How do we win over Santorum supporters?

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What characteristics of Santorum launch him to 24% among likely South Carolina Republican Primary voters in the latest Rasmussen poll?

Can we accurately frame Paul's message in terms compatible with Santorum's own appeal?

24% is significant mindshare. I like to be optimistic for society's own sake that Santorum's support stems from more than simply just his own worst attributes. Perhaps his supporters can be reached by Paul's message of liberty translated more pointedly into their own terms.

Has anyone had personal success reaching individuals who otherwise would have been likely Santorum supporters?

Is anyone themselves a person who formerly may have been drawn to support Santorum?
 
Talk about bombing Iran and take over the major media networks. Simple as that.
 
yes, just yesterday someone in our mailroom said "hey, what about that guy santorum"? I laughed out loud and told him santorum's a wacky nutcase and I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only republican running. I told him he's a typical dirty politician who took more money from lobbyists than every other politician in washington, lied about meeting with them, and voted to raise the debt limit several times. I also informed him that Rick is an advocate of sending our taxpayer dollars overseas in foreign aid, and thinks that government should be powerful enough to run every single aspect of our personal lives. I said he's a creep and when people get to really know him they are not gonna like him at all.
 
I don't think we'll ever be able to reach the religious right. They believe that islam wants to destroy the west and have some unexplicable fraternal loyalty towards the state of israel.
 
Thing is, Rick and Ron are COMPLETELY different. It would require a paradigm shift for someone to change their mind, if they actually know what Rick believes in. If it's a blind vote, then simple awareness would help. That's our bread and butter anyways, right? Awareness and spreading the knowledge.


If all else fails, just tell em to google Santorum:-D
 
LisaNY said:
yes, just yesterday someone in our mailroom said "hey, what about that guy santorum"? I laughed out loud and told him santorum's a wacky nutcase and I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only republican running. I told him he's a typical dirty politician who took more money from lobbyists than every other politician in washington, lied about meeting with them, and voted to raise the debt limit several times. I also informed him that Rick is an advocate of sending our taxpayer dollars overseas in foreign aid, and thinks that government should be powerful enough to run every single aspect of our personal lives. I said he's a creep and when people get to really know him they are not gonna like him at all.
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Wow! Great work on that. Just curious about what the caller had to say. Was it an eye-opener? Hopefully, at the debates this information will be regurgitated and Santorum discredited.
 
Not sure we can win them over...we have to realize that we can't get everybody, and Santorum is about as far apart from RP as any candidate can be. I don't recommend wasting precious resources -- time, being among them -- on doing something that is likely to be impossible. Stay focused on the ones who are most likely to be won over.
 
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Don't over-think this... Santorum got the votes he did because the media told people to vote for him. If you are looking for some trait you're not going to find it. The vote for Santorum had absolutely nothing to do with any of his policies or his personality. It was all about being the media's next choice as an alternative to Romney.

If you think we're ever going to get that, think again. We have to win on ideas. That's the only way.
 
Expose him for not being a actual conservative. He tries to win over conservatives with his anti-gay anti-muslim rhetoric, but he votes liberal.
 
A "Reagan Conservative" is one who believes in traditional Conservative values like personal freedom, small government, low taxes, free markets, and a strong military. Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength", and at the end of his administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of peacetime prosperity without recession or depression.
Here's the correct definition of a Reagon Conservative we need to run with it on Santorum, Gingrich and Romney.
Gingrich says he a Reagan Conservative. LOL
 
A. Havnes said:
Wow! Great work on that. Just curious about what the caller had to say. Was it an eye-opener? Hopefully, at the debates this information will be regurgitated and Santorum discredited.
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Yes it most definitely was an eye opener, you should have seen the look on his face. This is your typical boobus American, doesn't pay attention to politics other than what he sees on the msm. And I forgot to metion, I also told him that Santorum "doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground" when it comes to economics and would probably make the economy even worse.

