in Ron Paul. Ron Paul does not want to run against the republicans. He's said this many times. He wants to reteach the republicans their values. Not run against them in the general election. He tried that already. It worked against him.

So sorry but I'm sticking to candidates who have been to Washington and actually want to run and since it can't be Ron Paul at this point the next closest to my views is Obama. I'm not happy with my choice but that's all I have left at this point. Maybe I'll consider voting third party if Hillary wins.
 
Midnight77 said:
Same to you. How old are you, by the way, my adolescent young friend? 6? 8? 11?

I don't think I've ever agreed with a candidate running for office any more than Ron Paul. His movement inspired me and for a period of time cured my apathy. We had high hopes in the Primaries that maybe this country was ready for a change. But I think what happened was that so many people left the Republican Party and either registered Democrat or Independant ... and therefore weren't even looking at the Republican candidates. Plus, we all know that the Media didn't give us a fair shake, and if you have limited exposure, or are laughed at and mocked, like they did with Paul, then people's perceptions are affected by that.

Now, I must say that the Republican voters were smart enough to see through Giuliani and Romney. They knew they weren't true Conservatives and realized that Giuliani was exploiting 9/11. People were tired of hearing that. His numerous scandals didn't help either.

Republicans simply like a strong national defense, and they feel that they will get that with McCain. The thing is that you can have a strong national defense, and keep your nose out of the rest of the world's business ... something McCain won't do. McCain will just continue down the same path and promote the same CFR agenda. I think it's safe to say that all 3 candidates that are left will do that ... Hillary, Obama, and McCain.

It's funny because I refused to listen to the polls. I didn't listen to the Media. I was told by everyone on here that it was a conspiracy against Ron's Campaign, etc. etc. etc. But as it turns out, they were apparently right. The media was the problem in not giving him a fair shake and dishonest pollsters like Frank Luntz should be ashamed at how they curve the polls to achieve the "right answers", but the polls in the end were still correct. We need to accept this and quit denying it.

I think one of the criticisms I have is that Ron didn't spend his money wisely. Known for being thrifty, those commercials he made for New Hampshire and Ohio were pretty poor considering the amount of money he spent on them.

I also think the criticisms about the radical supporters was true to an extent ... especially if you take a look at the post I was responding to, to begin with. That certainly didn't help us, nor did all the stories we were told about RP supporters harassing people around the country, to the point where voters were getting pissed. The cause and intentions were noble, but unfortunately, that is not how you treat voters. And this cost us.

Kudos to Las Vegas, the state where we achieved our Finest moment in obtaining 2nd Place when the rest of the major candidates were still in this thing. I actually visited Vegas and there were RP signs all over the place.

As of yesterday, John McCain achieved enough delegates to secure the nomination. John McCain is the Republican nominee. Anyone who is still not wishing to believe it at this moment is in denial ... plain and simple. We are not getting the nomination. You appreciate Ron Paul's truth and honesty with us, correct? Well, that is simply the truth, as well. It is what it is.

So now, we can not vote. Or we can decide between the Lesser of 2 Evils in Obama and McCain. At least, I don't think Hillary will be getting the nomination, as it is virtually impossible for her at this point. She'll likely have to rely on the Superdelegates, one of the most Un-democratic things in this entire election (ironically), yet something the Clinton Campaign is apparently A okay with.

I know the idea of a protest vote appeals to many, as it did to me at first. But we have to ask ourselves what this is really going to accomplish. Will it really do anything writing in RP's name in the General Election? If we didn't make a dent in the Primaries, which we didn't ... it's doubtful we would make any kind of statement here compared to the Millions of others that are voting.

No doubt about it, the RP supporters need to make some critical decisions on where to go from here, because essentially a vote for RP in the General Election, as truth be told, is a wasted vote and will likely be a vote for John McCain. So if putting in more War Mongers like George Bush and Dick Cheney is what you want, as much as I hate to say this ... writing in RP in the General Election, as noble as the intentions may be ... will essentially be a vote for John McCain.

If that is fine with you, then so be it. You have a right as an American to vote any which way that you please. But just think about the Long Term Repercussions and think about the Big Picture of what you are doing when you are actually casting your vote.
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lol @ only one sentence of this being relevant

"Or we can decide between the Lesser of 2 Evils in Obama and McCain."

I stand by what I said earlier.
 
It's pretty sad when Ron Paul supporters start wishing leukemia and death upon each other. Can we please delete those posts they made? This is the most immature BS I've seen on these forums thus far. Really really sad
 
christagious said:
It's pretty sad when Ron Paul supporters start wishing leukemia and death upon each other. Can we please delete those posts they made? This is the most immature BS I've seen on these forums thus far. Really really sad
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You must be new here. (you're obviously not...but I've seen way worse than this...)
 
What's the obsession with feeling like you contributed and your vote was worth something that almost everyone seems to have?

Your vote isn't worth squat unless it's one for Ron Paul. Don't delude yourselves.

If Ron Paul isn't a choice come the general election then stay at home and feel proud as America collapses under financial duress and lends itself to many more wars knowing that you didn't lend your support to the candidate at the helm for any self-deceiving reasons such as 'I'm voting against McCain' - that's nonsense. McCain won't win even without your vote for Obama - so just damn well stay at home and don't have anything to do with the farce.

Pete
 
phixion said:
What's the obsession with feeling like you contributed and your vote was worth something that almost everyone seems to have?

Your vote isn't worth squat unless it's one for Ron Paul. Don't delude yourselves.

If Ron Paul isn't a choice come the general election then stay at home and feel proud as America collapses under financial duress and lends itself to many more wars knowing that you didn't lend your support to the candidate at the helm for any self-deceiving reasons such as 'I'm voting against McCain' - that's nonsense. McCain won't win even without your vote for Obama - so just damn well stay at home and don't have anything to do with the farce.

Pete
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That's a valid choice. But for me I don't want to not vote. It's not in me to not vote. I'll vote for who I think is the best candidate and hopefully some good will come out of it. We may be heading toward a financial crisis but I'd rather be a 3rd world country than an aggressive one that McCain wants to create.
 
The Tao Of Bill said:
Some of you say I should write in Ron Paul. Ron Paul does not want to run against the republicans. He's said this many times. He wants to reteach the republicans their values. Not run against them in the general election. He tried that already. It worked against him.
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Maybe you should ask yourself "WWRPVF (Who would Ron Paul vote for)?".

My guess is that it would be neither Obama nor McCain. What do you think?
 
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