Hong Kong and Taiwan Are Bonding Over China

[AngryCanadian]

freedom and independence

The US government said it wants Spain to remain united amid the ongoing dispute over Catalan independence.

"I think Spain is a great country, and it should remain united," Trump said.

HK can get a independence but not Catalan because Spain is a puppet. Why HK? because itchy to get military bases.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Nice illusion.

Thank you for exposing your true feelings about freedom and independence but we here at this site actually believe in them and won't be bending the knee to the "middle kingdom".

History is History. You Americans had always meddled in the past in so many countries but ironical never meddle or start such protests in Saudi Arabia whose people are also oppressed and women rights are to zero.

Now you want us to meddle in more countries?
Saudi Arabia is the result of British meddling not American meddling, I don't see your beloved China doing anything about it either, in fact you guys seem to be buddying up to them.
I guess one oppressive barbarian regime feels a kinship for another.

don't talk to me about this nonsense of freedom and independence.

Thank you for exposing your true feelings about freedom and independence but we here at this site actually believe in them and won't be bending the knee to the "middle kingdom".

Maybe its really time for America just to worry about your nation that is sinking in its social hierarchy and structure.

I advocate for just exactly that.
But China should also stop imposing itself on other people and that includes Hong Kong.

The less America meddles in Asia/China Iran/ME the better America will gain its respects back on the world stage.

And the more China imposes itself on others the less respect it will get.
China will also collapse soon.

 

[Swordsmyth]

freedom and independence





HK can get a independence but not Catalan because Spain is a puppet. Why HK? because itchy to get military bases.

I supported Catalan independence.

You seem unable to fathom the idea of people supporting things on their own instead of always siding with one government's dictates or another.

China wanted Catalan independence because it wants to see the EU collapse and it supported Crimea because it is allied with Russia.
In spite of the fact that I generally oppose China I supported both because they had a right to liberty and independence or to join Russia.

 

[Swordsmyth]

This is truly comical. Your accusing me of Xi supporter and being Chinese for not supporting a clear regime change color revolution. What you Americans tried to do in Venezuela was the same as the one in HK.

No difference, just different people and place.
The regime change in Venezuela failed.

You support Catalonia and Crimea but you don't support the people of Hong Kong or Venezuela.
It's completely obvious that your only principles are the interests of Communist China.

 

[AngryCanadian]

You support Catalonia and Crimea but you don't support the people of Hong Kong or Venezuela.
It's completely obvious that your only principles are the interests of Communist China.

Hong Kong or Venezuela

NGO funded protest movements. The same as the ones in Moscow.

 

[Swordsmyth]

NGO funded protest movements. The same as the ones in Moscow.

But Catalonia and Crimea were pure and holy because they serve ChiCom interests, right, AngryChinaman?

 

[eleganz]

Because China has no rights to defend her own borders and territories? America shouldn't be meddling in Asia nor in HK. America already did enough harm by its regime changes and this in HK is another regime change which i am rather find it hilarious to see some on ronpaulforums defending a regime change and obvious color revolution.

Yes HK does belong to China, as evidenced by UK returning HK.

But HK wants to leave, as evidenced by the millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK. I know plenty of HK'ers and believe me, hating on Mainland is not a hip 2019 thing.

So let them leave if they want to. But you keep making this about America or UK. Its not about any of that. The people of HK want to GTFO of Mainland's grasp, how can you not support them on that?

Look you want to be against the American empire, whatever thats cool. But don't be so against the empire that you won't even afford freedom seekers the respect of aligning who they wish to align with to help them gain their freedom.

No matter if you are libertarian or not, being aligned with the west = far more freedom than if you are controlled by China.

Maybe you haven't been to China or don't understand the CCP's culture. You will though, if nothing is done. And you won't like it.

Freedom is NOT popular. HK should get all the help that they want, if we help them, thats a risk that we take.

Also to another post you made. Taiwan is not necessarily apart of China, as much as China claims it is.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Yes HK does belong to China, as evidenced by UK returning HK.

But HK wants to leave, as evidenced by the millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK. I know plenty of HK'ers and believe me, hating on Mainland is not a hip 2019 thing.

So let them leave if they want to. But you keep making this about America or UK. Its not about any of that. The people of HK want to GTFO of Mainland's grasp, how can you not support them on that?

Look you want to be against the American empire, whatever thats cool. But don't be so against the empire that you won't even afford freedom seekers the respect of aligning who they wish to align with to help them gain their freedom.

