HQ not sure if Glenn Beck decision will be made by years end.

[Ron LOL]

Like many of you I have donated a lot of time and money to the Ron Paul campaign and I am a little annoyed that they can't do more with what we have done for them. I just want to say imho the official campaign is extremely amateurish. Huckabee with far less cash puts together much more polished and effective advertising. He is well prepped for debates and media appearances. He "packages" his presentation and ideas and is well coached. Ron Paul goes out half the time in worn out Reeboks and a Sears suit and stammers and struggles to fit his ideas into the soundbites. Don't get me wrong I love Ron Paul and his message and have for years and that is why it is frustrating to see the lack of professional polish that should have come with the money. Also I am tired of hearing that they can't figure out what to do with all this unexpected money. That he is surprised to have the support etc etc. Hire some damn profesionals to spend our money in the most effetive way possible and that starts with getting a staff that will prepare you to get on every national TV appearence possible and stop fumbling the ball with important Republican voter groups lke the NRA. Stop saying you don't know what you are doing and you are as surprised as anyone to be there!

I am not a campaign pro but I know an amateur campaign when I see it and so does the American public.

/rant

I couldn't agree more. I feel exactly the same way about how the campaign is being run.

 

[BarryDonegan]

im sure there is a very good reason for this.

we are not politics professionals.

instead of criticizing the campaign, do stuff that makes their job easier

 

[Ann Kobialka]

And evidently some one at the campaign is not a politc professional either.
For three days noe larry king has been advertising
Fred Thompson and his lovely wife will be on Friday night for an indept interview
When is Dr. Paul and Carrol scheduled for thier indept interview
When are we scheduled for anything other than Alex Jones ???

 

[Zym]

I think it's a huge missed opportunity also, but remember there may be a very good reason Dr. Paul is not going on Beck that we are not aware of. I can't imagine him passing up this opportunity for no reason. There has to be something behind it that they don't want public.

Are people seriously suggesting we spam our own campaign???

 

[sarbruis]

2char

 

[weagle]

You do realize that Glenn Beck tapes these shows in advance. There is no scheduling conflict that has been going on for weeks. Glenn would probably tape it any day of the week and air it on Friday night when he normally airs one-on-one interviews on TV and could play the hour on radio an time during his 15 hours of broadcast during the week.

The campaign is wrong in this instance.

 

[Ron LOL]

When are we scheduled for anything other than Alex Jones ???

Reading this just makes me mad, because it's so true. No offense to Alex Jones fans, but that show should really be RP's lowest priority. Ron Paul should have been ALL OVER the conservative talk radio circuit by now. He doesn't even have to be in the studio for that (though it's nice for sound quality, and if he gets a full hour, he should really be there).

The "campaign professional" argument is getting a bit old IMO. Where's the media blitz? Does Ron Paul even have a press secretary or media relations pro? And I do mean pro, not someone who's just "kind of calling around."

Huckabee is able to do less with more not only because he gets MSM coverage that we don't. The production value of his Chuck Norris bit was way higher than our NH commercials. It's just shameful. This amateurism is going to be the end of us.

Washington may not have changed Ron Paul, but he needs to start playing like he's in the big leagues. Everybody I know is sick and tired of politics as usual. The message is there. We need to package it appropriately.

Our grassroots support is amazing, but it's kind of a sad day when everything we do looks better than what the campaign can pump out.

 

[BarryDonegan]

i guarantee you Larry King will not give an interview to Dr. Paul right now.

Larry King is as bad as gets as far as partisan favoritism. watch how he worked the Bush/Clinton election

 

[praxisseizure]

We're all in this together.

I think it's a huge missed opportunity also, but remember there may be a very good reason Dr. Paul is not going on Beck that we are not aware of. I can't imagine him passing up this opportunity for no reason. There has to be something behind it that they don't want public.

Are people seriously suggesting we spam our own campaign???

Whatever the case, cause or result.
You don't NEED GB. It could help and it couldn't really hurt that much, but that's irrelevant. You've done this outside the media system so well.. They should swoon over you! GB is pandering to your emotional reflexes. Let RP do this on his own, by his own free will. We're not PAYING for Ron Paul. We're SUPPORTING him because we are believers. We trust him. There's a difference there. Freedom is his message. At least we can dignify ourselves as RP supporters and understand if he makes UNPOPULAR CHOICES!

He might be wrong, he might be right. It isn't up to the media to inform people! What the hell do you think they've been doing the last 50 years? Making sure we know our rights?!

Our heads are getting bigger, Ron's is too. Don't let that get the best of your judgement. Ron is the most relaxed man I've ever seen on a stage filled with sharks that want to EAT HIM. Even when he gets tense.

Calm down, let things work out in the most beneficial way possible. There isn't going to be any blowback for not accepting GB's request now. If RP outright refused, then well... there might be some.. but really. You are bigger than GB and you know it. Does he have hundreds of thousands of people giving him millions of dollars of support for nothing more than faith in his ideas and conviction he could lead us to justice?!

