How can one possibly NOT believe in the Truth of Christ?

[trey4sports]

would there have been the same uproar had the OP mocked atheism? Doubt it.

 

[WilliamC]

How is your inflammatory picture not in mocking nature? It is not a logical question. It is not a progression of thought dictated with reason. It is an insult to those who have beliefs different than yours. Being snarky about your beliefs to others and denying you're mocking them?

You are a child. Grow up and relate your spiritual arguments like an adult.

If I were God I'd appreciate snark from my creations, it would keep me humble.

As it is I just have to laugh at myself

 

[WilliamC]

What you just described is the primary moral conundrum of every parent; provide your kids "safety" but deny them their freedom, leaving them weak, dependent, and unprepared for the world; or give them free will and stand aside, hoping that you've equipped them with enough knowledge and experience to make their own choices, but never being entirely sure they'll make the right choices.

In a way, God treats His children the way any consistent libertarian would.

I'm a parent and I am not omniscient.

Analogy isn't really valid.

 

[WilliamC]

I once fell into this same common trap of using my own sense of morality to judge God. I thought it was immoral for a God to punish people in hell for eternity. But then I realized that if morality exists, it comes from an arbiter of morality (GOD) whose actions are moral by definition. If there is no God, there is no absolute morality, and right and wrong are just opinions.

Sad but true.

Bad people make up their own opinions of right and wrong and alas there is no god stopping them from acting on them.

I stop myself, but if other people need god to stop them then I'm all for it.

 

[fisharmor]

I don't engage in mocking atheists, because conversion is the goal, not resistance.
You can only convert others through violence, or reason. I don't think belittling the other party has ever been particularly effective.
Something atheists ought to note as well.

As far as pro-Christian threads, I see them as exactly like the pro-AC threads: people start them most often to initiate a constructive conversation, and get about four posts into it before the flying monkeys attack and declare that it's all a bunch of bullshit.

 

[trey4sports]

Bump.

 

[robert68]

I once fell into this same common trap of using my own sense of morality to judge God. I thought it was immoral for a God to punish people in hell for eternity. But then I realized that if morality exists, it comes from an arbiter of morality (GOD) whose actions are moral by definition. If there is no God, there is no absolute morality, and right and wrong are just opinions.

Great, all that’s needed is for “God’s” spokesperson to tell everyone what’s moral and what isn’t,
so that those who have a conscience can know to ignore it (their conscience).

 

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

 

[Harryhaller]

Give me that old time religion. Mithraism!

 

[Seraphim]

Logic is universal and constant - our understanding of it is subjective/incomplete. Very much like the truth, THE TRUTH exists - our capability to know/understand the truth, in it's entirety, is impossible.

2 cents.

Not a Christian myself, but what makes you think God is limited by human concepts like logic? Only by presuming that the human construct of logic somehow rules the universe can you make this statement and you have no evidence whatsoever that such is the case. Boulder from your own eye and all that . . .

 

[Muwahid]

would there have been the same uproar had the OP mocked atheism? Doubt it.

Ohh how oppressed atheists are

 

[bunklocoempire]

Originally Posted by trey4sports

would there have been the same uproar had the OP mocked atheism? Doubt it.

Ohh how oppressed atheists are

Well sure they are, being of the world and all...



Don't get me wrong, I love the atheists too. If I didn't, I wouldn't say anything.

 

[jmdrake]

I really didn't come here looking for either pro-Deity or anti-Deity postings ... as a chicken and egg experiment, which type of posting do you suppose came to this message board first (the first one usually starts the barrage).

Your question is poorly phrased. "Pro-Diety"? "Anti-Diety"? Not relevant. You can be "pro-Diety" and respectful of others. You can be "anti-Diety" and respectful of others. And for the record, the religion wars at RPF started back in 2008 when after pleasing atheists by not rejecting evolution, Ron Paul disappointed them by not embracing it either. Most Christians were not phased because we fit in the same boat. There are aspects of evolution that aren't really questionable because they are readily apparent and observable. Then there are aspects that are not. But our reservation of judgement as to what we see as an unproven theory is met with scorn and derision by the other side. I've seen atheists question whether or not they support Ron Paul simply because he "dared" to question evolution. Why does that matter? He wants the federal government out of the education business anyway. Don't we all?