How would US Media react if a "White Power" or "Christian Power" party became part of US gov?
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TheTexan
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So I can count on you for the first contribution?
Are you volunteering to eat my dick?
A/S/L?
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After I barbecue it? Sure. It's a small enough favor to ask.
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And here I thought RPF no longer had any gays still on it. Looks like there is at least one
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And here I thought RPF no longer had any gays still on it. Looks like there is at least one
You act as if you've never barbecued pork before. One Little Smokie is as good as another.
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It's probably a strap on and would taste like latex.
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Good point. If it catches fire or melts through the grate, forget it.
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I'm saying they are worse than a horde of whores.
A whore is at least an honest business person.
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Ummmm......why would they need to be paid differently to call a "white power" group a "white supremacist" group? Is there a difference between "white power" and "white supremacy?"
And what is "supremacy?" It's being on top right? From the dictionary.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supremacy
Definition of supremacy
: the quality or state of being supreme
also : supreme authority or power
Supreme authority or supreme power. Who is supreme in this country? People try to draw equivalences between "white power" and "black power." Even with having a black president get re-elected, I wouldn't say black people have "supreme power." And when the "black power" movement was created black people certainly did not have anything close to supreme power. The "power" being sought wasn't to dominate. Few had that much ambition/imagination. The "power" sought was the ability to resist the dominate economic and political power. The dominate economic and political power in this country is white. Or....is it?
If we look at the U.S. Supreme Court, in a majority WASP country, most of the justices are either Catholic or Jewish. And when talking about economic power, when you talk about the "1%" that the left complains about all of the time....who's in the "1%?" Of the top 10 billionaires in the country, half of them are Jewish according to the Times Of Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-jews-make-forbes-list-of-top-10-wealthiest-americans/
So....50% of the "1%" that the left hates so much....is Jewish. Economic power is the most important power in a capitalist country right? So...who is supreme? And if someone is seeking to maintain supremacy....is not that person by definition...a supremacist? There may be black supremacism in the NBA (not in management and ownership of course). It may exist in boxing (again...not in management or ownership). It may be in rap/hip-hop. (Not in management and ownership.) It's interesting that the movie "Straight Out Of Compton" brought out the fact that NWA, the "OGs" of gansta rap, were taken over, managed and controlled by a Jewish businessman. He wanted them to attack their former partner Ice Cube for Cube's antisemitic attacks on him.
Now, I have to be honest. Even typing ^this out makes me uncomfortable. I've been conditioned to feel uncomfortable addressing this subject. So....somebody please explain to me why I am wrong. But it seems like we're all being scammed. And I don't have an answer to the scam other than to start asking the right questions.
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I think you may be on to something. I'm not sure if anyone has ever really investigated that angle before.
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Interesting how that works, as you get close to the "Third Rail".
nah , there is no congressional white christian caucus
I don't see the upside of putting the word "Power" in the name of the party.
Also, I'd think that Christian Party would work best. White Christians + Black Christians + Hispanic Christians = approx 70% of the people in the US.
Wouldn't put social issues first, seems like "take the money and the jobs and the power from the Non Christians and give them to the Christians" would be the key selling point.
Also, I'd think that Christian Party would work best. White Christians + Black Christians + Hispanic Christians = approx 70% of the people in the US.
Wouldn't put social issues first, seems like "take the money and the jobs and the power from the Non Christians and give them to the Christians" would be the key selling point.
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I think that's called the Republican caucus
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If that's how they were paid to react.
If the MSM was paid to react differently, it would react differently.
Hard to disagree with that.. hence "corporate journalism".
Nah , more like House Freedom Caucus which I know most are opposed to freedom .
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Some theories in the past had linked rise of extremist racial ideologies (some races are more supremacist/chosen than others) among Israelis and Israeli settlers to abuse, mistreatment and antisemitism against Jewish minorities in places like New York, Soviet Union/Russia, France, UK, Germany, Arab lands etc. In this frame, "racist" ideologies and extremism/violent extremism are sometimes seen as a reactionary coping machanism against abuse and trauma borne out of past or current insecurities that can be generational in some cases.
Election few years ago of a Russian migrant bouncer and "racist" Foreign Minister Lieberman was also linked to past decades sharp rise in Jewish migration out of USSR to Israel following defeat/breakeup of Soviet Union at the hands of assorted variety of violent Islamist Jihadis, Foreign Fighters, terrorists in Afghanistan (sometimes known as "ISIS 1.0", armed by Israel and funded by Reagan/Carter and various Jesus Return Prophecies driven Evangelical Christian (allegedly anti-semitic) outfits).
