How to lose a Ron Paul vote!!!

[fedup100]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/30-day-plan.html

I couldn't believe this piece on Lew Rockwell. I can tell you this, if # 10 on his list is supported by Ron Paul, I will not vote for him.

Neither will thousands of patriots in this country that understand that no government is going to put a gps system on them, control where they travel and then send them a monthly bill.

This will hurt Mr. Paul beyond measure if he does not reject this openly and swiftly.

The GOD of glory has made me a free person and that includes the right to travel freely, all else is to exchange one Big Brother for another.

 

[ZackM]

I think you misread it.

DAY TEN: The interstate highways reopen as private businesses. Road entrepreneurs price travel according to consumer demand. Using modern technology, drivers get bills once a month. Credit risks – and drunks and dangerous drivers – aren't allowed on the road. Non-drivers no longer subsidize car owners.

Notice the roads are owned by private business. There was absolutely no suggestion of government involvement whatsoever.

 

[FluffyUnbound]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/30-day-plan.html

I couldn't believe this piece on Lew Rockwell. I can tell you this, if # 10 on his list is supported by Ron Paul, I will not vote for him.

Neither will thousands of patriots in this country that understand that no government is going to put a gps system on them, control where they travel and then send them a monthly bill.

This will hurt Mr. Paul beyond measure if he does not reject this openly and swiftly.

The GOD of glory has made me a free person and that includes the right to travel freely, all else is to exchange one Big Brother for another.

If the highways were privatized, you wouldn't HAVE to use EZpass. You could just wait in line to pay a toll if you insisted. I think the inclusion of a "fast and easy" sounding technological billing system is meant to make privatizing roadways sound simple, and not intended to mark you with the number of the beast or anything.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Reread it.

Interstates would not be handled by the gov't, they'd be handled by private entities.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

The GOD of glory has made me a free person and that includes the right to travel freely, all else is to exchange one Big Brother for another.

Y'know I hear this all the time. "I have the God given right to travel freely". Yes, you do but that right does not entitle you to any and every mode of transportation. You have the right to walk. You have the right to buy a car, but that doesn't mean you can drive it on my property without my permission.

This really has nothing to do with the OP. The prevalent interpretation of the right to travel just bugs me.

 

[constituent]

then what's the problem with the TRANS-TEXAS CORRIDOR?

 

[Green Mountain Boy]

That's actually what's beginning to happen now at a greater and greater rate. Big foreign (and domestic) companies are buying pieces of infrastructure like highways, turnpikes and bridges.

 

[constituent]

I love that credit risks wouldn't be allowed...

uh yea, so all you piss ants that can't pay your bills can just f* off. here, suck on my exhaust pipe.


i do say, good form mr. rockwell. would you like another crumpet?

 

[im_a_pepper]

That piece is cited from another article published 16 years ago and is not necessarily Ron's plan at all. It should have been something we started back then. I'm sure most of this plan has to be adjusted to fit our current situations, social and technical, that have changed. I'm pretty sure it was meant to sound "radical".

 

[BuddyRey]

The most important tenet of my personal, political philosophy is that corporatism is just as dangerous as Statism. If private interests can take over public works like roads/tolls, etc. and leby unfair taxes, then it's no better than state or local government levying unfair taxes against its citizenry. I urge all patriots to say no to Fascism, just as you would say no to Socialism.

 

[hard@work]

I don't see how I could tolerate privitized roads, I already disagree heavily with EZ Pass.

 

[SewrRatt]

I don't see how I could tolerate privitized roads, I already disagree heavily with EZ Pass.

It's helpful to remember that any private entity would have an incentive to make their roads tolerable, if not pleasant. Without government protection, they could and would be replaced if they were providing a bad service. Government has no such incentive.

 

[Oddball]

I don't see how I could tolerate privitized roads, I already disagree heavily with EZ Pass.

EZ Pass and other such toll schemes aren't private roads. They're a new way for gubmint to make peeps pay for not being PC by car pooling.

 

[Spike Kojima]

The GOD of glory has made me a free person and that includes the right to travel freely, all else is to exchange one Big Brother for another.

Jeez are you guys so eager to throw Ron under the bus for one article that doesn't even mention his name once.
I think he has earned a bit more than that.

