How do we combat media that are biased against us? (LE's question that deserves discussion)

[osan]

Nice.

Did you notice the scumbag laughing at him as the question about CIA was asked, I am assuming it having been one of the "moderators"? Graceless boor-slob whom I would call on the carpet with words that would leave him jonesing for a crack in the floor in which to squeeze himself.

Also, did you notice how, was it Brit Hume, who begins to interrupt him after the bell rang? Have you noticed how these pillars of impartiality allow the big asshole-candidates to go on and on after the bell rings at such events, but suddenly get all stiff in the collar when a man like Ron Paul starts releasing "dangerous" thoughts into the ether?

Abandon this system, if you have any sense at all. Get yourself prepared for some real bad shit, because it has to be coming. This brand of roiling insanity never builds up to a happy ending. If it does this time, it will be the first documented case in all human history. Put that in your statistical-analysis pipe and smoke it.

Have at least six months of long-shelf foods on hand. We have a year. Prepare to save yourselves because Theye are not going to lift a finger for you.

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

And they will rush in a global currency. Not too liberating there.

^^^This. I'm very concerned at remarks saying Americans will "wake up" after having a huge national disaster like an EMP attack on our power grid or economic collapse. "Americans love security more than freedom" is a common trope around RPF. Most likely (unfortunately), they will not become enlightened or gravitate towards 'self reliance'/self sufficiency style of living.

Looking to the government to solve all of their problems for so long, and relying on modern technology for all their needs, millions of people are probably not going to have the will to live anymore once all convenience shuts down. They will clamor to government for help and save them. It will be tragedy on a biblical scale. It scares the s*** out of me and I've stayed up many sleepless nights thinking about such a nightmarish scenario.

As far as outreach, I believe partnerships are very important. Students for Liberty seems like a great organization spreading the message of liberty across college campuses worldwide. They have an international conference coming up soon in DC
http://isflc.org/

FIRE is a great organization challenging all of the legal BS on college campuses shutting down individual rights.
https://www.thefire.org/fire-guides/fires-guide-to-free-speech-on-campus-3/

There are so many organizations some kind of partnership should be formed to create a nationwide media effort educating the masses. Something is better than nothing.

 

[Theocrat]

Finding Success in the Entertainment Industry

Some posts in the other thread have already been made...I'll try to copy them over.

Another thing we can do to combat the mainstream media is to form coalitions with celebrities who advocate libertarian principles such as auditing the Fed, having sound money, shrinking the size of the federal government, and moving back towards a humble foreign policy. Vince Vaughn immediately come to mind. Celebrities like him will be able to challenge and discuss those principles with other celebrities in Hollywood, and, hopefully, it can breed supporters who will begin to make movies/documentaries that reflect the "liberty message" towards a global audience.

We can form those same coalitions with libertarian celebrities in music, sports, radio, and other pop culture venues of entertainment. We just need to find them, and we all know that people will listen to those celebrities, if those celebrities are brave enough to publicly speak out on those liberty principles.

And as a Christian, I would say the same method applies to well-known and respected Christian preachers/pastors, scholars/authors, musicians, and even actors.

 

[acptulsa]

About time.

In 2008 the market crashed. I came here and said we all needed to buy GE stock at five bucks, and see if we could get enough proxies to exert some control on NBC. Everyone yawned.

Somewhere about 2012 someone asked for the three worst personalities in American history, so far as the amount of evil they enabled. I said William Randolph Hearst, Henry Luce and Rupert Murdoch. I was laughed at.

Hitler would have gotten nowhere without Himmler. Himmler was Hitler's greatest secret weapon.

Until we learn this lesson, we will continue to be a gaggle of useless outcasts overcome and completely stymied by the professional trolls professionally tolerated on 'our own' website.

What we need is radio stations. And we needed to get them a decade ago.

 

[elfroggo]

Nice.

Did you notice the scumbag laughing at him as the question about CIA was asked, I am assuming it having been one of the "moderators"? Graceless boor-slob whom I would call on the carpet with words that would leave him jonesing for a crack in the floor in which to squeeze himself.

That was Giuliani laughing if I recall correctly

 

[ZakCarter]

“In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete.” - Buckminster Fuller

We're building a liberty friendly news network around Ben Swann!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489933-If-Liberty-is-to-Win-in-2020-amp-2024

 

[acptulsa]

That was Giuliani laughing if I recall correctly

That's like obsessing about whether it was the quarterback or a lineman who committed the unsportsmanlike conduct that didn't get called by the referees. They're on the same damned team.

If anarchy is playing football without referees, the congratulations, anarchists. We are there. Unfortunately, we got rid of the refs but we didn't get rid of the teams.

 

[elfroggo]

That's like obsessing about whether it was the quarterback or a lineman who committed the unsportsmanlike conduct that didn't get called by the referees. They're on the same damned team.

If anarchy is playing football without referees, the congratulations, anarchists. We are there. Unfortunately, we got rid of the refs but we didn't get rid of the teams.