I didn't mention Ron's name AT ALL I just spoke the truth about santorum and it WORKED.
 
Rasmussen poll had his support at a solid 30% meaning the other 70% are sheep. Those people can be won over. We hit Newt hard along with Romney which resulted in the crash and burn of Newt. We started ticking up on Iowa.

You attack Santorum - big govt Republican who wants to be in your bedroom. He is anti Tea Party because he voted 8 times to raise the debt ceiling - $4 trillion in more debt. He is on record being anti American - said we can't have less taxes and less regulations. no country has ever existed through individualism.
 
Liberty74 said:
Rasmussen poll had his support at a solid 30% meaning the other 70% are sheep. Those people can be won over. We hit Newt hard along with Romney which resulted in the crash and burn of Newt. We started ticking up on Iowa.

You attack Santorum - big govt Republican who wants to be in your bedroom. He is anti Tea Party because he voted 8 times to raise the debt ceiling - $4 trillion in more debt. He is on record being anti American - said we can't have less taxes and less regulations. no country has ever existed through individualism.
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He's anti-Tea Party because he's said that he is. If words speak louder than actions with some voters, go ahead and let 'em know what the guy said about the Tea Party.
 
Liberty74 said:
Rasmussen poll had his support at a solid 30% meaning the other 70% are sheep. Those people can be won over. We hit Newt hard along with Romney which resulted in the crash and burn of Newt. We started ticking up on Iowa.

You attack Santorum - big govt Republican who wants to be in your bedroom. He is anti Tea Party because he voted 8 times to raise the debt ceiling - $4 trillion in more debt. He is on record being anti American - said we can't have less taxes and less regulations. no country has ever existed through individualism.
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He has also stated that he doesn't believe the right of privacy exists in the Constitution. Aside from the natural rights argument about property rights (i.e. if we are just speaking about what is in the Constitution) then what the hell is the 4th Amendment, Rick?
 
By pointing out Santorum`s liberal voting record. He`s only conservative on social issues. Regarding these issues however he advocates letting states decide, which is pretty much what Ron Paul wants to do.

Ron Paul is the best of both worlds, on both fiscal and social.
 
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we can win the fair weather supporters that flock to him, but winning over the people that actually believe in him...hell no.

I don't even want those supporters...they scare the hell out of me and think religion rules common sense sometimes...and I do believe in God BTW. I just don't believe in 1/2 the crazy stuff Social Conservatives try to push on us....
 
It's perceived front runner status from IA and CNN letting him spew BS on a regular evening time slot for 2 weeks straight. It's not based on true knowledge of or backing. It can go away just as fast as it was generated. Perry is the proof as the same thing happened when he entered the race. People saw him as an alternative and perceived him as a front runner. One interesting thing, the debates were not good to Santorum (and they killed Perry) and we have a debate (2 actually) coming up. Santorum slide will be taking effect immediately.
 
My wife did RP outreach outside a Santorum event in New Hampshire last night. I realize this is very different than in South Carolina, but here are some things that worked well:
- Ask what is important to each person. Some (few) are diehard Santorum supporters, but many more have not made up their mind and Santorum is a protest vote against Romney for social conservatives.
- Remind veterans that Dr. Paul is the only vet in the race.
- Talk to pro-life folks about the 4,000 babies.
- They recognize that Romney is not a true conservative, and his flip-flops, but don't know much about Santorum other than he is representing himself as a true conservative. I don't think you need to point out his big government time in the Senate; just let Santorum talk. He really flubbed things last night, telling a kid that he supported SOPA and would send 14 year olds to jail for downloading. He will not do well in NH for anyone that listens to him.
- I am a little concerned that with the short turnaround from Iowa that less NH voters than usual will take the time to know the candidates. Although Romney may win (house in the state, well-known), he has many more detractors than supporters, but they don't have enough time to gel around one candidate.
- Many folks walked out disgusted and asked for RP literature, and a few even asked for yard signs!
 
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