Look forward people, not to the side. Distractions and Fractures will only hurt us.

Tom


(I've been a quiet absorbing lurker for 9 months. You guys are some of the most amazing people I've ever witnessed on the internet. I love you all and I've never met a single one. I live on a hill in Newtown, CT. I will see the sun set on a great day for the RP campaign around 5pmEST. 2 hours before GO-TIME.)

 

[torchbearer]

Because he is looking out for you!

 

[mconder]

Glenn Beck made an offer on YouTube to give Paul a full hour both on radio and on TV. I called HQ about the Glenn Beck interview. The campaign told me they couldn't commit to a decision being made by the end of the year on whether or not to accept. I think this is unacceptable.
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I agree that this is utterly unacceptable. Are they saying that there is something bigger planned for RP every day in December? Have they started smoking crack?

 

[dmspilot00]

The campaign is dropping the ball big time. They ignore emails, put out crap TV ads, and pass up huge media opportunities. Someone needs fired.

 

[Delain]

Maybe Ron Paul himself doenst want to go on?

So what you gonna do then? Make him?

F*** Glen Beck anyway. The guy puts up polls " Who will win the '08 Republican nomination?" with Ron Paul excluded. And now youre going to demand HQ because of that prick? Nuts!

 

[James R]

im sure there is a very good reason for this.

we are not politics professionals.

instead of criticizing the campaign, do stuff that makes their job easier

"I'm sure there is a very good reason for this." = Secret Evidence. I don't believe in secret evidence, either in the courts or in the political campaigns.

"They are the professionals." = Blind Faith. I don't believe in that either.

 

[Adamsa]

A lot of neo-conservatives could be swayed whilst watching, I think it's a good idea.

 

[WilliamC]

Be Presidential!

Greetings All

I think the campaign knows what they're doing on this one. I fully support their decision to abstain from the fork tongued demagogues program.

First let me give you a huge thanks for the interview you did, I saw it on youtube and you were fantastic!

I do hope the campaign knows what they are doing, but I also think that neither they nor Ron Paul were prepared for the amount of support and money he now has. I know NOTHING about political campaigns but surely there must be some way to get some professional advice that won't change the message but help make it more appealing for the general public? I really hope after the last debate Ron Paul gets more confident in himself, and not just in his message. He does very well when given time to explain his ideas but often on TV he doesn't have the time and needs to have good "soundbite" responses to common questions. He has come this far because he was largely "preaching to the choir" but most of the easy converts have already been made. Now he needs to bow the the inevitable pressure of a modern campaign and get his message polished and packaged for mass distribution. No matter his initial reluctance he is now the man in charge and all our support can't propel him to the next level unless he is willing to break the mold he is in. He has the voting record, the honesty, the integrity, and the truth on his side. Now he needs confidence in himself and in his message.

Please Dr. Paul, look outside yourself for help. We need you to lead the Revolution. Talk like a president, be decisive and take us to victory and yourself to the White House.

William C Colley

 

[Fyretrohl]

OKay...My .02...

First - We need to let the campaign know what we think, POSITIVELY. Remember, these are the people who are in charge of the campaign we support.

Second - People are correct. If RP does not do this, we will have to back off Beck, for better or worse. Can still point out real errors in what he says about Paul, but, not the attacks.

Finally - Perhaps an offer to raise X dollars to specifically allow this? Give Dr Paul a 'day' off type of situation, pay for the transport, etc. Just an idea of a special, small donation situation.

 

[Revolution9]

Glenn Beck made an offer on YouTube to give Paul a full hour both on radio and on TV. I called HQ about the Glenn Beck interview. The campaign told me they couldn't commit to a decision being made by the end of the year on whether or not to accept. I think this is unacceptable.
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I agree that this is utterly unacceptable. Are they saying that there is something bigger planned for RP every day in December? Have they started smoking crack?

I thought about this a while. This is actually a good strategy to not speak with him till the Q4 figures of all campaigns come out.. Then he will not be able to spend precious minutes on the you are not going to get the nomination crap. We should break records the weekend of the 16th and then decide the time of the showdown in Dodge City with the WhiteHat versus the BlackHats.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[ClayTrainor]

"I'm sure there is a very good reason for this." = Secret Evidence. I don't believe in secret evidence, either in the courts or in the political campaigns.

"They are the professionals." = Blind Faith. I don't believe in that either.

i gotta say bro..i agree with your reasoning 100%

This campaign is fueled by the people, so that the ron paul candidacy will support the people... abolish the cia, fbi... all these secret corporations.

No more secrecy, the campaign will hopefully at least explain to the people why Ron Paul will not appear, otherwise, people will begin not trusting this campaign, and it could divide us...

 

[torchbearer]

Because he is looking out for you!

just a reminder.