House to vote on affirming ‘In God We Trust’ as National Motto

[Sola_Fide]

If we trust in God, why do we have a monetary policy based on theft? Why is this motto put on our money when it is clear that our policy of debasement means that we don't trust God?

"Trusting God" means believing what He says in His word is right. Uh....we don't trust God.

How do we "trust in God" when we have a policy of central planning? Trusting in God nullifies trusting in the State.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I don't agree with "In God We Trust" as I do actually think it is a federal endorsement of religion which is not within the defined parameters of government and i think that "E pluribus unum" is a more appropriate national motto if we need one at all... But how is this an issue worth bringing up?

No, it is not an endorsement of religion. The prohibition for the congress was that they could not establish a FEDERAL denomination. The states had their own established churches at our founding.

The prohibition was for the federal government, not the states. And also "religion" meant "denomination", not "any mention of God."

 

[dejavu22]

No, it is not an endorsement of religion. The prohibition for the congress was that they could not establish a FEDERAL denomination. The states had their own established churches at our founding.

The prohibition was for the federal government, not the states. And also "religion" meant "denomination", not "any mention of God."

I understand where you are coming from and i am not saying that you are wrong but i always looked at this as one of the areas of the constitution that did fall into interpretation. The way I see it is that any state is allowed to do whatever they want. Although i would not support it in any way i have no problems "constitutionally speaking" with what Mass and other states did in the early years of the country. On the other hand even though constitutionally it is acceptable i always took the Jeffersonian belief in the wall of separation that he spoke of later in his life and believe that religion has no place in the federal government. Removed from currency, pledge, schools, courts etc.

 

[bobbyw24]

House Passes ‘In God We Trust’ Measure

The House passed a resolution reaffirming that the nation’s motto remains “In God We Trust” on a 396-9 vote today.

The resolution does not change existing law. Instead, it expresses the sense of the House that the motto remains the same and should be displayed in public places.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/house_passes_in_god_we_trust_measure-209949-1.html

 

[bobbyw24]

Ron Paul did not vote on this bill

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll816.xml

 

[eduardo89]

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll816.xml

Fox News: "Ron Paul hates God"


Edit: Bachmann didn't vote either, why doesn't she resign her seat? She's never there. Nevermind, she needs the paycheck to feed her 28 children.

Smash voted no...wonder why?

 

[bluesc]

The hilarious thing is that the reddit crowd were saying this was all Republican, calling it ridiculous, ect. I'd like to show them the roll call now.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It's a cotton candy bill. essentially meaningless, but gives legislators the opportunity to smile for cameras and talk about how much they care. Kinda like voting for gold as the State mineral, NASCAR as the State sport, and some random town as the official home of the fatback festival.

Cotton candy bills were the only bills freshmen were allowed to bring to the floor in NC this year. I didn't introduce any cotton candy bills.

 

[eduardo89]

It's a cotton candy bill. essentially meaningless, but gives legislators the opportunity to smile for cameras and talk about how much they care. Kinda like voting for gold as the State mineral, NASCAR as the State sport, and some random town as the official home of the fatback festival.

Cotton candy bills were the only bills freshmen were allowed to bring to the floor in NC this year. I didn't introduce any cotton candy bills.

You should have brought a bill congratulating Ron Paul on being the champion of liberty and the most conservative member of congress!

 

[GunnyFreedom]

You should have brought a bill congratulating Ron Paul on being the champion of liberty and the most conservative member of congress!

LOL! that would have never made it out of committee, I guarantee it.

 

[PastaRocket848]

this is disgusting. "in god we trust"... ummm... no. in god you trust maybe. i trust only in myself and my family. to make a statement like that only reinforces the fact that in america you're "free to accept jesus christ as your savior any way you choose" lol. we have religious freedom, just not freedom FROM religion. our motto should be "i don't know.. and neither do you".

 

[oyarde]

It's a cotton candy bill. essentially meaningless, but gives legislators the opportunity to smile for cameras and talk about how much they care. Kinda like voting for gold as the State mineral, NASCAR as the State sport, and some random town as the official home of the fatback festival.

Cotton candy bills were the only bills freshmen were allowed to bring to the floor in NC this year. I didn't introduce any cotton candy bills.

Well , count me in for the fatback festival

 

[stuntman stoll]

It makes God look bad to be associated with the US government.

The motto should be: "In government, Keynes, and democracy we trust."

 

[Zap!]

If Ron Paul opposed it, at least he did the smart thing and missed the vote. He should have done the same thing with DADT, citing scheduling problems. I can't believe that little weasel Amash voted no. I'm done with him, paleo-cons are so much better.

 

[eduardo89]

paleo-cons are so much better.

+1

 

[limequat]

If congress can do this, it can also change it to "Allah Akbar"

 

[eduardo89]

If congress can do this, it can also change it to "Allah Akbar"

It could, but that wouldn't make much sense. The United States is built upon Christian traditions.

 

[Zap!]

Any liberal who ever tells me we need to change the motto on our currency, I tell them "Fine. We'll change it to In Jesus We Trust." That usually shuts their traps.

 

[mczerone]

Isn't "trusting monotheism" endorsement of religion?

 

[Sola_Fide]

If Ron Paul opposed it, at least he did the smart thing and missed the vote. He should have done the same thing with DADT, citing scheduling problems. I can't believe that little weasel Amash voted no. I'm done with him, paleo-cons are so much better.

I think Amash had good reasons:

“The fear that unless "In God... We Trust" is displayed throughout the government, Americans will somehow lose their faith in God, is a dim view of the profound religious convictions many citizens have,” said Amash, a first-term freshman.“

The faith that inspired many of the Founders of this country—the faith I practice—is stronger than that,” Amash wrote. “Trying to score political points with unnecessary resolutions should not be Congress's priority.”

Can't argue with that. I would vote no too if I was in congress.

Actually, "from many, one" is a fine motto I think....because it begins with the presupposition of the individual.

Statists believe "from one, many".