How Much Time Do We Have? Fed Instructs Banks To Test Neg. Int. Rate Environment

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This is no regular drill.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...zero-is-bank-stress-fed-wants-to-test-in-2016

As interest rates turn negative around the world, the Federal Reserve is asking banks to consider the possibility of the same happening in the U.S.
In its annual stress test for 2016, the Fed said it will assess the resilience of big banks to a number of possible situations, including one where the rate on the three-month U.S. Treasury bill stays below zero for a prolonged period.

"The severely adverse scenario is characterized by a severe global recession, accompanied by a period of heightened corporate financial stress and negative yields for short-term U.S. Treasury securities," the central bank said in announcing the stress tests last week.
 
Since 2008 I've seen a million different apocalypse predictions. It could go on for another 10 years before this thing shakes out. Who knows

I'm not saying this will trigger the end, but this is not a good sign. At one time, NIRP was a pipedream. You would have been summarily mocked for even bringing it up.
 
Like the military, they try to test for many different possible scenarios. Doesn't mean they will actually happen. The "stress test" is supposed to try worst case scenarios.
 
Real interest rates have been negative for over 15 years now, save for a few quarters in 2007-08. I don't think it will make much of an immediate difference. It's when those rates don't work either that they will really have a problem.
 
Which types of interest rates are you looking at? They vary considerably for savings accounts or car loans or mortgages or credit cards or bonds- which have hundreds of categories too.
 
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U.S. policy makers decided against pushing rates below zero during the financial crisis partly because of concern it could lead to dangerous dislocations in the money markets.

European Experience

Since then, the European Central Bank and the central banks of Switzerland, Sweden and Denmark have nudged some official lending rates negative without such repercussions, and Fed officials have publicly taken note. The Bank of Japan became the latest monetary authority push rates into negative territory last week in an effort to spur lagging growth and increase too-low inflation.

Former Fed official Roberto Perli cautioned against drawing conclusions about future Fed actions from the inclusion of negative U.S. rates in the stress test scenario.
"It doesn’t signal anything" about future monetary policy, said Perli, a partner at Cornerstone Macro LLC in Washington.
Nevertheless, it is "another sign that the Fed would not be entirely adverse" to reducing its target rate below zero should economic conditions warrant, he said.
Bill Dudley
New York Fed President William Dudley said last month that policy makers were "not thinking at all seriously of moving to negative interest rates.
"But I suppose if the economy were to unexpectedly weaken dramatically, and we decided that we needed to use a full array of monetary policy tools to provide stimulus, it’s something that we would contemplate as a potential action," he said on Jan. 15.

Let's see how quickly they go from, "this isn't a signal" to "we had no choice".

This last year has just been epic.

We've abandoned every rational footing possible in this country. Math appears to be next on the list.
 
Why negative interest rates when inflation effectively steal from the masses anyway? Economic warfare between different cartels?
 
So we have banks that take saver's money and give them 0% interest, and lend it out at rates between 4% and 30%, and this business model is shaky?
 
Why negative interest rates when inflation effectively steal from the masses anyway? Economic warfare between different cartels?

Youre asking the right questions. +Rep

Here is the answer:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Negative interest rates are basically deflation, which still harms the common man in the way it is done. What happens is that although the value of a currency may increase, the prices you and I pay for day to day things never decrease by a proper and proportional amount. As a result, the common man reaps none of the benefits of an increase in the value of a currency.
 
Won't happen so long as the US is the prettiest girl at the ugly dance. Things would be different if other countries' economies were doing substantially better.
 
"It doesn’t signal anything" about future monetary policy, said Perli, a partner at Cornerstone Macro LLC in Washington.
Nevertheless, it is "another sign that the Fed would not be entirely adverse" to reducing its target rate below zero should economic conditions warrant, he said.
Let's see how quickly they go from, "this isn't a signal" to "we had no choice".

