How Does One Start a Caucus Within an Existing Party?

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Hi all,

If there's a Q&A for something like this, please point the way. Some questions:

I'm curious what it takes to start a caucus within the LP or GOP? I assume like everything else it varies from state to state?
Does anyone have any first hand experience?
What are the necessities of starting one and maintaining one?
What's the best way to get people to join?
Does it cost anything?

Thanks in advance.
 
Hi all,

If there's a Q&A for something like this, please point the way. Some questions:

I'm curious what it takes to start a caucus within the LP or GOP? I assume like everything else it varies from state to state?
Does anyone have any first hand experience?
What are the necessities of starting one and maintaining one?
What's the best way to get people to join?
Does it cost anything?

Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure what your asking. But if you're asking what I think you're asking then here goes. [MENTION=991]Matt Collins[/MENTION] has first hand experience in this although with only moderate success. In the wake of the 2008 election, the Ron Paul movement in Nashville had enough strength if we had all showed up to take over the Metro Nashville GOP. It didn't cost anything. We just needed enough people to show up. We had thousands show up to march around downtown Nashville carrying Ron Paul signs on New Year's Eve. But we had a few hundred show up to the party election. We came ONE VOTE shy of having Matt elected chair for the Davidson County GOP executive committee. Matt ended up being vice chair. Barry Donegan and Tanner Tuttle (if I recall correctly) were also elected. Barry is super smart and he had a way of working libertarian ideas into the agenda and getting older more established committee members to go along with the idea thinking it was their own. Tanner kind of worked under cover that way too I believe. Matt, being Matt, (love him), was more "in your face." He used his position to attack GOP politicians he didn't think were true to the constitution. The end result is they executive committee voted to strip him of his position. I represented Matt at the meeting. I made a video I put up on YouTube and sent it to all the committee members asking them to reconsider. One even called me and we had a good conservation. At the hearing I talked about the need for the GOP to bring in young blood and yeah the Ron Paul people are passionate but that's a good thing and the Democrats run everything in Davidson County so we should stick together and iron out our differences etc. Matt...was Matt. He kept to his principles and lost the vote. Barry and Tanner stayed on a bit longer. We didn't make another run at it the next time around. I don't know what happened after that. Lots of mistakes made. Lots of lessons learned. One of the biggest lessons is that it's don't expect all your crew to show up, but get as many as you can to do so. Second? IMO if you don't have all of the power you need yet, keep quiet until you get it. Barack Obama didn't push gay marriage until the end of his first term. Nudge people along to your position and don't make more enemies than you absolutely have to. Lesson three? Don't give up! I'm sure the next election would have been tougher, but we needed MORE people to show up. Instead we fizzled out.
 
Hi all,

If there's a Q&A for something like this, please point the way. Some questions:

I'm curious what it takes to start a caucus within the LP or GOP? I assume like everything else it varies from state to state?
Does anyone have any first hand experience?
What are the necessities of starting one and maintaining one?
What's the best way to get people to join?
Does it cost anything?

Thanks in advance.

A caucus within a political party or organization is just a group of people who agree to work together to achieve some common purpose or goal. As far as I know, there are no "rules" for this. You just get some like-minded people to work together to do whatever it is you're trying to do, and you call yourselves a "caucus". There might be many specific and detailed rules for membership in a caucus, or only a few general ones (or even none at all). A caucus can be as formal or informal - or as organized or unorganized - or as hierarchical or "horizontal" - or etc. - as its members think it needs to be.
 
A caucus within a political party or organization is just a group of people who agree to work together to achieve some common purpose or goal. As far as I know, there are no "rules" for this. You just get some like-minded people to work together to do whatever it is you're trying to do, and you call yourselves a "caucus". There might be many specific and detailed rules for membership in a caucus, or only a few general ones (or even none at all). A caucus can be as formal or informal - or as organized or unorganized - or as hierarchical or "horizontal" - or etc. - as its members think it needs to be.

That is my understanding as well. The follow up question is this. How do you do this to any real positive effect? Some groups are effective. Some are not.
 
That is my understanding as well. The follow up question is this. How do you do this to any real positive effect? Some groups are effective. Some are not.

I suppose it depends on what you are trying to do, the rules of the party or organization you are trying to influence or control, your effectiveness at persuading others to join your effort, your competence at managing the resources dedicated to the effort, and so forth. All those things can vary wildly from one particular instance to the next.

The recent "takeover" of the Libertarian Party by the Mises Caucus, which happened just last week, provides one example of a resoundingly successful caucus strategy. Whether or how the same kind of thing could work in some other context would depend on details such as the size of the party or organization you are attempting to influence or control, and the scale at which you are trying to influence or control it. Are you trying just to control or influence a local branch of a national organization, for example, or the whole thing on a nationwide basis? The Mises Caucus worked at both the state and national levels. It now controls all of the national LP and thirty or so state-level LPs (with more likely to be added). The Republican party, by comparison, is much larger and more "general" (so to speak) than the LP, and the opposition to any "insurgent" caucus is likely to have much greater resources at its disposal, making the job of the "insurgents" that much harder.[1] - so any such effort would have to take those factors into account when devising and implementing its strategy.



[1] There very much needs to be a GOP Mises Caucus, by the way. But their goals - or at least their strategies for achieving their goals - would have to be different from those of the LP Mises Caucus, for the reasons I have mentioned. Tho Bishop of the Mises Institute is trying to do something of the sort for paleolibertarians, but I don't know the scale of his project's ambitions (he's operating out of Florida - the Tampa Bay area, I think) or the prospects for success in achieving whatever their particular goals happen to be.
 
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I have a lot of experience with this, I personally am a member of TheTexan caucus. Membership currently of 1

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A caucus within the libertarian party ? Surely you jest .

It most likely will not be within the LP IF I decide to start one.

Thanks for all of the responses. It seems it's far less formal than I was thinking based upon what everyone's saying here. I didn't know if there were fees to be "officially recognized" or if you needed a website (seems like one would probably be helpful to rally people, or a social media page). Just need a cool name and maybe a slogan and start getting people to join up that are like minded and push certain legislators and show up to conventions.
 
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