 

[recess]

If you go to Lewrockwell.com and look under the "Ron Paul File" and under "Articles about Ron Paul on LRC" I think it links Ron Paul to those Ideas in the article which i think could hurt him in the long run.When Ron Paul starts rocking the primaries the MSM will try to smear him as an extremist with some of the views that are expressed in this artcle. I mean they have already tried to do it with the racism and earmark shit. I think stuff like this could be a future liability to Ron Paul.

I think most americans would be very turned off by selling all public lands to the highest bidder and talk of privatizing all roads.

 

[Slugg]

then what's the problem with the TRANS-TEXAS CORRIDOR?

The problem with the TTC (and the NAFTA super highway) is the fact that government is taking people's land to give it to private business. If it was 100% privatized, the companies would have to buy the land, and the people could say no if they wanted. Now, people can't say no. They can just take it.

 

[Slugg]

The most important tenet of my personal, political philosophy is that corporatism is just as dangerous as Statism. If private interests can take over public works like roads/tolls, etc. and leby unfair taxes, then it's no better than state or local government levying unfair taxes against its citizenry. I urge all patriots to say no to Fascism, just as you would say no to Socialism.

If all interstate roads were privatized, what you would see is two things:
1) No eminent domain cases. Land used for roads would have to be purchased; and the land owner could say NO (this in my opinion is the biggest reason for getting the government out of interstate building)
2) Your interstates would be more useful. Instead of Government choosing the path of the interstate, companies could use cost analysis to decide the direction of a road. This will divert private roads to more useful areas (so you use them more). It will be more efficient and will only be paid by those who use it.



Corporatism cannot exist in a free market. Corporatism only exists if government protects the interest of corporations. Just imagine if we didn't bail out any big business. All the bad one's would be left by the wayside while the honest one's would continue. More importantly, with out government involvement, small/medium companies could provide true competition, this will undercut the corporations and prevent them from gaining too much power.

If our goal is to squash government and prevent an Oligarchy, then free market is the only option. Sometimes it sounds extreme, but it really works. There are literally MILLIONS of entrepreneurs who are not evil people, who want to provide honest goods and services, and who will contribute to society. These good people get squeezed out by over-regulation. So, only the dirty crummy entrepreneurs end up making it to the top. Shit floats.

If everyone had to compete at an equal level, only the honest would survive over the long haul.

 

[drednot]

The most important tenet of my personal, political philosophy is that corporatism is just as dangerous as Statism. If private interests can take over public works like roads/tolls, etc. and leby unfair taxes, then it's no better than state or local government levying unfair taxes against its citizenry. I urge all patriots to say no to Fascism, just as you would say no to Socialism.

If you think private roads would be expensive, think about what you pay now:

Over 40 cents on every gallon of gas is taken by government! That's over ten times the profit margins of the oil companies per gallon! And in this case, you can't just switch to a cheaper route to work, there's no avoiding it.

All that gas tax is supposed to go toward road upkeep, but if you believe that you are beyond gullible.

Existing public roads shouldn't be turned over to big corporations (local community organizations should own them), but private firms should be allowed to build their own toll roads. I doubt that even the sleaziest corporations will be able to maneuver you into paying even 5 cents a gallon worth of tolls for road use.

If collections of nearby municipalities want to work together and require a shared EZ pass-like system for cheap, fast usage of their roads, I have no problem with that.

 

[born2drv]

I love that credit risks wouldn't be allowed...

uh yea, so all you piss ants that can't pay your bills can just f* off. here, suck on my exhaust pipe.


i do say, good form mr. rockwell. would you like another crumpet?

uuuuh... no.... some other private entity will see a need for 40% of the population to use the road as well... and they'll just make a business of paying your bills for you and sending people to your house to break your legs if you don't pay and so forth

 

[Anti Federalist]

If nothing else, RP follows the Constitution, that should be clear.

Section 8 of the Constitution delegates the power to Congress to establish post roads.

The maintence of roads, waterways and such, to my mind, falls under the limited authority of Congress.

To sell off said roads to the highest foriegn bidder would be/is a, travesty.

I'd be pretty sure RP agrees.