How socialist is China?

[Kombaiyashii]

I heard on a tv program that England was now more socialist than china is. This is obviously hard to believe so I tried to do a little bit of digging to see what percentage of china is run by government bodies...

It's pretty easy to find how much Britains run by the governmet (about 55%)...

I found a link which said China is actually at 40% Is this true? If it is, should we start calling ourselves communist Britain?

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/38744

 

[One Last Battle!]

Well, in all practical terms, you don't "buy" land in China, you "lease" it from the government for 100 years. A very archaic land ownership system, to say the least.

 

[00_Pete]

Its corporate-socialism just like we in the West, they just keep the "cultural marxism" out of their media and culture because they know its destructive and makes society weak and they also maintain the "Red/Maoist" act because of "proudness", so they dont have to admit that Mao was indeed a douchebag promoting a imbecile unworkable ideology.

 

[muzzled dogg]

ive never experienced capitalism until i visited shanghai

 

[00_Pete]

ive never experienced capitalism until i visited shanghai

Get out of the "pretty" areas of Shanghai and you will experience theirs (and ours) corporate-socialism...

 

[muzzled dogg]

yeah i'm out and experiencing ours

 

[Texan4Life]

there was in interesting episode where john stossel tried starting a business here and in china. unfortunately I haven't found a tube of it yet.

 

[erowe1]

Who cares?

Our enemy isn't socialism. It's statism. Regardless of who owns the means of production and how redistributionist their policies are, China is a mess.

 

[angelatc]

there was in interesting episode where john stossel tried starting a business here and in china. unfortunately I haven't found a tube of it yet.

Stossel started his business in Hong Kong, which is technically CHina but run on a different economic model than the mainland. China has virtually no property rights, so it's hardly something to hold up as an example of a free market success. It is an example of how more freedom equates to more prosperity though. Here's an article from 2007 that points out some changes that accelerated their growth: http://www.economist.com/node/8815075?story_id=8815075 - one of the changes enabled businessmen to join the Party. That doesn't sound like capitalism as much as it sounds like the beginnings of the corporatism we've grown here.

 

[Mike4Freedom]

The only reason china is a successful producing nation today is due to our everreaching government destroying our free market with regulations and taxation. If we had a true constitutional government our economy would still be the worlds leading. We have just been slowly bled out by our own federal reserve and the IMF in a sick twisted sort of world socialism.

 

[Freedom 4 all]

Who cares?

Our enemy isn't socialism. It's statism. Regardless of who owns the means of production and how redistributionist their policies are, China is a mess.

I agree, but I look at it as saying more about England than it does about China. China is a filthy hellhole, that much is beyond debate, but this points to the danger of countries like England turning into China-like Orwellian nightmares.