How to Win the Convention- REAL REVOLUTION

[billjarrett]

Actually, we can do both. No reason you can't sign up and actually go to cause problems.

No reason you can't sign up and protest outside, or hang out on your lazyboy either.

Basically make it an HR nightmare.

Imagine expecting 8000, getting 1000, and having half of them being agent provocateurs. lol

Edit: Although this suggestion is WAY out there, wonder if we could enlist the talents of http://www.improveverywhere.com/ lol

Thinking more about this. This wouldn't just be a Ron Paul effort, in fact, best not to put his name on it at all.

We could make new friends with the Hucksters and the Democrats, and anyone else with a few minutes and an internet connection.

 

[fight4liberty]

I like the idea of the March being at the convention

or the march can be AT the convention.

What about this idea? Sounds interesting.

Even if we had a big one earlier at DC what about having a mini-march (5000 or so) at the convention with signs T-shirts, etc.

It could influence or soften leaner dissatisfied delegates!

 

[Revolution9]

What about this idea? Sounds interesting.

Even if we had a big one earlier at DC what about having a mini-march (5000 or so) at the convention with signs T-shirts, etc.

It could influence or soften leaner dissatisfied delegates!

There will be way more than 5000 at ST PAUL Minneapolis (the city of the Goddess of LOVE). After all..this one goes down in the history books for all time..

Best
Randy

 

[Penners]

Questions and comment for DeepThroat.

First, I thank God that you joined this forum and made your post. And I thank YOU. Your words have renewed my hope and determination.

My questions are:

(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.

 

[DeepThroat]

Questions and comment for DeepThroat.

First, I thank God that you joined this forum and made your post. And I thank YOU. Your words have renewed my hope and determination.

My questions are:

(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.

Thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear that I have been able to help you and hopefully others, maintain your strength, will and determination.

To answer your questions.

(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
I hope to remain here for as long as it takes, as long as my presence will be useful and welcomed and, hopefully until victory.

(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
Not for any reason that I could rationally define. Maybe it's because as a new poster, I felt a bit of separation from you as a group. Maybe it was for dramatic effect and just writing style. Perhaps because behind this wall of anonymity, it is easier for me to convey my message by slightly distancing myself. After all, I have essentially advocated winning the Convention by attrition numbers and any means possible. That would make me a bit of a heretic within the party. There is no dishonorable intention and I did not even realize that my writing could be misconstrued in any other manner than how I intended to be.

Please make no mistake. I support Ron Paul, always have. I am on your side.

(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.
I believe there are other parts of the forum that are specific to each state.

One of the posters on this board has given me the link to a site that ironically, has been designed with the intention of something like this. Talk about lucky breaks!

Isn't it great that RPaul supporters have all these resources at their disposal. It's just a matter of being able to connect the dots and build the tower.

Each state will have their own Editor and will have to be registered as such. I leave that up to the webmaster to determine how he will weed out any moles. He is probably familiar with the screen names from this forum.

http://newr3volution.com/

Part of inspiring is to also keep people engaged and making certain that people understand. I hope to do this by taking it one step at a time. Nothing would be worse than losing people because they were unable to grasp the concept.

Hope this answered your questions.

 

[FreeTraveler]

There will be way more than 5000 at ST PAUL Minneapolis (the city of the Goddess of LOVE). After all..this one goes down in the history books for all time..

Best
Randy

PLEASE, if you're going to St. Paul as a protester, spend some time researching the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968, and BE PREPARED for whatever TPTB decide to try. They've had 40 years to improve their weapons and to get nastier and meaner. VIDEO TAPE EVERYTHING! A live video feed so they can't confiscate the recording is almost a requirement.

Short version: lots of injuries, lots of bogus arrests for "inciting violence" when it was the police and agent provocateurs that actually caused the incidents.

Note that the "Chicago Seven" were eventually cleared of all charges, but they spent lots of time in jail and lots of money on lawyers before they got there.

