How often do you eat healthy food?

[heavenlyboy34]

Those are all surveys. No control group study has ever found a connection. Organic is just a scam to part fools and money.

Depends on context. It's common for some produce to use the "organic" label as a scam, but WRT meat, dairy, and eggs, your food is as good as what you eat was fed and treated-so organic is worth a little more there.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Those are all surveys. No control group study has ever found a connection.

No. Taking blood is not a survey. Either way, you say there is "no evidence that organic food is healthier than conventional food." I just showed you some evidence.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

More evidence of the benefits of organic.

Higher antioxidant and lower cadmium concentrations and lower incidence of pesticide residues in organically grown crops: a systematic literature review and meta-analyses
Br J Nutr. 2014 Sep 14; 112(5): 794–811.
In conclusion, organic crops, on average, have higher concentrations of antioxidants, lower concentrations of Cd and a lower incidence of pesticide residues than the non-organic comparators across regions and production seasons.


Higher Antioxidant Activity, Total Flavonols, and Specific Quercetin Glucosides in Two Different Onion (Allium cepa L.) Varieties Grown under Organic Production: Results from a 6-Year Field Study
J. Agric. Food Chem., 2017, 65 (25), pp 5122–5132
Antioxidant activity (DPPH and FRAP), total flavonol content, and levels of Q 3,4' D and Q 3 G were higher in both varieties under fully organic compared to fully conventional management. Total flavonoids were higher in 'Red Baron' and when onions were grown under organic soil treatment.


Are organic foods safer or healthier than conventional alternatives?: a systematic review
Ann Intern Med. 2012 Sep 4;157(5):348-66.
The risk for isolating bacteria resistant to 3 or more antibiotics was higher in conventional than in organic chicken and pork (risk difference, 33% [CI, 21% to 45%]).

 

[Anti Globalist]

I haven't ate food the last 3 years. I'm still fasting.

 

[dannno]

Those are all surveys. No control group study has ever found a connection. Organic is just a scam to part fools and money.

Organic Certification is a government program, and as you know most of us around here don't like government programs.

But as far as nutrition, you want your fruits and vegetables to be grown with a lot of nutrients and not a lot of potentially unhealthy chemical byproducts.

Organic Certified growing is more about what you DON'T use and less about what you do use. Because of that, there is no guarentee that organic foods will be particularly healthy. If you grow organic food in unhealthy soil and don't provide enough nutrients, then you soak it in organic herbicides and pesticides, you probably won't end up with a particularly healthy product. You could compare it to non-organic produce grown in relatively healthy soil that uses few chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides and find that you end up with a healthier plant that is non-organic.

However, on average, you will find that organic produce is healthier than non. That is because organic farmers tend to focus on giving the plants all of the nutrients they need by producing a healthy soil, instead of just spraying on the N's P's and K's thereby depleting the rest of the nutrients in the soil.

Healthy plants don't need as much herbicides and pesticides. Not to mention you can grow other plants near by that help with those things, instead of spraying them.

 

[angelatc]

Depends on context. It's common for some produce to use the "organic" label as a scam, but WRT meat, dairy, and eggs, your food is as good as what you eat was fed and treated-so organic is worth a little more there.

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There is no evidence that organic food is healthier than conventional food.

 

[angelatc]

Organic Certification is a government program, and as you know most of us around here don't like government programs.

But as far as nutrition, you want your fruits and vegetables to be grown with a lot of nutrients and not a lot of potentially unhealthy chemical byproducts.

Organic Certified growing is more about what you DON'T use and less about what you do use. Because of that, there is no guarentee that organic foods will be particularly healthy. If you grow organic food in unhealthy soil and don't provide enough nutrients, then you soak it in organic herbicides and pesticides, you probably won't end up with a particularly healthy product. You could compare it to non-organic produce grown in relatively healthy soil that uses few chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides and find that you end up with a healthier plant that is non-organic.

However, on average, you will find that organic produce is healthier than non. That is because organic farmers tend to focus on giving the plants all of the nutrients they need by producing a healthy soil, instead of just spraying on the N's P's and K's thereby depleting the rest of the nutrients in the soil.

Healthy plants don't need as much herbicides and pesticides. Not to mention you can grow other plants near by that help with those things, instead of spraying them.