Hell, this Perli guy went from "it doesn't signal anything" to "[it's] another sign" in the space of just one interview.(maybe even in the same damn breath). :rolleyes:

The Fed Wants to Test Drive Negative Interest Rates
https://mises.org/blog/fed-wants-test-drive-negative-interest-rates
Joseph T. Salerno (03 February 2016)

In 2016, the Fed's annual stress test on banks will include a scenario in which the interest rate on the three-month U.S. Treasury bill becomes negative in the second quarter of 2016 and then declines to -0.5%, remaining at that level until the first quarter of 2019. According to the Fed, "The severely adverse scenario is characterized by a severe global recession, accompanied by a period of heightened corporate financial stress and negative yields for short-term U.S. Treasury securities." In other words, including this scenario in its stress test is not supposed to signal that the Fed is contemplating adopting a deliberate policy of negative interest rates. It is simply testing the resilience of big banks in the face of a severe recession that precipitates a "flight to safety" which spontaneously drives rates on short-term Treasury securities into negative territory. Or so they would have us believe.

Recent remarks by those associated with the Fed, however, seem to suggest otherwise. For example, former Fed official Roberto Perli, now a partner at Cornerstone Macro LLC, commented "It doesn’t signal anything" about future monetary policy, but then added, it is "another sign that the Fed would not be entirely adverse" to reducing its target rate below zero if economic conditions should warrant. In mid-January, New York Fed President William Dudley denied that policy makers were "thinking at all seriously of moving to negative interest rates." However, he conceded, "I suppose if the economy were to unexpectedly weaken dramatically, and we decided that we needed to use a full array of monetary policy tools to provide stimulus, it’s something that we would contemplate as a potential action." Most tellingly, just this past Monday, Fed Vice Chairman Stanley Fischer gave a talk to the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in which he approvingly discussed negative interest rates in some detail. Because a speech by a Fed Vice Chairman sometimes turns out to be a bellwether of a radical shift in monetary policy--recall Bernanke's infamous speech on deflation and unconventional monetary policy in November 2002--Fischer's remarks are worth quoting:

[W]e believed that we could not get interest rates to go below zero. Well, it turns out that . . . four European and one Asian country have now done that. And how can you do that when currency has a zero rate of return? You can do it because it turns out that holding currency is not so easy. If you’re going to keep your billion dollars in currency, you’re going to have to find a place to store it, you’re going to have to insure it, and you’re going to have to have it guarded. And by the time that’s done . . . zero is no longer the lower bound. All those costs are the lower bound, and those costs seem to be significantly below zero in the sense that we have a Denmark and one other country having a negative 75 basis point interest rate, which worked. . . . So that idea is there. And that’s what they’re pursuing. And, you know, everybody is looking at . . . how that works. . . . [W]e have actual experience of countries that have used negative interest rates. . . . Countries that have used it continue to use it. They haven’t given it up. . . . So it’s working more than I can say that I expected in 2012. . . .​

And, lest we forget, Fed Chairman Yellen went on record as conditionally favoring negative interest rates as President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco in 2010:

If it were positive to take interest rates into negative territory I would be voting for that.​
 
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Here's an interesting tidbit regarding the Bank of Japan, as noted by Bionic Mosquito ...

FTA: http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2016/02/what-youre-doing.html
[... John] Mauldin, in his recent Thoughts From the Frontline, comes about as close to calling BS on the entire system as he has ever come – for example:

Conspiracy theorists will love this Bank of Japan timeline:

Jan 21 – Kuroda emphatically tells Japanese parliament he is not considering NIRP.
Jan 22 – Kuroda flies to Davos.
Jan 29 – Kuroda enthusiastically embraces NIRP and promises more of it if needed.​

So, whom did he talk to in Davos, and what did they say to change his mind?

To pretend that he walked into that meeting without having had lengthy talks about whether to pursue negative interest rates strains credulity…the outcome of any important meeting is decided ahead of time through private discussions among those who will participate.​

[...]
 
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