 

[Thomas Paine]

It's a shame the campaign has devolved to this. Those incompetents in HQ really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by blowing it in Iowa and NH when they had a $20 Million warchest that was 400% greater than McCain's at the time.

 

[DeepThroat]

It's a shame the campaign has devolved to this. Those incompetents in HQ really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by blowing it in Iowa and NH when they had a $20 Million warchest that was 400% greater than McCain's at the time.

I understand your frustration. What's done is done.

The very thing that helped make this campaign so spirited has also been its greatest obstacle. No other major campaign would have allowed supporters to act on their own behalf and work independently from the HQs. Direction always come from central station. The decision making was not in our hands.

We can discuss the plus and minuses of the HQs until we're blue in the face, but we must recognize that it is what it is.

When our minds become clouded, remember the mission. Win the Convention.

Stay on course.

 

[orp]

A Ron Paul sweep

Hmm. I just thought of something. GOP is relying on these volunteers. We seem to be good at, as we've proved many times, "spamming". I wonder if we could start a convention volunteer no show campaign. There would be really no way to sort out those that will show and those that won't. But, could you imagine expecting 8000 volunteers and having 500-1000 actually show up? Just throwing that out there.

My preference would be to have 8,000 Ron Paul supporters volunteer, show up and spend their time enthusiastically supporting Ron Paul. You just can't have too many Ron Paul supporters "on the inside" during the convention.

If you can't be a delegate, you can always be a volunteer and STORM THAT CONVENTION! In every way possible, we need to strive to "own it".....

 

[molly_pitcher]

I would like to interject some of my own experiences here, if I may.

After Stooper Tuesday, I headed the voices of fellow supporters who asked that we mobilize and began working. I stepped away from my computer and stepped outside into the cold and began talking to people. I quickly realized that this was one election in which my only allies were people like me, people with strength, common sense, and scruples.

People will listen, the trick is to discover what they are about, and capitalize on how Ron Paul helps them.

First question: What party is he from? I always state, "he reaches across party lines. People in all parties are voting for him because he represents..." (insert: goodness, common sense, personal liberties- whatever may grab that particular person). I have found that immediately crowning him Republican makes some walk away, who could otherwise spread the message.

Example: The farmer. I'm in a rural area and use the slim jim dedicated to farmers specifically. On that slim jim, they talk about the electronic tagging, which can turn into a discussion on the REAL ID as we discuss how this could be implemented in humans, and it can go on and on.

Middle-Aged people seem to enjoy the health-care issue.

Soldiers and Vets are given the correlating slim jim.

I make sure I drop Prodigy's name to our youth and African American's.

Paul has something for everyone! Learn to win friends and influence enemies! A happy smile and a clean look go a long way with people. Everyone wants to hear his message, even if they don't realize it.

 

[JimInNY]

Each state will have their own Editor and will have to be registered as such. I leave that up to the webmaster to determine how he will weed out any moles. He is probably familiar with the screen names from this forum.

http://newr3volution.com/

The only real plan I have to eliminate moles at this point is to keep tabs on what gets posted by editors, and constantly create db backups in case of internal attack. I'm really not sure of any other effective way to combat infiltration.

Suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Revolution9]

PLEASE, if you're going to St. Paul as a protester, spend some time researching the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968, and BE PREPARED for whatever TPTB decide to try. They've had 40 years to improve their weapons and to get nastier and meaner. VIDEO TAPE EVERYTHING! A live video feed so they can't confiscate the recording is almost a requirement.

Short version: lots of injuries, lots of bogus arrests for "inciting violence" when it was the police and agent provocateurs that actually caused the incidents.

Note that the "Chicago Seven" were eventually cleared of all charges, but they spent lots of time in jail and lots of money on lawyers before they got there.

