How Will the Next 10-12 Yrs Play Out?

[Leroy_Jenkems]

Many people on this website's forums, and several horn-blowers elsewhere (David Walker, Peter Schiff, Glenn Beck) have discussed the possible scenarios that may play out when our national currency unravels. Some say that the government will continue being sneaky about the inflation, and the decline in value of the dollar will be a uniform slope, in graph speak. Others postulate that there will be one or a few major drop-off-the-cliff points which will cause people to rush their local Wal-Mart to stock up on critical items needed for the fallout.

What I'm getting at is this: it's in the best interests of the NWO crowd to keep the decline of our dollar's value on a steady downward slope, so that no one snowballing revolt breaks out, and when people have been letting the anger gradually build to the limit, then the gov't steps in and announces that the SPP/NAU scheme will solve all of our financial woes.

So, does anybody here still theorize that there will be one or several points in the coming years where all of the shit will hit the fan?


And if this has been discussed a million times before, I'm sorry - please post the relevant thread links.

-Chad

 

[Allen72289]

I'm not sure, the banks want a slow decline, that's for sure.

However, all it takes is a wealthy foreign investor to dump his or her dollars all at once and the chain reaction begins..

 

[Acala]

dam burst

As inflation increases, the dollar (and investments denominated in dollars) gets harder and harder for investors, central banks, governments, and international traders to hold and use. But they know that a world-wide dollar dump will cause the value of the dollar to collapse. So they are stuck. They will want to unload inflating dollars but don't want to trigger a rush for the door that will cause the value of their dollars to fall. But if there is going to be a rush for the door, they want to be first, not last. So there is a steadily building tension as inflation increases. At some point, if inflation continues to climb, the dam will burst and there will be a catastrophic unloading of dollars on the market. And that will be all she wrote. When will it happen? I don't know, but I bet within two years.

 

[Kludge]

*Shrug* Long term recession occasionally broken up by the Fed to prevent a depression for ~3 years while the Banks, Fed and Media all deny any serious problems.... Once the Fed gives in to reporting a depression, we'll have the market correction politicians have been putting off for many many years, probably in the form of a relatively short 2-3 year deep depression, until politicians can again "correct" the correction by borrowing more time so that the next manufactured cycle hits us harder.

 

[Fox McCloud]

I just found out the other day that 60% of the Euro is tied to the dollar....so that means, ultimately, if the dollar crashes, the Euro probably will too (I guess the EU Central Bank is using some scheme to pump more money into the British economy through underhanded means, and the British are helping prop up the US dollar).

Either way...my guess? Things will continue...and eventually it'll be convenient to crash the dollar...this'll take out the US, Canada's, Europe's, and the UK's currency. At this point in time, a North American Union will be formed, and the UN (or some other body) will take advantage of the situation and suggest making Canada, Mexico, America, UK, and Europe's currency all the same.

just my own speculation, and I have my doubts that this'll happen, but who knows at this point in the game?

One thing has been proven though--the bankers will do anything at this point to keep the shell game going, and the general public duped as much as possible.

I think all of this will happen a lot faster than people think it will...

 

[yongrel]

Well, according to the Mayans...

 

[raystone]

I think this is an important question. Publicizing the well researched answer may "help?" John Q. Public to wake up. As we know, the politics of fear is extremely effective.

 

[Acala]

Out of control

I don't think the Fed or the banks or any elite group CAN control it.

The size of the debt hole - national debt, state debt, municipal debt, consumer debt, mortgage debt - is so unfathomably huge, and the size of government unfunded programmatic obligations at every level is so inconceivably colossal, that the government will have no choice but to pour new dollars into the economy at an unprecedented rate. It is the only way they will be able to pay the bills. And in so doing they will destroy the dollar. There is no way out. It will be instant Mother of All Depressions or death by hyper-inflation.

 

[Leroy_Jenkems]

However, all it takes is a wealthy foreign investor to dump his or her dollars all at once and the chain reaction begins..

Yes, most definitely, but my argument is that our nation's puppet masters behind the curtain will bargain with any foreign investor on the verge of doing so, and will "liquidate" a piece of our nation's sovereignty as collateral. Perhaps an agreement will be made to have the U.S. sign some "shared prosperity" document, in addition to repeated assurances that the Fed will "fix all this mess," as a condition of preventing these wealth foreign investors from dumping their dollars.

And yes, John Q. Public needs to know about this. This ain't some crazy conspiracy theory. The decline of the dollar is a real motive for the brainwashed masses to jump onboard some sellout of our national sovereignty, all under the pretty banner of "shared prosperity."

 

[Leroy_Jenkems]

I don't think the Fed or the banks or any elite group CAN control it.