No matter if you are libertarian or not, being aligned with the west = far more freedom than if you are controlled by China.

Maybe you haven't been to China or don't understand the CCP's culture. You will though, if nothing is done. And you won't like it.

Freedom is NOT popular. HK should get all the help that they want, if we help them, thats a risk that we take.

Also to another post you made. Taiwan is not necessarily apart of China, as much as China claims it is.

But HK wants to leave, as evidenced by the millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK.

Your American lying Maisntream News Media outlets always lies about the actual number of protestors whatever they are in Moscow or HK. Whenever such a protest happens your beloved FOX News, MSNBC or whichever go blitzkrieg onto the claims.

"Over Million Protestors are protesting in Moscow Against Russia and Putin"

Just because your MSM claims that there are millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK doesn't always mean its the truth.

Look you want to be against the American empire, whatever thats cool. But don't be so against the empire that you won't even afford freedom seekers the respect of aligning who they wish to align with to help them gain their freedom.

Save your Neocon talk. They will have their freedom as long as they become American/British puppets again.

Soros must be very happy to know that Americans are supporting his NGOs efforts in HK.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Yes HK does belong to China, as evidenced by UK returning HK.

But HK wants to leave, as evidenced by the millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK. I know plenty of HK'ers and believe me, hating on Mainland is not a hip 2019 thing.

So let them leave if they want to. But you keep making this about America or UK. Its not about any of that. The people of HK want to GTFO of Mainland's grasp, how can you not support them on that?

Look you want to be against the American empire, whatever thats cool. But don't be so against the empire that you won't even afford freedom seekers the respect of aligning who they wish to align with to help them gain their freedom.

No matter if you are libertarian or not, being aligned with the west = far more freedom than if you are controlled by China.

Maybe you haven't been to China or don't understand the CCP's culture. You will though, if nothing is done. And you won't like it.

Freedom is NOT popular. HK should get all the help that they want, if we help them, thats a risk that we take.

Also to another post you made. Taiwan is not necessarily apart of China, as much as China claims it is.

Its not about any of that. The people of HK want to GTFO of Mainland's grasp, how can you not support them on that?

Oh yes it is about America and Britain who do you think militarily occupied HK when Britain was in Asia? and tried to militarily take over beijing? the British. The fact those so called protestors were waving both American flags and the flag of the British empire days.

Really speaks volume. It would be no different from a Jihadist in Syria asking for a military intervention.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Yes HK does belong to China, as evidenced by UK returning HK.

But HK wants to leave, as evidenced by the millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK. I know plenty of HK'ers and believe me, hating on Mainland is not a hip 2019 thing.

So let them leave if they want to. But you keep making this about America or UK. Its not about any of that. The people of HK want to GTFO of Mainland's grasp, how can you not support them on that?

Look you want to be against the American empire, whatever thats cool. But don't be so against the empire that you won't even afford freedom seekers the respect of aligning who they wish to align with to help them gain their freedom.

No matter if you are libertarian or not, being aligned with the west = far more freedom than if you are controlled by China.

Maybe you haven't been to China or don't understand the CCP's culture. You will though, if nothing is done. And you won't like it.

Freedom is NOT popular. HK should get all the help that they want, if we help them, thats a risk that we take.

Also to another post you made. Taiwan is not necessarily apart of China, as much as China claims it is.

No matter if you are libertarian or not, being aligned with the west = far more freedom

Freedom AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THE NARRATIVE.


I have being already labelled by you fake freedom supporters as a communist for not supporting this obvious regime change and protest movement which had being started up by NGOs and including by Soros as well.

You don't support the brave protestors? you must be a communist or a propagandist of China! if anything this protesting that is happening in HK is exposing you NeoCons that love protests whenever they fit your interests.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh yes it is about America and Britain who do you think militarily occupied HK when Britain was in Asia? and tried to militarily take over beijing? the British. The fact those so called protestors were waving both American flags and the flag of the British empire days.

Really speaks volume. It would be no different from a Jihadist in Syria asking for a military intervention.

Freedom AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THE NARRATIVE.


I have being already labelled by you fake freedom supporters as a communist for not supporting this obvious regime change and protest movement which had being started up by NGOs and including by Soros as well.

You don't support the brave protestors? you must be a communist or a propagandist of China! if anything this protesting that is happening in HK is exposing you NeoCons that love protests whenever they fit your interests.

But Catalonia and Crimea are pure and untouched by either Russian or ChiCom meddling.