Those same clowns are behind the Obama machine at the local level there. I know well what goes on.. I am a chlld of the sixties. Lets say if i had a degree in this it would be a Master of Arts. I intend to make sure folks do not get trapped in such scenarios.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

I was on the road, in the process of moving (very slowly-lol) from HI to NY, when the whole delegate selection process was going on here. From my reading of this link,

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/law/2007PPBallotAccessCalendar.pdf

It looks like there is no way for me to get inside with-out volunteering. So that is what I intend on doing.

I wonder at those who always think of any gathering as a "protest". Going somewhere to show support is not protesting. IMO - Republicans that plan on protesting a Republican event are planning on shooting themselves in the foot

 

[IPSecure]

Could we possibly influence the cab drivers and the hotel transport people to maybe or maybe not have break-downs, take a wrong turn, etc... depending on who the riders support is for?

When in Rome....

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Could we possibly influence the cab drivers and the hotel transport people to maybe or maybe not have break-downs, take a wrong turn, etc... depending on who the riders support is for?

When in Rome....

Beware of BlowBack!!!

“The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos, both his own and the enemies.”
Napoleon Bonaparte

 

[FreeTraveler]

I was on the road, in the process of moving (very slowly-lol) from HI to NY, when the whole delegate selection process was going on here. From my reading of this link,

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/law/2007PPBallotAccessCalendar.pdf

It looks like there is no way for me to get inside with-out volunteering. So that is what I intend on doing.

I wonder at those who always think of any gathering as a "protest". Going somewhere to show support is not protesting. IMO - Republicans that plan on protesting a Republican event are planning on shooting themselves in the foot

My bad. I agree the word "protest" was ill-chosen. Support is a better word. That does not negate the need for extra care knowing they will be hoping to cast the supporters in the worst possible negative light, and will do whatever they need to make that happen.

 

[LEK]

Not trying to de-rail this thread just wanted an opinion from Deep Throat about the write-in option :
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121587

Thanks.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Could we possibly influence the cab drivers and the hotel transport people to maybe or maybe not have break-downs, take a wrong turn, etc... depending on who the riders support is for?

When in Rome....

Not that I'm advocating anything, but you should never involve third parties in any form of "pranking" because if they can be bought, someone else can always pay more.

If a Ron Paul supporter ends up as a bus driver and gets lost with a whole group of McCain delegates from some hotel, that's between him and his ability to follow a map, not between him, the media, and some bus driver who says he was bribed to get lost.

Just sayin'...

 

[NEPA_Revolution]

The bus driver took a wrong turn at albuquerque eh?

 

[Highstreet]

I am a Republican and am within the party.

I have seen the belly of the beast.

Many of us in the party are angry about what has happened. We know the game.

Romney's people will never do it. Giuliani's people will never do it. They are beholden to the party. Only you can and will.

Your campaign has been taken off course. Whether you realize it or not, your opportunity to win the nomination is now greater than ever. Take hold of the reigns.

Steady mind and steady planning.

Huckabee is your saving grace for he will drive the wedge within the party line. Do not be sidetracked. Do not be despondent. Do not be afraid.

Win.

The focus now, should be to receive delegate votes at the Convention. Ideally, the RPHQs should be working with you to bring delegates on board. They probably are not doing this so it is up to you.

It is the delegates and only the delegates that will determine the winner of the Republican nomination. McCain and Huckabee's campaign know this and they are working in this direction. You should be too.

Unbound delegates may vote for whom they like.

Bound delegates may hope for a brokered convention, or they may choose to go in opposition of party rules and vote for the candidate of their choice.

One thing is for sure. You will never be able to vote for RP if you are not there as a delegate.

Does a Revolution wilt away at the first sign of defeat? No.

YOU are your only hope for the future. This is your opportunity to win and only RP supporters have the fortitude to do it. This should be the direction you work in. It is not over.

Think.
Plan.
Organize.
Act.
Win!

Good luck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4HW3I82lg

Welcome to the forums.

HQ is finally caught up to the Grassroots.
https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/delegatesignup.php