How About a REAL Liberty Perspective

[RJB]

Report the insults when you see them. Like this one:

I think he directed that at Alex Jones who isn't a member here.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I originally posted this in the "Dark" thread but I think we need to talk about this as it's own subject.


You know, part of liberty is to allow people to vote how they wish- I am for that, even though I may think their choice is stupid/outrageous/insane etc.

What I am NOT for is the constant name-calling and degradation of those who do NOT support Trump. Every post that shows some negative aspect of Trump is countered by name-calling, personal insults, and innuendos by 99.9% of Trump supporters. Only a few actually talk about the subject itself, and show a real alternate POV.

Of course, when opposers finally have had enough of the insults and fire back, then the hue and cry is about the poor Trumpets and the abuse they suffer. Even worse is when people who just post news articles, and do not degrade ANYONE, (like @CPUd) are constantly called names and insulted beyond measure, usually WITHOUT little, or any, argument against the article itself. And, If there is an argument, it's always about the source, not the content.

My POV is to read EVERYTHING. All sides should be read on a subject that one holds dear- that is really the only way to be able to hold good dialog about any subject and understand all points that are brought up.

IF you really wish to change hearts & minds, a good argument is based on facts, your personal POV, and acceptance of those who disagree. The next few months are only going to get worse and if you really want Trump as president, try some intelligent persuasion.

I can guarantee if Hitlery wins it will be as much the Trump supporters fault as those against.

Cool, man. *thumbsup* I hope you can find people genuinely interested in liberty. Not many in 'Murica-not even on this site. :'(

 

[Smitty]

Report the insults when you see them. Like this one:

Of all the people I see posting on here, r3volution 3.0 seems to be the one with the most perpetually foul disposition.

,....as if he was born with a piss fountain continuously flowing into his Wheaties.

 

[Jamesiv1]

I think there needs to be a safe-space indicator. Maybe like the green dot that indicates you're online. You just go into safe-space mode, the little doohickey next to your username lights up, and anybody that insults you while you're in your safe-space gets banned.

 

[Natural Citizen]

...the poor Trumpets...

What is a Trumpet, Ender?

 

[Suzanimal]

I think he directed that at Alex Jones who isn't a member here.

I guess the dick pills didn't work.

 

[goldwater's ghost]

What is a Trumpet, Ender?

a musical instrument with an orange hue that works by blowing hot air into it

 

[Smitty]

I guess the dick pills didn't work.

That's debatable. He's been a dick on here as long as I can recall.

Something caused it.

 

[Suzanimal]

I think there needs to be a safe-space indicator. Maybe like the green dot that indicates you're online. You just go into safe-space mode, the little doohickey next to your username lights up, and anybody that insults you while you're in your safe-space gets banned.

That's a great idea! I want a Franzia box safe-space indicator.

 

[Suzanimal]

That's debatable. He's been a dick on here as long as I can recall.

Something caused it.

I don't think think he's a dick, I was just joking around because he seemed so mad about the dick pills.

 

[Smitty]

I don't think think he's a dick, I was just joking around because he seemed so mad about the dick pills.

If it wasn't that it would have been something else.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The thing is, it's not limited to just election threads. There is such a strong personal hatred between the two sides that fights break out between people on totally unrelated forums that have nothing to do with politics. Keep politics, politics. Don't make it personal. That's my beef.

Again, simple solution: enforce the site policy and ban the Trumpkins.

The idea that we can co-exist happily on this site is absurd.

It'd be like throwing the userbases of Stormfront and RPF together and expecting...

...O wait, that's what actually happened.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What a scam, I bet Ender could not stop laughing when he posted that. The anti-Trump people spew all kinds of hate and insults for simply discussing the race and Trump. After awhile some hit back and then the anti-Trump people cry to the mods or make posts like this after stirring things up.

Yup. You are right. One has only to look at the number of times Trump supporters have been insulted and often when there isn't any discussion going on.

 

[euphemia]

I don't want to say bad things to people, but sometimes I want to yell really loud in their ears, JOHNSON IS NOT A LIBERTARIAN!!!!

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Stormfront is so,.....so,.."90s". And I never hung out there, anyway.

I prefer the Unz Review, Vox Popoli, Taki's Magazine, American Renaissance, and The Mises Institute,...and of course, Lew Rockwell.

Same thing

...including Lew, who stopped being a libertarian a long time ago.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Again, simple solution: enforce the site policy and ban the Trumpkins.

The idea that we can co-exist happily on this site is absurd.

You are free to leave.

It'd be like throwing the userbases of Stormfront and RPF together and expecting...

Are you saying you came from Stormfront?

...O wait, that's what actually happened.

lol. It isn't the Trump supporters who are starting 10+ threads/day about Trump. In fact, many of the sources that person posts are from well-known leftist sites and sources being named in the DNC Leaks emails as colluding with the DNC. lol.

There would be little discussion of Trump on this site if CPU wasn't posting these. And, of course, if others were not lying about Trump's positions. Because, as you know, that is going to cause people to correct you. Don't want to be corrected? Don't lie. It's a pretty simple concept.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Same thing

...including Lew, who stopped being a libertarian a long time ago.

You are calling Lew Rockwell and Mises akin to Stormfront? Wow, dude.

 

[Smitty]

Same thing

...including Lew, who stopped being a libertarian a long time ago.

I suspect that you consider anything other than the AIPAC News Hub to be the equivalent of Stormfront.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

...lying about Trump's positions.

So you continually claim, despite the mountains of direct quotes and video which have been provided to you.

...about QE, TARP, the stimulus, socialized medicine, the Libya War, the Iraq War, the PATRIOT Act, etc.

 

[Ender]

a musical instrument with an orange hue that works by blowing hot air into it

LOL! Still laughing!

Look All,

I have very little problem with any member on the forum- there are a couple who do follow me around w/neg comments but overall, l get along with most everyone and think you're all awesome.

I know when [MENTION=35824]Jamesiv1[/MENTION] is joking , [MENTION=33245]TheTexan[/MENTION] cracks me up- I appreciate [MENTION=17293]Zippyjuan[/MENTION]'s different POV, because, as I said, we should be looking at all sides. Do I agree with everyone 100% of the time. No. And I don't expect anyone to agree with me 100% of the time, either.

I got called names several months ago and before I knew it I was continually called a leftist SJW Hillary-lover. I've even been accused of being a Muslim because I don't agree with the gov slamming the 1st Amendment.

I do NOT support Hitlery- but neither do I support Trump. It was his foreign policy speech that was the clincher for me. BUT- if YOU do that's OK. What's NOT OK are the insults.

From my POV, the anti-Trumpers get it continually, w/o any let up- but maybe I see it that way because I am anti.

SO- my point is:

If we are really all Liberty Lovers, let's start by having real dialog and being fair and kind to each other- even if we can't agree.