Fuck sake nothing was meant by it, just brought back some memories

 

[Occam's Banana]

Somewhere about 2012 someone asked for the three worst personalities in American history, so far as the amount of evil they enabled. I said William Randolph Hearst, Henry Luce and Rupert Murdoch. I was laughed at.

I would neither laugh nor even disagree.

Hitler would have gotten nowhere without Himmler. Himmler was Hitler's greatest secret weapon.

Given the context, I think you mean Joseph Goebbels (Reich Minister of Propaganda) rather than Himmler.

 

[wmmonk]

It DIDN'T DO WELL. Except for Trevor's bank account.

Did the blimp not fly? Or, was it a scam project? I'm pretty positive it flew over areas in my state, but I could be wrong?

 

[ZakCarter]

Did the blimp not fly? Or, was it a scam project? I'm pretty positive it flew over areas in my state, but I could be wrong?

It flew, but it was of very questionable value... we live and we learn!

In more recent news, we're building a liberty friendly news network around Ben Swann!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489933-If-Liberty-is-to-Win-in-2020-amp-2024

 

[wmmonk]

It flew, but it was of very questionable value... we live and we learn!

In more recent news, we're building a liberty friendly news network around Ben Swann!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?489933-If-Liberty-is-to-Win-in-2020-amp-2024

If it flew, why was it of questionable value? That's what a blimp is designed to do. Fly. Was it not seen by people at events, and did it not create media reports around it?

 

[ZakCarter]

If it flew, why was it of questionable value? That's what a blimp is designed to do. Fly. Was it not seen by people at events, and did it not create media reports around it?

If it had brought in enough bang for the buck, other political campaigns would have had blimps in the air between then and now...

 

[wmmonk]

If it had brought in enough bang for the buck, other political campaigns would have had blimps in the air between then and now...

You mean like:
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...ir-political-blimps-take-to-swing-state-skies

 

[ZakCarter]

Yep, that was so effective that Romney lost Colorado... what's with your blimp fetish?

 

[wmmonk]

Yep, that was so effective that Romney lost Colorado... what's with your blimp fetish?

John McCain lost Colorado in 2008 as well. It just showed that another supporter used a blimp as well. Blimps are used for advertising. It's what they do. If the Ron Paul blimp didn't fly, it would have been a scam. But, it flew.

If we are looking at an alternative media options, I think the best route is to use Facebook and social media sites for articles/videos. Those can become firestorms reaching several million people very quickly. It's one of those weird things. It doesn't necessarily require millions to start a network, but perhaps just proper marketing and key people to help get the fire started.

Kind of like when Senator Lee shared Rand's video, "Thieves in the Night".

 

[Jingles]

If I had a couple million dollars to spare I would try my idea... But I don't have that.

It's simply just being a regular guy, but intelligently making most speeches about actual economics and such. Basically just "drunk me" running for office and at every rally/function I offer free beer. idk. I'll be the drunk libertarian hero. Something. I'm drunk idk.

 

[idiom]

John McCain lost Colorado in 2008 as well. It just showed that another supporter used a blimp as well. Blimps are used for advertising. It's what they do. If the Ron Paul blimp didn't fly, it would have been a scam. But, it flew.

If we are looking at an alternative media options, I think the best route is to use Facebook and social media sites for articles/videos. Those can become firestorms reaching several million people very quickly. It's one of those weird things. It doesn't necessarily require millions to start a network, but perhaps just proper marketing and key people to help get the fire started.

Kind of like when Senator Lee shared Rand's video, "Thieves in the Night".

The over 45 crowd (the people who vote) get their information almost exclusively from network news.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

The over 45 crowd (the people who vote) get their information almost exclusively from network news.

Luckily they will be 49 and over in 2020.

 

[ZakCarter]

If we are looking at an alternative media options, I think the best route is to use Facebook and social media sites for articles/videos. Those can become firestorms reaching several million people very quickly. It's one of those weird things. It doesn't necessarily require millions to start a network, but perhaps just proper marketing and key people to help get the fire started.

Yep, we're doing that!

We’ve had some real success over the past year in getting our videos out to significant audiences, with millions of views of our videos on social media every month - https://www.facebook.com/UniversalFreePress/videos/1109286879117550/ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kdi1UXxhY - and celebrities including Russell Simmons, Ted Nugent, Bill Maher, Esai Morales, and Robert Kennedy Jr. have shared them - https://www.facebook.com/tednugent/posts/10153307453697297 - https://www.facebook.com/Maher/posts/10153232558072297 - https://www.facebook.com/RussellSimmons/posts/10153360559768759 - http://ecowatch.com/2015/11/01/cdc-vaccine-cover-up-autism/ - On top of that, Ben Swann and Truth in Media have been mentioned from CNN, NYT, The Washington Post, to The View, and we've even had our content broadcast on multiple cable networks - it's the slow and steady growth model, (we've been at this since 2013) but it's speeding up and we'll get there!