How to Win the Convention- REAL REVOLUTION

[hillertexas]

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[DeafEric]

For the benefit of those that may have missed these points on the thread.

We need to be on the same page if we're all on board.

Our mission: Get the Republican nomination for Ron Paul.
Strategy: Obtaining majority delegates on our side at the Convention.
Tactic: Becoming Delegates and using this position to influence to get votes and vote in our favor, by any means possible.

Steps:
Think.
Plan.
Organize.
Act.
Win!







Do not retreat. Do not be afraid.

Steady mind.

Steadfast heart.

The battle will be fought in St. Paul, Minneapolis. September 1-4, 2008.

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Onward.

Deep Throat,

I want to say this thank you for your wonderful courage message.

I want to remind everyone to remember this flag.

We defeated the world most powerful and wealthiest military of England! We can do it, you only need to have a faith and courage to defeat anything.

Ron Paul will win, period.

 

[Henry]

As Judge Napolitano asked in his book (A Nation Of Sheep). Are you a sheep or a wolf?

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

A companion thread to this for collecting GOP rules state by state has been stickied, Please revisit your state rules and post them here

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121886

Just posted what I could find for Missouri. Unless the state GOP requires national delegates to sign an affidavit swearing to vote for a particular candidate, it does not appear there is any legal issue with breaking the "winner-take-all" GOP rule in Missouri.

 

[mczerone]

As Judge Napolitano asked in his book (A Nation Of Sheep). Are you a sheep or a wolf?

But therein lies the rub...

Sheep will be very careful to follow only sheep. Thus to lead, to gather the will of the people, many men are succumbed to the will of acting as a wolf in sheep's clothing in order to lead.

I choose to be Man, one who can lead and follow, one who can think for himself and choose to join a cause or to fight against it.

One goal of this movement should be to have more people join us as Men of agency - of choosing. I promise not to be a wolf if you promise not to be a sheep.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

How can we get this through peoples' heads???

As DT has said, "repetition"


"Unless this dangerous tendency be checked [towards monopolies and giant corporations being involved in politics] ... our social life will be disastrously demoralized [and] our political contests mere wrangles between different bands of public robbers, legislation only a matter of purchase and sale and the whole government a festering mass of corruption." - Schurtz, Carl

 

[Annie]

Delegates must be MORE than influential. Delegates must be more than a group whos job is merely to introduce talking points. What election of what year did we think we were fighting for and why? Dr. Paul said that he would run for president if he felt that this election was Americas last chance for freedom. He is exactly correct. This IS our last chance to restore this nation as a free people.

When do we see paid staff in the Ron Paul Campaign be the leadership we've been counting on since MAY 07. This revolution has been looking at the campaign to be the communication WING of the Revolution. We've been counting on them to do their NATIONAL homework and make the decisions based on a perspective that supporters don't have. Instead many hours and dollars are spent by thousands of regular full time working people trying to SLAY Goliath in the Mainstream Media. Millions of dollars should be enough to make RON PAUL raise from the Mainstream Media grave yard. TOP down leadership is critical in resending tyrannical executive orders that have been written by the hundreds by Junior since 2000. Our time MUST be now, this election. This tyranny is growing by the day. America is taking its last breath a free nation.

 

[Banana]

Just posted what I could find for Missouri. Unless the state GOP requires national delegates to sign an affidavit swearing to vote for a particular candidate, it does not appear there is any legal issue with breaking the "winner-take-all" GOP rule in Missouri.

Don't forget that going against an affidavit may be considered prejury or at least breach of contract in civil law. I'd want to check with a lawyer first. Besides, RNC could just call the convention invalid.

That said, can someone confirm that bound delegates doesn't get to vote at all as it will be read off a roll call? It doesn't seem to be on the party rules but has been mentioned somewhere here.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

Are there ever any abstentions or people who attend the national convention but are not present for a vote?

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[wowabunga]

Very bad idea! Unless there is a public outcry for switching candidates...

Sounds like we have double the amount of work to do between now and September. I'm dedicated to help push Ron Paul's message to the people who have yet heard. As Jefferson said; “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.”

 

[warispeace]

Delegates must be MORE than influential. Delegates must be more than a group whos job is merely to introduce talking points. What election of what year did we think we were fighting for and why? Dr. Paul said that he would run for president if he felt that this election was Americas last chance for freedom. He is exactly correct. This IS our last chance to restore this nation as a free people.

