How we can SECEDE from the Union!!

[Nate K]

It's really not that hard, if you focus on what would need to be done in order for this to happen, it's very doable.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I'm pretty sure it works..

There is the State House and the State Senate, just like in the National Congress. Each state has a different amount of representatives and senators, that to my knowledge is NOT based on population.

If we control both sides and agree to secede from the Union, what's stopping us? Will America go to war? If enough states do so, I highly doubt it!

Now if my theory is correct, we ought to use some strategy here, and look at the number of representatives and senators in each state that would enable us to get the most in! Now what would be better for us, a state with a large General Assembly based on population or a smaller one?

Here are some key states I think we should focus on (especially Texas) and their General Assembly number:

New Hampshire: 24 in the Senate and 400 in the House. Population: est. 1.4 million

Vermont: 30 in the Senate and 150 in the House. Population: est. 650,000

Texas: 31 in the Senate and 150 in the House. Population:24 million

Montana: 50 in the Senate and 100 in the House. Population: 1 million.

Have another state in mind? Post it and I'll look it up. I'm getting this info from the 2008 Almanac.

What does this mean for you? Well this all means start preparing for state government!! State government at this point, if you look at it from this angle, much more powerful than federal. Are you interested in politics? Do you feel that you could serve your constituents? Are you a well enough speaker for the job? If you answer any of these with a yes, YOU SHOULD RUN FOR AT LEAST STATE HOUSE. If you are well qualified (ex. Master's Degree, great speaker, etc.) you should run for State Senate.

Are you not interested enough in politics or that field of study? That's ok too!! You can donate to the people running in your state, which is just as important!

Let's use an example here for Texas (a state we should all focus on).. A representative for Texas serves approx. 160,000 people. (24,000,000/ 150) That means you would need to have decent funds/ donors in that state to win, my guess is around 100-150k.

However!, in New Hampshire a state representative serves 3, 500 people!! (1,400,000/ 400). You would need little funds to win that state!


So why secede in the first place?

Because it may just be a whole lot simpler concentrating our efforts in a few states or even one state, rather than trying to focus on the corruption of the whole country! PLUS, this is a plan that is not expected by the elites, this will have them on their toes, and trust me, with enough planning done quickly, we could pull this off.

So what should you do now?? Start sharing ideas in this thread and come up with ideas of your own!!

 

[nate895]

No, you need to call a convention, because a convention ratified the Constitution, and therefore only they can rescind ratification, and there would be a debate, and we would have to get secessionist to become delegates to the convention. I encourage you to read A Constitutional History of Secession by John Remington Graham if you wish to learn more.

 

[silverhandorder]

We can win our country back to the law of the land.

I am not thinking about this yet until they have SS Troopers reinforcing Martial Law.

 

[danberkeley]

once we secede, all we need is guns to protect ourselves from
the federal government. ooops, too late. at least obama will
keep me safe from the boogey men using his rhetoric.

 

[PopeDonzel]

Secede from the Union FTL

 

[Nate K]

We can win our country back to the law of the land.

I am not thinking about this yet until they have SS Troopers reinforcing Martial Law.

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

 

[silverhandorder]

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

I agree with you too . I see a lot of people from my meet up mobilizing with in the party here in NYC. So I am confident in New Yorkers.

 

[Nate K]

I agree with you too . I see a lot of people from my meet up mobilizing with in the party here in NYC. So I am confident in New Yorkers.

That's good to hear. One way or another, we need to take over the Republican party whether it is state-wide or nation-wide.

I haven't lost my ambition to fund every Libertarian who will strategically grant the most freedom and I will be working double hard on getting people more educated and out there to be funded!

 

[virginiakid]

While I agree, I think it is equally important to take over the state legislation NOW rather than later, where we risk losing MORE of our freedom as time goes by!

The state government is where it is at. Get enough delegates, senators and even a governor who are willing to stand up for their states rights according to the constitution then you can easily bring the federal government back into submission and make it follow its own constitution that it made with the people and the states.

 

[UnReconstructed]

You must have forgotten this was already tried without success.

 

[nate895]

You must have forgotten this was already tried without success.

I understand, and I also understand that if the US attacks a seceding state, they will be cut off from the rest of the world.

 

[Nate K]

Who will help me make a website dedicated to getting in state government?

Is anyone computer savvy? I need some help!

 

[Nate K]

I understand, and I also understand that if the US attacks a seceding state, they will be cut off from the rest of the world.

Bingo, the feds are in NO condition to take arms against us!!

Think like they do.. they are already planning wars with various other countries, they NEED Canada to help with manpower, do you really think they'd want to turn this into a war?

If everyone on this forum were to focus on this and start working on it, we could turn this situation around and have the elites by their balls! I guarantee it.

 

[virginiakid]

BTW, I think Vermont has a secessionist party. I know the south had one a couple of years ago, but I guess they died out. I bet Montana has one. I know in Canada, Quebec was given the right to secede from Canada, but they chose not to. And in the Western Provinces there are secessionist movements taking place there as well.

Secession can be done, it would take years of teaching people and you must have the right conditions to do it. Are we there yet? I bet we are getting close. But you can be sure that the federal government will make war with any state to beat it and its people back into submission like it did against the southern states during the WBTS.

 

[nate895]

BTW, I think Vermont has a secessionist party. I know the south had one a couple of years ago, but I guess they died out. I bet Montana has one. I know in Canada, Quebec was given the right to secede from Canada, but they chose not to. And in the Western Provinces there are secessionist movements taking place there as well.

Secession can be done, it would take years of teaching people and you must have the right conditions to do it. Are we there yet? I bet we are getting close. But you can be sure that the federal government will make war with any state to beat it and its people back into submission like it did against the southern states during the WBTS.

The South still has one, and they are allied with those in Vermont. Most of the efforts have been abandoned for the Ron Paul campaign in the South.

 

[ronpaulforpresident]

Yeah we can be like Kosovo!

 

[nate895]

Yeah we can be like Kosovo!

Except for without the EU and NATO crap.

 

[Nate K]

There's already a secessionist movement in Vermont?!? Why aren't we focusing on that state!?

 

[nate895]

There's already a secessionist movement in Vermont?!? Why aren't we focusing on that state!?

The secessionist movement is more like Dennis Kucinich than Ron Paul.

 

[ladyliberty3]

What I wonder about is this: How many states get some of their water from other states and is the Fed involved? Do states have their own elec. grid or is it all connected and the Fed involved? What about US Highways that run through all states? What about the national guard in each of those states? What about military bases? and on it goes???????