[Related: Was Reagan the worst President in US history?]
https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/914958337741135878
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The messianic draw of Meir Kahane should be a warning to us all
Too many Jews fell for the charisma of Rabbi Kahane — a violent, Arab-hating extremist ultimately shunned by Israel’s leaders
Colin Shindler
November 5, 2020
Followers of Kahane pray at his grave in Jerusalem (Image: Getty Images) Thirty years ago, on 5 November 1990, Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defence League (JDL) in the US and the Kach party in Israel, was gunned down by an Egyptian Islamist, El Sayyed Nosair, at the Marriot Hotel in Manhattan. He was 58 and a father of four.
Kahane had repeatedly proclaimed his mantra that “the pain of a Jew wherever he may be, is our pain” and espoused violent actions to prove his commitment — someone who projected himself as a lonely man of faith, a prophet to a loyal group of young untainted followers.
Born in 1932 as Martin David Kahane, he was very much a child of his times. His father supported the militancy of Vladimir Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Zionists. With the revelations of the Shoah shocking American Jews, Kahane joined the nationalist Betar in 1946 and was arrested at a protest against the visiting British Foreign Secretary, Ernest Bevin, some months later.
He attended the Mir Yeshiva in Brooklyn and came under the influence of Avraham Kalmanovich, a heroic figure who had escaped from Lithuania at the beginning of the war. Kalmanovich was credited with the saving of the Mir Yeshiva students by securing their passage, first to Shanghai and then on to New York. The members of other yeshivot in Lithuania were systematically annihilated by the Nazis. Kahane easily switched his allegiance from Betar to Bnei Akiva in 1954.
Kahane thus came of age in momentous times, the arrival of camp survivors in the US, the rise of Israel and the Black Years of Soviet Jewry (1948-1953). His youth was coloured by the intimidating accusations of Senator Joe McCarthy’s UnAmerican Activities Committee as well as the antisemitic Stalinist show trials in Eastern Europe.
As a charismatic communal rabbi, a prolific writer and a married man, Kahane was restless with the burden of respectability and restraint. By the 1960s, he began to lead a double life.
At home over Shabbat, as Meir Kahane, he was the wise sage and loving father. At work during the week, as Michael King, he took off his kippah, informed on fellow Jews for the FBI and was a hard-drinking womaniser. In the 1960s, a disproportionate number of Jews were involved in the protests against the ill-fated war in Vietnam. Kahane viewed the conflict as a milhemet mitzva, an obligatory war, and later claimed that the CIA had funded his campaign to entice Orthodox Jewry into the pro-war camp.
Kahane arrives in London in 1971 to lead a protest outside the Soviet Embassy (Image: George Stroud/Express/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
In 1968 he founded the JDL, primarily to help the Jewish left-behinds as their more well-to-do coreligionists moved into the suburbs. The rise of the militant Black Panthers, often accompanied by antisemitic innuendo amidst the demand for better housing allowed Kahane to mobilise young Jews — a menacing insouciance, armed with baseball bats and lead pipes — to defend those who remained.
This coincided with the conquest of the West Bank during the Six-Day war and the first collective letters reaching the West from emboldened Jewish refuseniks in the USSR.
Within a short time, the JDL was the fastest growing Jewish organisation in the US, exhibiting a deep antipathy to the shtadlanim (court Jews) of establishment organisations. Yet within a year of its formation, the JDL had crossed the line between militancy and violence, between respect for the rule of law and illegality, between Jabotinsky and Kahane.
Kahane imitated Jabotinsky’s promotion of “the new Jew” who should exhibit dignity (hadar) and be as strong as iron (barzel), but he went further by planting bombs and accumulating an arsenal of guns. A bomb in the offices of the impresario Sol Hurok, who brought Soviet artists to the US, killed a Jewish secretary. Kahane struck up a friendship with the Mafia boss, Joe Columbo, who obligingly put up $45,000 bail when he was accused of violating the Federal Gun Control Act.
In November 1971, Kahane visited London in an attempt to establish a British branch of the JDL and spoke to a packed meeting at Central Hall, Westminster. His presence in the UK led to many denunciations by Jewish organisations. The United Synagogue turned down requests from several synagogues for Kahane to give a sermon on Shabbat. He was, however, called up on Shabbat at Golders Green Synagogue.
