How does the IRS know if you do not have health insurance?

[robertwerden]

Honestly, cant you just lie and say you have insurance to avoid paying the tax penalty?

 

[dannno]

No, all health insurance will be regulated by the government and you must have a government approved insurance plan.

 

[thoughtomator]

you will have to show proof of insurance with your taxes just like you need to do when a cop stops you in your car

 

[ZENemy]

Or pay the fine until you get locked up? Looks like thats my future.

 

[jj-]

Or pay the fine until you get locked up? Looks like thats my future.

If you pay the fine they will probably leave you alone. Not paying the fine probably will become a problem, unless millions choose to not pay it as well.

 

[ZENemy]

If you pay the fine they will probably leave you alone. Not paying the fine probably will become a problem, unless millions choose to not pay it either.

Its unreal that I have to pay a fine because I eat healthy and dont require healthcare. BONKERS

 

[ClydeCoulter]

If you pay the fine they will probably leave you alone. Not paying the fine probably will become a problem, unless millions choose to not pay it as well.

Yeah, it's about the money, not health anything, it's about you paying them so they can get their di@k s*c@'ed whenever they want and eat the best foods and drink the best coffee's and hang out with the best assh@les in their #1/2mil cars in the bestest places in the world. (all while thinking of your health/srcsm)

edit: I hope this doesn't offend, I'm pissed...

 

[Dary]

I wonder if I'll have to pay the fine while I'm in jail in order to get health care during my stay?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

america is FUCKED

 

[Endthefednow]

america is FUCKED

Ouch!!

 

[69360]

I'm low income self employed, no insurance. When obamacare kicks in in 2014, I will now qualify for medicare. If I don't take the handout, will I be fined? No real answers have been put forth about that.

 

[Keith and stuff]

The government is hiring 10,000s of new IRS agents to find out and enforce the new tax.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Honestly, cant you just lie and say you have insurance to avoid paying the tax penalty?

Three words: Electronic Health Records.

No, all health insurance will be regulated by the government and you must have a government approved insurance plan.

This. You will have to carry an approved biometric/RFID card at all times, with the government approved health care ID number that you belong to.

Its unreal that I have to pay a fine because I eat healthy and dont require healthcare. BONKERS

Maybe. Maybe we'll just put you under surveillance for a while to see if you are telling the truth about eating healthy.

Yeah, it's about the money, not health anything, it's about you paying them so they can get their di@k s*c@'ed whenever they want and eat the best foods and drink the best coffee's and hang out with the best assh@les in their #1/2mil cars in the bestest places in the world. (all while thinking of your health/srcsm)

edit: I hope this doesn't offend, I'm pissed...

Get mad, that's good.

But you are missing the point if you think this is all about money.

Money is secondary, it is, in fact, about control and compliance.

I wonder if I'll have to pay the fine while I'm in jail in order to get health care during my stay?

Yes, your prison wages will be applied to your healthcare premiums.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The flaw in the new health-fine schema is similar to the flaw in the whole IRS system. All liabilities, including penalties and fines alleged by the IRS require an ASSESSMENT, or some determination being made that something is due. This is almost always based on unsworn information reports you or a third party submit to the IRS, who then use that paper trail to create an equitable case to allege you owe.

Most of this is done by computerized processing, not by anybody verifying or swearing to the information for completeness or correctness. So this is NOT the same thing as verified proof of claim of a correct, or lawfully completed assessment. Allegations still need to be proven. If you contest the assessment and demonstrate it was NOT done lawfully, the fines do not need to be paid, as a completed assessment process must precede any lawful enforcement of amounts due. If millions of Americans so challenge the bogus automated reports that no one has verified, be it concerning health care or the income tax, the system will go into overload and shut down.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Get mad, that's good.

But you are missing the point if you think this is all about money.

Money is secondary, it is, in fact, about control and compliance.

I meant "my/your" money, why else would they want to control you, you are a resource/labor/cannonfodder/forceagainstothers.

 

[ItsTime]

full cavity check

 

[newbitech]

How does the IRS even know I exist? hmmm

 

[Pauls' Revere]

RFID microchip implant

 

[MelissaWV]

To verify that you have car insurance, a cop can ask you when they pull you over. Vehicles where a car loan is involved almost always require proof of insurance. There is a form FR19 which can be demanded of your insurance company at random, essentially spot-checking to make sure that a license plate is affiliated with a vehicle that has appropriate insurance.

This doesn't seem that difficult to project over to health insurance.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Ah, but it will create jobs, people to make sure you have the proper insurance /sarcasm