Sure.


All legitimate movements are immediately infiltrated by powers who will benefit from them, you will never find a movement that isn't, therefore you must judge the movement itself and not its backers.

Hong Kong is right and China is the greater evil.
Crimea was right and Catalonia was right.

You clearly only support movements that benefit Chinese interests.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Your American lying Maisntream News Media outlets always lies about the actual number of protestors whatever they are in Moscow or HK. Whenever such a protest happens your beloved FOX News, MSNBC or whichever go blitzkrieg onto the claims.

"Over Million Protestors are protesting in Moscow Against Russia and Putin"

Just because your MSM claims that there are millions on the streets against the 6M population of HK doesn't always mean its the truth.

Just because your ChiCom media claims there are only a few protestors organized by western powers doesn't always mean its the truth.

Save your Neocon talk. They will have their freedom as long as they become American/British puppets again.

Soros must be very happy to know that Americans are supporting his NGOs efforts in HK.

Save your ChiCom talk. They will be safe from the west as long as they become slaves to the Chinese Communist Party.
Emperor Xi must be very happy to know that you support his minions' efforts in Hong Kong.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Just because your ChiCom media claims there are only a few protestors organized by western powers doesn't always mean its the truth.


Save your ChiCom talk. They will be safe from the west as long as they become slaves to the Chinese Communist Party.
Emperor Xi must be very happy to know that you support his minions' efforts in Hong Kong.

Save your ChiCom talk. They will be safe from the west as long as they become slaves to the Chinese Communist Party.
Emperor Xi must be very happy to know that you support his minions' efforts in Hong Kong.

How very mature of you. No wonder you support the clown trump who isnt doing anything about the Walls and using this as a distraction to get away from his failures on trade deals in Europe etc.

In Europe Trump is being mocked.

Just because your ChiCom media claims there are only a few protestors organized by western powers doesn't always mean its the truth.

My ChiCom media? your rather comical with that one. You might as well just support John Bolton on his regime change in Iran while your at it.

 

[AngryCanadian]

But Catalonia and Crimea are pure and untouched by either Russian or ChiCom meddling.

Sure.


All legitimate movements are immediately infiltrated by powers who will benefit from them, you will never find a movement that isn't, therefore you must judge the movement itself and not its backers.

Hong Kong is right and China is the greater evil.
Crimea was right and Catalonia was right.

You clearly only support movements that benefit Chinese interests.

All legitimate movements are immediately infiltrated by powers who will benefit from them

The one in HK is dam different. You Americans would be using HK agaisnt China "tit for tat"

And you clearly only support movements that benefit American and British interests.

 

[Swordsmyth]

How very mature of you. No wonder you support the clown trump who isnt doing anything about the Walls and using this as a distraction to get away from his failures on trade deals in Europe etc.

In Europe Trump is being mocked.



My ChiCom media? your rather comical with that one. You might as well just support John Bolton on his regime change in Iran while your at it.

You're exposing yourself more with every post.

Trump is building the wall and he is winning the trade wars.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The one in HK is dam different. You Americans would be using HK agaisnt China "tit for tat"

Because you say it is?
The party's word isn't law here.

And you clearly only support movements that benefit American and British interests.

That must be why I support Crimea and Catalonia.
My record of supporting both is quite long.

You've lost, your cover is blown.
Give up.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Your exposing yourself more with every post.

Trump is building the wall and he is winning the trade wars.

Trump is building the wall

We shall see i have my doubts on it.

Ann Coulter could be right about Trump on his walls,security promises not being fully implanted.

he is winning the trade wars

How he is winning the trade while his being mocked by Euporean leaders? and laughed at by Chinese? not even the Iranians are taking him seriously.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We shall see i have my doubts on it.

Ann Coulter could be right about Trump on his walls,security promises not being fully implanted.

Thanks for confirming her and Romney as ChiCom agents.
She is embarrassingly wrong.

How he is winning the trade while his being mocked by Euporean leaders? and laughed at by Chinese? not even the Iranians are taking him seriously.

They can laugh but it is they who will collapse if they don't agree to play fair, America is turning around while they are all sinking fast.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Thanks for confirming her and Romney as ChiCom agents.
She is embarrassingly wrong.



They can laugh but it is they who will collapse if they don't agree to play fair, America is turning around while they are all sinking fast.

America is turning around while they are all sinking fast.

 

[Swordsmyth]

America is turning around while they are all sinking fast.