A grandson of Meir Kahane, Meir Ettinger, arrested in 2015 on suspicion of 'nationalist crimes' (Image: Getty Images)
The Universities Committee for Soviet Jewry was determined to prevent Kahane from capitalising on all its hard work. At the Westminister meeting, one of its members asked whether Kahane would do his patriotic duty and offer himself in exchange for Jews in strict regime labour camps. “The KGB will have Rabbi Kahane, the Jewish people will have the prisoners of Zion”. This proposition did not impress the hundreds of irate supporters present.
Recently released records indicate that people were informing the FBI of Kahane’s conversations within his inner circle as well as at his meetings in synagogues and on campus. One report commented: “His intent is to secure germs of a virulent disease from a hospital or bacteriologist, grow a sufficient amount of these germs, and then smuggle them to a Soviet city. He will then threaten to contaminate the city unless the Soviet (sic) allow Jews to emigrate to Israel.”
In 1971, Kahane emigrated to Israel where his ideas and actions were taken to new extremes. Israel’s leaders were “Hellenised Jews” while Arabs were “thorns in our eyes”. Kahane wanted the Arabs of Israel and Palestinians in the territories to depart with compensation. Those who remained would not be permitted to participate in political life. Intermarriage between a Jew and an Arab in Kahane’s Israel would be regarded as a capital offence.
thejc.com/news/features/the-messianic-draw-of-meir-kahane-should-be-a-warning-to-us-all-1.508270
Netanyahu’s Far-Right Partners Were Birthed by U.S. Terrorists
Brooklyn-born militant Meir Kahane's ideas are becoming dangerously acceptable in Israel.
By Zach Dorfman | April 8, 2019
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/08/netanyahus-far-right-partners-were-birthed-by-u-s-terrorists/
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Middle East History: It Happened in August
Jewish Defense League Unleashes Campaign of Violence in America
By Donald Neff
It was 29 years ago, on Aug. 29, 1970, that the Soviet government newspaper Izvestia protested repeated attacks by members of the Jewish Defense League against Soviet diplomats in New York and demanded better U.S. protection.[SUP]
JDL co-founder Meir Kahane, a rabid Jewish activist from Brooklyn, later publicly admitted the JDL “bombed the Russian mission in New York, the Russian cultural mission here [Washington] in 1970, the Soviet trade offices.”[/SUP]
The aim of the campaign was to draw attention to the 2.1 million Jews living in the Soviet Union. Unknown to the public was the fact that the anti-Soviet actions were being orchestrated by several militant Israelis, including the Mossad spy agency; Yitzhak Shamir, later Israel’s prime minister, and Guelah Cohen, a leader of the extremist Tehiya Party and member of the Knesset. The Israelis persuaded Kahane to wage the anti-Soviet campaign. The goal was to strain U.S.”“Soviet relations, calculating that Moscow would ease the strain by allowing increased numbers of Soviet Jews to emigrate to Israel.
A 1985 FBI study of terrorist acts in the United States since 1981 found 18 incidents initiated by Jews, 15 of the acts by the JDL. In a 1986 study of domestic terrorism, the Department of Energy concluded: “For more than a decade, the Jewish Defense League (JDL) has been one of the most active terrorist groups in the United States
[SUP]wrmea.org/1999-july-august/jewish-defense-league-unleashes-campaign-of-violence-in-america.html
[/SUP]SOVIET'S U.N. CHARGE REBUFFED BY ISRAEL
May 13, 1976
UNITED NATIONS, N.Y., May 12—Israel today rejected Soviet charges that it was responsible for terrorist attacks or threats against the Soviet Mission to the United Nations or that it was guilty of “racial genocide” in the occupied West Bank of the Jordan.
Chaim Herzog, the Israeli representative, told the Security Council that his Government rejected the methods of the “fringe group” led by Rabbi Meir Kahane.
Mr. Herzog was rebutting charges, made by Yakov A. Malik of the Soviet Union in a Council meeting on Monday, that Israel was responsible for such terrorism as was being practiced by Rabbi Kahane's group, the Jewish Defense League.