When do we see paid staff in the Ron Paul Campaign be the leadership we've been counting on since MAY 07. This revolution has been looking at the campaign to be the communication WING of the Revolution. We've been counting on them to do their NATIONAL homework and make the decisions based on a perspective that supporters don't have. Instead many hours and dollars are spent by thousands of regular full time working people trying to SLAY Goliath in the Mainstream Media. Millions of dollars should be enough to make RON PAUL raise from the Mainstream Media grave yard. TOP down leadership is critical in resending tyrannical executive orders that have been written by the hundreds by Junior since 2000. Our time MUST be now, this election. This tyranny is growing by the day. America is taking its last breath a free nation.

Absolutely correct. This is likely our last chance. Dr. Paul has said so himself many times, that we must act quickly. I was at the Denver rally on Feb. 1 and he said if we are not successful, the future of our country is bleak. I agree. If anyone has not read this article, please check it out. It is right on about what we will face if we fail in our mission to get RP elected. Very bleak indeed.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin75.htm

 

[pinkmandy]

We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the constitution. - Abe Lincoln

QFT

 

[Carole]

Especially after all the ways they have contrived to suppress Dr. Paul and his message.

 

[kyleAF]

Don't forget that going against an affidavit may be considered prejury or at least breach of contract in civil law. I'd want to check with a lawyer first. Besides, RNC could just call the convention invalid.

That said, can someone confirm that bound delegates doesn't get to vote at all as it will be read off a roll call? It doesn't seem to be on the party rules but has been mentioned somewhere here.

Don't know about the affidavit part, but here's the other answer:

RULE NO. 37
Roll Call

(b) In the balloting, the vote of each state shall be announced by the chairman of such state's delegation, or his or her designee; and in case the vote of any state shall be divided, the chairman shall announce the number of votes for each candidate, or for or against any proposition; but if exception is taken by any delegate from that state to the correctness of such announcement by the chairman of that delegation, the chairman of the convention shall direct the roll of members of such delegation to be called, and the result shall be recorded in accordance with the vote of the several delegates in such delegation.

http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm

Someone just has to say: "I take exception to the official tally" and an actual count will be conducted for that state... this count is the official result.

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

Don't forget that going against an affidavit may be considered prejury or at least breach of contract in civil law. I'd want to check with a lawyer first. Besides, RNC could just call the convention invalid.

True. I don't know that MO GOP requires an affidavit from national delegates, I was only speculating what they might mean by "pledged". The only word used in all the documentation available online is "pledged", but it does not mention what that means, specifically.

 

[Carole]

The AG and Board of Elections are part of the problem, too. You do not want to tip them off to what you are up to.

Be careful how you research so that it does not become known-common knowledge to the wrong people. Stealth mode seems advisable.

Trust no one.

Great thread BTW.

 

[pinkmandy]

Question...

Could we have on hand evidence of vote fraud in many states, vote irregularities, and if they call us invalid could we retort that the delegate process itself was invalid because of said irregularities? We could pull up A LOT of examples, kwim?

 

[billjarrett]

The AG and Board of Elections are part of the problem, too. You do not want to tip them off to what you are up to.

Be careful how you research so that it does not become known-common knowledge to the wrong people. Stealth mode seems advisable.

Trust no one.

Great thread BTW.

Maybe start a username locked sub forum for people who the mods can verify as delegates? Interesting for the rest of us, but not need to know for the inside the GOP stuff. The how to be a delegate stuff can stay out here.

 

[hillertexas]

Reminder for people who cannot be delegates:
8000 volunteers needed at the RNC !!
http://www.gopconvention.com/volunteers/default.aspx

Also, I agree about being stealthy about our planning

 

[DeepThroat]

7,492 views on the thread in two days. Interesting.

My guess, some of the visitors are friends, some McCain & Huckabee operatives, others the RNC.

Everyone should use discretion when posting and not let your guard down. Do not disclose pertinent information.

I will keep a data base.

When you have a secured the delegate position for the National Convention, send me a private message. Please do not post it.

You do no have to give me your name.

Submit:
The state
Number of delegates in your state
Bound or Unbound
How many votes you are bound for
Any pertinent information

Those members of the forum that have been members prior to my starting this thread will go in one data base. Newly registered members will go in a separate data base, in case any of them are moles. The files can later be merged.

Prior to the convention, I will connect you with the other delegates in your state unless you request otherwise. This will give you opportunity to discuss any strategies particular to your state and know who is working with you.