The size of the debt hole - national debt, state debt, municipal debt, consumer debt, mortgage debt - is so unfathomably huge, and the size of government unfunded programmatic obligations at every level is so inconceivably colossal, that the government will have no choice but to pour new dollars into the economy at an unprecedented rate. It is the only way they will be able to pay the bills. And in so doing they will destroy the dollar. There is no way out. It will be instant Mother of All Depressions or death by hyper-inflation.

If it can't be controlled, then why is Ron Paul bothering to run at all? Why talk about cutting government programs, bringing all of out troops home to save money, balancing the budget?

The government's got three options:
1) Borrow (at a higher interest rate than in the past, obviously)
2) Tax
3) Inflate

Option (1) would be of foreign origin. Therein would be the great possibility of using U.S. sovereignty as collateral.

Option (2) would be to tax working Americans to the hilt. They fear (at least I hope they do) that if they tax too much, a mob will be outside the Capitol with pitchforks and torches.

Option (3) would be the most likely, I agree. But this will lead into a "shared prosperity" partnership as well.

 

[Fox McCloud]

If it can't be controlled, then why is Ron Paul bothering to run at all? Why talk about cutting government programs, bringing all of out troops home to save money, balancing the budget?

The government's got three options:
1) Borrow (at a higher interest rate than in the past, obviously)
2) Tax
3) Inflate

Option (1) would be of foreign origin. Therein would be the great possibility of using U.S. sovereignty as collateral.

Option (2) would be to tax working Americans to the hilt. They fear (at least I hope they do) that if they tax too much, a mob will be outside the Capitol with pitchforks and torches.

Option (3) would be the most likely, I agree. But this will lead into a "shared prosperity" partnership as well.

I think he meant that the bankers can't really make the economy or dollar stable anymore, even if they wanted to--they have no choice but to continue down the path they've created...if they reverse their policies, it'll cause chaos immediately...but, if they continue their policies, they might buy themselves a little extra time.

 

[Acala]

Correct

Yes, Fox is correct.

Even Ron Paul can't stop a market correction. The damage from rampant inflation is already IN the captial structure of the economy. It is going to manifest itself eventually, one way or the other.

BUT Ron Paul, with the help of Congress, could stop a hyper-inflationary collapse and make the correction short and the recovery solid and sustained by dramatically reducing government spending, lowering taxes, restoring economic prosperity, paying off the debt, and starting down the road to sound money.

But unless the R3volution is successful in awakening the people, none of those things are going to happen. Instead, the government will do all the wrong things and at the very least give us a sustained and extremely painful inflationary depression, if not a hyper-inflationary crack up.

 

[Allen72289]

Let''s be optimistic, in 12 years we will have ended all government corruption, abolished the irs, brought our troops home, down sized the army, installed a militia much like Switzerland's, replaced taxes with a 0.3% vat tax, repealed all illegal laws and lynched every single bought out politician, banker and industrialist guilty of war crimes and theft of the American people.

edit: We will destroy democracy and reinstall true Republicanism and take all the stolen goods taken by bankers, industrialist and politicians. =D REVOLUTION TO THE MAX!

 

[Leroy_Jenkems]

Let''s be optimistic, in 12 years we will have ended all government corruption, abolished the irs, brought our troops home, down sized the army, installed a militia much like Switzerland's, replaced taxes with a 0.3% vat tax, repealed all illegal laws and lynched every single bought out politician, banker and industrialist guilty of war crimes and theft of the American people.

edit: We will destroy democracy and reinstall true Republicanism and take all the stolen goods taken by bankers, industrialist and politicians. =D REVOLUTION TO THE MAX!

haha good one. Let me know when the lynchings begin, I'll gladly help out with that.

 

[Allen72289]

How could I forget these two end the fed and install various laws that allowed anything but paper to circulate as currency..

 

[tmosley]

Let''s be optimistic, in 12 years we will have ... lynched every single...American....

...We will destroy democracy...!

This is what the MSM would get out of your post.

 

[Allen72289]

Lol. :o Fair and balanced.

 

[pinkmandy]

and lynched every single bought out politician, banker and industrialist guilty of war crimes and theft of the American people.

I actually had a great dream about this the other night. I was in Congress, having lunch with Ron Paul and a large group of other Paulites. We had taken over the entire govt and we were having a discussion about what to do with all the corrupt politicians, how long should we go back in bringing charges, what charges to bring, which people deserve death, etc. We then decided we had to do something with all of them until we had reached a consensus. So...since all those FEMA camps were just sitting there empty that's where we put them.

Is it sad that I consider that one of my best dreams ever?

 

[Allen72289]

Nah, it's natural.

ffs These crooks stole our prosperity, it is only natural that we release our bottled up energy.

Honestly, just like the nazis were prosecuted I think many people should be put on trial and prosecuted.

Under our Republic's supreme law they are doing illegal activities.

 

[jkm1864]

1) Inflationary Depression
2) People starving and homeless in the streets
3) High crime and food riots
4) Martial law
5) World War 3
6) Fema Camping
7) Draft
8) Religious persecution & Religious revival