Mr. Herzog spoke in the Council debate on the situation in Israeli‐occupied Arab territories.
nytimes.com/1976/05/13/archives/soviets-un-charge-rebuffed-by-israel.html
Election few years ago of a Russian migrant bouncer and "racist" Foreign Minister Lieberman was also linked to past decades sharp rise in Jewish migration out of USSR to Israel following defeat/breakeup of Soviet Union at the hands of assorted variety of violent Islamist Jihadis, Foreign Fighters, terrorists in Afghanistan (sometimes known as "ISIS 1.0", armed by Israel and funded by Reagan/Carter and various Jesus Return Prophecies driven Evangelical Christian (allegedly anti-semitic) outfits).
[Related: Was Reagan the worst President in US history?]
https://twitter.com/maxblumenthal/status/914958337741135878
"Zionism is Racism"
OMCA COLLECTIONS - Oakland Museum of California
http://collections.museumca.org/?q=collection-item/201054219
On this day: UN Resolution 3379 - "Zionism Is Racism"
"Feeling The Hate In Jerusalem"
The messianic draw of Meir Kahane should be a warning to us all
Too many Jews fell for the charisma of Rabbi Kahane — a violent, Arab-hating extremist ultimately shunned by Israel’s leaders
Colin Shindler
November 5, 2020
Kahane had repeatedly proclaimed his mantra that “the pain of a Jew wherever he may be, is our pain” and espoused violent actions to prove his commitment — someone who projected himself as a lonely man of faith, a prophet to a loyal group of young untainted followers.
Born in 1932 as Martin David Kahane, he was very much a child of his times. His father supported the militancy of Vladimir Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Zionists. With the revelations of the Shoah shocking American Jews, Kahane joined the nationalist Betar in 1946 and was arrested at a protest against the visiting British Foreign Secretary, Ernest Bevin, some months later.
He attended the Mir Yeshiva in Brooklyn and came under the influence of Avraham Kalmanovich, a heroic figure who had escaped from Lithuania at the beginning of the war. Kalmanovich was credited with the saving of the Mir Yeshiva students by securing their passage, first to Shanghai and then on to New York. The members of other yeshivot in Lithuania were systematically annihilated by the Nazis. Kahane easily switched his allegiance from Betar to Bnei Akiva in 1954.
Kahane thus came of age in momentous times, the arrival of camp survivors in the US, the rise of Israel and the Black Years of Soviet Jewry (1948-1953). His youth was coloured by the intimidating accusations of Senator Joe McCarthy’s UnAmerican Activities Committee as well as the antisemitic Stalinist show trials in Eastern Europe.
As a charismatic communal rabbi, a prolific writer and a married man, Kahane was restless with the burden of respectability and restraint. By the 1960s, he began to lead a double life.
At home over Shabbat, as Meir Kahane, he was the wise sage and loving father. At work during the week, as Michael King, he took off his kippah, informed on fellow Jews for the FBI and was a hard-drinking womaniser. In the 1960s, a disproportionate number of Jews were involved in the protests against the ill-fated war in Vietnam. Kahane viewed the conflict as a milhemet mitzva, an obligatory war, and later claimed that the CIA had funded his campaign to entice Orthodox Jewry into the pro-war camp.
In 1968 he founded the JDL, primarily to help the Jewish left-behinds as their more well-to-do coreligionists moved into the suburbs. The rise of the militant Black Panthers, often accompanied by antisemitic innuendo amidst the demand for better housing allowed Kahane to mobilise young Jews — a menacing insouciance, armed with baseball bats and lead pipes — to defend those who remained.
This coincided with the conquest of the West Bank during the Six-Day war and the first collective letters reaching the West from emboldened Jewish refuseniks in the USSR.
Within a short time, the JDL was the fastest growing Jewish organisation in the US, exhibiting a deep antipathy to the shtadlanim (court Jews) of establishment organisations. Yet within a year of its formation, the JDL had crossed the line between militancy and violence, between respect for the rule of law and illegality, between Jabotinsky and Kahane.
Kahane imitated Jabotinsky’s promotion of “the new Jew” who should exhibit dignity (hadar) and be as strong as iron (barzel), but he went further by planting bombs and accumulating an arsenal of guns. A bomb in the offices of the impresario Sol Hurok, who brought Soviet artists to the US, killed a Jewish secretary. Kahane struck up a friendship with the Mafia boss, Joe Columbo, who obligingly put up $45,000 bail when he was accused of violating the Federal Gun Control Act.