I notice you forgot to include any sources for your contentions. Which is because it's a bunch of nonsense . Healthy plants get destroyed by insects and disease on a regular basis, which is why organic farmers use chemicals. Freaking nasty ass worms were considered just a part of corn until Bt was developed.

Chemicals organic farmers use are more toxic than the chemicals that conventional farmers use these days. But who cares about science, when you think you have a moral high ground.

 

[oyarde]

I eat healthy food a couple times a day even if I dont need it . I also like healthy bourbon , beers etc

 

[dannno]

I notice you forgot to include any sources for your contentions. Which is because it's a bunch of nonsense . Healthy plants get destroyed by insects and disease on a regular basis, which is why organic farmers use chemicals. Freaking nasty ass worms were considered just a part of corn until Bt was developed.

Chemicals organic farmers use are more toxic than the chemicals that conventional farmers use these days. But who cares about science, when you think you have a moral high ground.

LOL... Bt is an organic pesticide. I've used it before to keep caterpillars of my outdoor weed plants. Of course healthy plants can have issues with pests, but they are much more resistant.

 

[Stratovarious]

Why bother with organically grown food , pesticides today are so safe
that you can drink a glass of them with no problems.
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[angelatc]

More evidence of the benefits of organic.

I can only assume there's a reason you aren't including actual links.

 

[angelatc]

Why bother with organically grown food , pesticides today are so safe
that you can drink a glass of them with no problems.
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God I wish I wasn't addicted to these forums. It's like trying to teach special ed children, where there's never any real progress but we continue to go over the same things again and again and again like it's the first time we've ever seen it. But here, since you're apparently not into science and are into vidiot presentations, here:

 

[angelatc]

LOL... Bt is an organic pesticide. I've used it before to keep caterpillars of my outdoor weed plants. Of course healthy plants can have issues with pests, but they are much more resistant.

Then why does Bt corn trigger DonnaY. since it's natural?

But you ignored the link, which contains a whole bunch of links that disprove pretty much everything you said.....

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I can only assume there's a reason you aren't including actual links.

They're on Medline, CINAHL, and PubMed. You need a subscription to Medline and CINAHL for all full text, but PubMed is on the internet.

 

[donnay]

LOL... Bt is an organic pesticide. I've used it before to keep caterpillars of my outdoor weed plants. Of course healthy plants can have issues with pests, but they are much more resistant.

There is a natural Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), and then there is the one engineered in a lab and genetically modified into Corn. Most people think they are the same, but they are not.

 

[dannno]

Then why does Bt corn trigger DonnaY. since it's natural?

LMGTFY

The difference between the Bt used by organic farmers around the world and that genetically inserted into Monsanto’s corn is dramatic. Naturally occurring Bt is contained within the bacterium. The Bt gene inserted into genetically-modified corn contains only the final toxin without its containment. Bt has a short half life when exposed to sunlight and the elements. By the time the insects that have consumed it are gone, so is the Bt. Its genetic counterpoint persists within the corn. Insects have developed immunity to the genetically-modified Bt–containing corn when the GMO corn has, against best agricultural practice, been planted in the same plot year after year. Targeted use of Bt insect control products used on appropriately managed plots have not resulted in insect resistance. Depending on which strain is used, Bt continues to be effective on cabbage worms, tent caterpillars, potato beetles, mosquitoes, black fly and a variety of other insect pests.

https://www.planetnatural.com/bacillus-thuringiensis/

But you ignored the link, which contains a whole bunch of links that disprove pretty much everything you said.....

The links don't disprove what I said, what I said explains why there is misinformation in your links.

 

[angelatc]

LMGTFY



https://www.planetnatural.com/bacillus-thuringiensis/





The links don't disprove what I said, what I said explains why there is misinformation in your links.

Let's be honest - it's pretty clear you didn't actually read it.

 

[tommyrp12]

If you enjoy biology and ecology...………

I still have to get the microbes and fungi editions.

 

[dannno]

Let's be honest - you didn't actually read it.

I've read it before - and the logic stands. They do a study showing there is no difference between organic and non-organic. Well, I explained precisely how that can occur, even though organic is on the whole a far better and more sustainable way to grow fruit and vegetables.

 

[angelatc]

I've read it before - and the logic stands. They do a study showing there is no difference between organic and non-organic. Well, I explained precisely how that can occur, even though organic is on the whole a far better and more sustainable way to grow fruit and vegetables.

Now it's abundantly clear you didn't read it.