How Do Christians Reconcile Evolution?

[V3n]

God created a world that could be explained by evolution.

If the world's only explanation was God, there would be no faith.

 

[otherone]

Heres an example.Its like saying if a Irish Man moves to the middle east even though hes the minority he could eventually become the dominant trait in the middle east and all Arabs would eventually have red hair and be pale complected .

Based on how badly gingers burn, the obvious answer is variations able to migrate to more accommodating environments would do so, or not survive.

 

[robert9712000]

Based on how badly gingers burn, the obvious answer is variations able to migrate to more accommodating environments would do so, or not survive.

That single mutated white bear isn't going to migrate very far away from the dominant grizzly region though,because it needs to reproduce.So while it may roam a little bit ,its still a minority in an overly dominant grizzly population.So unless it has incest with its white offspring the mutation variety would be diluted in the overwhelming grizzly population regardless of how more effective it is at surviving because like i said in my last post.The evolution theory only reasons correctly if the original dominant species has problems reproducing(survival of the fittest is a mute point if both versions can reproduce),thus allowing the mutation to become the dominant breed.

 

[otherone]

The evolution theory only reasons correctly if the original dominant species has problems reproducing(survival of the fittest is a mute point if both versions can reproduce),thus allowing the mutation to become the dominant breed.

What happens when two offshoots of a common ancestor each find niches in the same environment (Like humans and chimps)?

 

[otherone]

That single mutated white bear isn't going to migrate very far away from the dominant grizzly region though

Color variation is common in animals. There are 'white' gray squirrels, for instance. As long as the variation is not a handicap, the gene will survive. If, for instance, we encountered another Ice Age, and New York was covered in snow 24/7, the 'white' squirrels may have a better chance at survival (until, of course, the white cat variant dominates).

 

[robert9712000]

What happens when two offshoots of a common ancestor each find niches in the same environment (Like humans and chimps)?

The problem with that is if they were offshoots why wouldn't you have 1000's of different varying in between versions of humans and apes instead of two distinct species?As long as each type of in between could still breed there should be 1000's of varying versions in between man and ape.

 

[Sola_Fide]

As long as the Christians (or people who think they are defending the Christian position) keep accepting the atheist's terms of the debate, you are going to keep losing.

 

[otherone]

there should be 1000's of varying versions in between man and ape.

Have you been to Walmart?

 

[carclinic]

Evolution simply is unproven scientifically. I don't see how a simple bacterium can be made arbitrarily. Afterall, we don't see junkyards popping out working vehicles just because all the car parts are lying around.

 

[carclinic]

Have you been to Walmart?

LOL!

 

[Liberty4life]

Now here you nailed it, God did exactly that, and described it in the bible. (hmm, meant to quote someone about God making man from soup)

 

[onlyrp]

Evolution simply is unproven scientifically. I don't see how a simple bacterium can be made arbitrarily.

Where did you get the idea that was evolution?

Afterall, we don't see junkyards popping out working vehicles just because all the car parts are lying around.

Poe...nice

 

[Liberty4life]

Not really sure what FYP means , is that For Your Post ? As for my post , I did not mention any invisible friends , if you would like to make a point about the post { I am ok with that ] , please use what is was that I said .

FYP == fixed your post, usually in regards to errors, in this case just semantics, easy way to bump your posts, *wink Hazek*

 

[onlyrp]

lol people taking my polar bear post seriously.

you'd be surprised how many people actually believe that, it's not that funny.

 

[tttppp]

(Disclaimer, I'm not Christian.)

So, i've been studying a lot of information regarding Human evolution and I'm genuinely curious how Christians can believe in evolution?

It would seem to me that the two are completely incompatible. Evolution (at least macro-evolution) holds the idea that we evolved from ape to man in a somewhat-linear progression. That is directly contradictory to the "creationist" theory.


So, I would just like to get your thoughts on the subject.

do you believe that evolution is a completely fasle theory and creationism is correct?

do you believe maybe the bible isn't completely correct, but that there is a god who started something, somewhere?

Anything in between?

God never created the universe because the universe has always existed and always will exist.

Christians pick and chose which scientific theories they like then determine they are fact. For example, when the big bang theory came about, the Christians determined it to be generally accepted fact because it shows the universe was created (even though it wasn't). The Christians simply added to the big bang theory that it was God that created the universe, which is complete bs.

 

[Savvy Jack]

In the first chapter of Genesis it explains it very clear. Genesis 1:24 explains that the creatures were created after their kind, each according to its kind. Then in 1:24 God said lets make man in Our image, according to Our likeness (basically referring to moral, ethical and intellectual abilities which rules out apes and monkeys). As well as letting them have dominion over all fish, birds animals and things that crawl over the earth. Which again, rules out evolution from ape to man....and any other creature. We/they were all made after their own kind.

 

[anaconda]

I think they deemphasize the old testament or consider it to be allegorical, rather than factual.

 

[PierzStyx]

For the OFFICIAL church statement from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: http://www.lds.org/ensign/2002/02/the-origin-of-man?lang=eng&query=origin+man

In essence, mankind is the literal intentional creation of God Almighty. We did not form from lesser beings, but are created in the image of God Himself. Adam and Eve were real people, who really lived in the Garden of Eden. They really did partake of some type of fruit (whatever kind but not an apple) and because they had sinned and brought upon themselves spiritual imperfection, had to leave God's presence and begin mortal life on Earth. This is the Origin of Man. And really not just of man, but life on earth.

Does this mean we refuse elements, or particular principles of the theory of evolution? No we do not. That there have been genetic adaptations in various beings over the course of history is true. We adapt to our surroundings and become the apex creature for those surroundings. We pass those genetic adaptations onward. But the belief that one entirely different animal can become another entirely different animal, even by a few degrees, is false. A cat may become larger or smaller, white or black, checked or striped, feral or tame but it never becomes a monkey or a human. Likewise a primate may become large or small, furry or not, quick or slow, smart or stupid, violent or peaceful, but it is always in the end a primate. It becomes an apex primate but it does not become a human being. Humans are the children of God, physically created as we are by Him in His image with the divine purpose to become like Him.

 

[PierzStyx]

God never created the universe because the universe has always existed and always will exist.

Christians pick and chose which scientific theories they like then determine they are fact. For example, when the big bang theory came about, the Christians determined it to be generally accepted fact because it shows the universe was created (even though it wasn't). The Christians simply added to the big bang theory that it was God that created the universe, which is complete bs.

Mormons believe in the eternal nature of matter, that God created the Universe by organizing it from chaos into order. And they've taught this, that the matter of the universe has always existed and wasn't created out of nothingness, since 1840. That si long before Einstein and Relativity or Hawking's claims in his book. Still b.s.?

 

[eduardo89]

Mormons believe in the eternal nature of matter, that God created the Universe by organizing it from chaos into order. And they've taught this, that the matter of the universe has always existed and wasn't created out of nothingness, since 1840. That si long before Einstein and Relativity or Hawking's claims in his book. Still b.s.?

Who created this matter then?