In November 1971, Kahane visited London in an attempt to establish a British branch of the JDL and spoke to a packed meeting at Central Hall, Westminster. His presence in the UK led to many denunciations by Jewish organisations. The United Synagogue turned down requests from several synagogues for Kahane to give a sermon on Shabbat. He was, however, called up on Shabbat at Golders Green Synagogue.
The Universities Committee for Soviet Jewry was determined to prevent Kahane from capitalising on all its hard work. At the Westminister meeting, one of its members asked whether Kahane would do his patriotic duty and offer himself in exchange for Jews in strict regime labour camps. “The KGB will have Rabbi Kahane, the Jewish people will have the prisoners of Zion”. This proposition did not impress the hundreds of irate supporters present.
Recently released records indicate that people were informing the FBI of Kahane’s conversations within his inner circle as well as at his meetings in synagogues and on campus. One report commented: “His intent is to secure germs of a virulent disease from a hospital or bacteriologist, grow a sufficient amount of these germs, and then smuggle them to a Soviet city. He will then threaten to contaminate the city unless the Soviet (sic) allow Jews to emigrate to Israel.”
In 1971, Kahane emigrated to Israel where his ideas and actions were taken to new extremes. Israel’s leaders were “Hellenised Jews” while Arabs were “thorns in our eyes”. Kahane wanted the Arabs of Israel and Palestinians in the territories to depart with compensation. Those who remained would not be permitted to participate in political life. Intermarriage between a Jew and an Arab in Kahane’s Israel would be regarded as a capital offence.
thejc.com/news/features/the-messianic-draw-of-meir-kahane-should-be-a-warning-to-us-all-1.508270
Netanyahu’s Far-Right Partners Were Birthed by U.S. Terrorists
Brooklyn-born militant Meir Kahane's ideas are becoming dangerously acceptable in Israel.
By Zach Dorfman | April 8, 2019
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/08/netanyahus-far-right-partners-were-birthed-by-u-s-terrorists/
Related
Middle East History: It Happened in August
Jewish Defense League Unleashes Campaign of Violence in America
By Donald Neff
It was 29 years ago, on Aug. 29, 1970, that the Soviet government newspaper Izvestia protested repeated attacks by members of the Jewish Defense League against Soviet diplomats in New York and demanded better U.S. protection.[SUP]
JDL co-founder Meir Kahane, a rabid Jewish activist from Brooklyn, later publicly admitted the JDL “bombed the Russian mission in New York, the Russian cultural mission here [Washington] in 1970, the Soviet trade offices.”[/SUP]
The aim of the campaign was to draw attention to the 2.1 million Jews living in the Soviet Union. Unknown to the public was the fact that the anti-Soviet actions were being orchestrated by several militant Israelis, including the Mossad spy agency; Yitzhak Shamir, later Israel’s prime minister, and Guelah Cohen, a leader of the extremist Tehiya Party and member of the Knesset. The Israelis persuaded Kahane to wage the anti-Soviet campaign. The goal was to strain U.S.”“Soviet relations, calculating that Moscow would ease the strain by allowing increased numbers of Soviet Jews to emigrate to Israel.
A 1985 FBI study of terrorist acts in the United States since 1981 found 18 incidents initiated by Jews, 15 of the acts by the JDL. In a 1986 study of domestic terrorism, the Department of Energy concluded: “For more than a decade, the Jewish Defense League (JDL) has been one of the most active terrorist groups in the United States
[SUP]wrmea.org/1999-july-august/jewish-defense-league-unleashes-campaign-of-violence-in-america.html
[/SUP]SOVIET'S U.N. CHARGE REBUFFED BY ISRAEL
May 13, 1976
UNITED NATIONS, N.Y., May 12—Israel today rejected Soviet charges that it was responsible for terrorist attacks or threats against the Soviet Mission to the United Nations or that it was guilty of “racial genocide” in the occupied West Bank of the Jordan.
Chaim Herzog, the Israeli representative, told the Security Council that his Government rejected the methods of the “fringe group” led by Rabbi Meir Kahane.
Mr. Herzog was rebutting charges, made by Yakov A. Malik of the Soviet Union in a Council meeting on Monday, that Israel was responsible for such terrorism as was being practiced by Rabbi Kahane's group, the Jewish Defense League.
Mr. Herzog spoke in the Council debate on the situation in Israeli‐occupied Arab territories.
nytimes.com/1976/05/13/archives/soviets-un-charge-rebuffed-by-israel.html
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