How to Circumvent the Average Voter?

[DJH73]

Lets face it. The average voter does not get it, they will never get it. We have hoards of "Conservatives" backing Trump. This should show us how difficult it is to inspire these people with the message of liberty. Its as if they intentionally reject it over pride in their "party". When Ron Paul ran in 2012, we started to see a glimmer of hope that some awakening might be taking place as to the message of liberty and freedom. What happened? Was it drowned out once again by the media and its message of fear and hate? And lets call it for what it is. Our corporate run media is not about peace and love. It IS about fear and hate. And Im not saying we shouldn't defend ourselves against a legitimate threat, but what we have been doing is crazy, and the voters love the taste of blood it seems.

We know what is right and what is wrong. What can we do to counter this?

 

[thoughtomator]

drink heavily

Seriously, though, it's never been more obvious to me that the will of the people is for tyranny and war and bread and circuses. That's what the people of this country genuinely want. And you can't impose liberty on them against their will without violating the very liberty you aim to provide.

 

[Anti Federalist]

drink heavily

Seriously, though, it's never been more obvious to me that the will of the people is for tyranny and war and bread and circuses. That's what the people of this country genuinely want. And you can't impose liberty on them against their will without violating the very liberty you aim to provide.

I dunno about that.

Seems to me, they have violated the NAP and I have a right to defend myself against them and they state they enable, regardless of what idiot AmeriKa wants.

They can have liberty, tyranny or FOAD as far as I'm concerned.

They unleashed a monster on me and my family ten times worse than a criminal attack.

 

[Rad]

Hack the voting machines and fix the results.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Vote harder, early and often?

 

[willwash]

Universal suffrage does NOT work.

 

[timosman]

Promise them free stuff.

 

[Ronin Truth]

What was the last national election where the non voters weren't the majority?

Majority rule?

 

[CarPi]

How to Circumvent the Average Voter

I was just wondering on how much the average cinematographer make in an amature feature film?

 

[MelissaWV]

Universal suffrage does NOT work.

Criminals, "children," members of territories... not very universal.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

drink heavily

Seriously, though, it's never been more obvious to me that the will of the people is for tyranny and war and bread and circuses. That's what the people of this country genuinely want. And you can't impose liberty on them against their will without violating the very liberty you aim to provide.

They have no right to impose Tyranny on others, if you want to be slave, great, but the second you try and place chains me you become an aggressor.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Universal suffrage does NOT work.

More proof that founders were right.

 

[TheNewYorker]

We should go back to the system of the 1700's where only landowners could vote

 

[TommyJeff]

We should go back to the system of the 1700's where only landowners could vote

+1

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Liberty and democracy are fundamentally incompatible; a democratic state will, in the long, inevitably move toward socialism.

This is not to say that groups such as ours can't have successes in electoral politics; they can, but they won't be lasting.

The only lasting solution is to return to non-democratic government (such as monarchy).

For the time being, however, since I see no prospect of abolishing democracy, I'm committed to working within the democratic process to accomplish what we can.

As to that, democratic politics are basically about money and media (which is indirectly about money). Whoever has the most under his control tends to win.

We don't have the most money and media, and we're not likely to in the future.

So, we have to play the game smarter than our opponents; what this means varies on a case by case basis.

There's no magic bullet, got to just keep chugging away, trial and error.

P.S. Also, education has its limits. See: the bell curve. We need to educate enough people to build a hardcore cadre (we've done a pretty good job of this), but once that's built, the focus has to be on persuading the masses, which is not a matter of rational argumentation. For an idea of how you get people to vote for your candidate, when they know absolutely nothing about the issues or his stances on them, watch FOX.

 

[Zippyjuan]

We could impose a dictatorship and ban voting for un- approved candidates.

 

[MelissaWV]

We should go back to the system of the 1700's where only landowners could vote

There aren't many actual landowners, and that entire notion is based on the idea that most people don't know what's good for them. I would amend it to be net taxpayers, personally. If your money is confiscated for this nasty system, then you should have a say in how it's spent. That's still perverse as hell (I robbed you, but before I flee, what do you want me to spend it on?), but it preserves the idea that you have a say if you have a stake. If you don't pay taxes, or only receive benefits, or some other version of things, then you definitely don't get a say in how OTHERS' money is spent.

 

[cajuncocoa]

There aren't many actual landowners, and that entire notion is based on the idea that most people don't know what's good for them. I would amend it to be net taxpayers, personally. If your money is confiscated for this nasty system, then you should have a say in how it's spent. That's still perverse as hell (I robbed you, but before I flee, what do you want me to spend it on?), but it preserves the idea that you have a say if you have a stake. If you don't pay taxes, or only receive benefits, or some other version of things, then you definitely don't get a say in how OTHERS' money is spent.

+1

 

[timosman]

There aren't many actual landowners, and that entire notion is based on the idea that most people don't know what's good for them. I would amend it to be net taxpayers, personally. If your money is confiscated for this nasty system, then you should have a say in how it's spent. That's still perverse as hell (I robbed you, but before I flee, what do you want me to spend it on?), but it preserves the idea that you have a say if you have a stake. If you don't pay taxes, or only receive benefits, or some other version of things, then you definitely don't get a say in how OTHERS' money is spent.

Would this need more than a strike of a pen from POTUS?

 

[jkob]

Demagogue for liberty, fight fire with fire.

Trump should be an education, it's not the base voters we need to side step but rather the media and intelligentsia that control their opinions. \

We have to be more extreme