Hong Kong and Taiwan Are Bonding Over China

[dannno]

China has become the world’s second-largest economy and a major military power while still spending more on domestic security, including concentration camps that perhaps hold up to 2 million Muslims in Xinjiang.

Wtfsicle

 

[eleganz]

It seems Taiwan and Hong Kong don't mind becoming the next Kosovo agaisnt China or becoming puppets to Britain seeing how protestors in Hong Kong are waving British imperialist flags.
Go figure that kinda exposed on what their stance is. You arent independent if you become puppet to someone else.

You may not like that HK prefer to be British than Chinese but British rule over HK is what made them often in the top 3 rankings of freest economies in the world.

HK gave us Jackie Chan. Speaking of which, I wonder if he has been in hiding ever since the protests erupted. He's been firmly in the pocket of the CCP for the last decade or so but is the pride of HK. We certainly live in interesting times.

 

[AngryCanadian]

You may not like that HK prefer to be British than Chinese but British rule over HK is what made them often in the top 3 rankings of freest economies in the world.

HK gave us Jackie Chan. Speaking of which, I wonder if he has been in hiding ever since the protests erupted. He's been firmly in the pocket of the CCP for the last decade or so but is the pride of HK. We certainly live in interesting times.

HK is still part of China and that is something America nor Britain cant take away. This would be like the Russians telling you Americans to giveup southern states for Mexico. Under the claims of self Independence.

America and Britain would love to retake over in HK and Taiwan just so they could build military bases so they could be near china, do you think that the Chinese are that foolish and don't what America and UK are planning?


America/NATO wanted a naval base in Crimea. Why do you think they are still not over what happened in Crimea? they lost a major sea port.

 

[Swordsmyth]

HK is still part of China and that is something America nor Britain cant take away. This would be like the Russians telling you Americans to giveup southern states for Mexico. Under the claims of self Independence.

America and Britain would love to retake over in HK and Taiwan just so they could build military bases so they could be near china, do you think that the Chinese are that foolish and don't what America and UK are planning?


America/NATO wanted a naval base in Crimea. Why do you think they are still not over what happened in Crimea? they lost a major sea port.

Liberty lovers should support any society that wants to split from an authoritarian regime, we shouldn't interfere as a nation but supporting the ChiComs is unthinkable in this case.

 

[Swordsmyth]

America/NATO wanted a naval base in Crimea. Why do you think they are still not over what happened in Crimea? they lost a major sea port.

So you support Crimea's right to leave Ukraine but not Hong Kong's right to leave China?

 

[AngryCanadian]

Liberty lovers should support any society that wants to split from an authoritarian regime, we shouldn't interfere as a nation but supporting the ChiComs is unthinkable in this case.

By your same logic would you say that for those seeking self Independence in America? even when America itself is not an authoritarian regime?

 

[AngryCanadian]

So you support Crimea's right to leave Ukraine but not Hong Kong's right to leave China?

Crimea's right to leave Ukraine was voted on a ballot. A result which Western countries aligned with NATO didn't like, the same can not be said about Hong Kong. When considering you have many NGOs operating in HK who are pushing to leave. The same NGOs behind the protests in Moscow.

 

[Swordsmyth]

By your same logic would you say that for those seeking self Independence in America? even when America itself is not an authoritarian regime?

I support the right to secede, there may be a lower limit to the size of a seceding area but that is a different matter.
And America may not quite be an authoritarian regime but it is too close to being one if it isn't.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Liberty lovers should support any society that wants to split from an authoritarian regime, we shouldn't interfere as a nation but supporting the ChiComs is unthinkable in this case.

but supporting the ChiComs is unthinkable in this case.

Because China has no rights to defend her own borders and territories? America shouldn't be meddling in Asia nor in HK. America already did enough harm by its regime changes and this in HK is another regime change which i am rather find it hilarious to see some on ronpaulforums defending a regime change and obvious color revolution.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Crimea's right to leave Ukraine was voted on a ballot. A result which Western countries aligned with NATO didn't like, the same can not be said about Hong Kong. When considering you have many NGOs operating in HK who are pushing to leave. The same NGOs behind the protests in Moscow.

China would not allow such a vote.
What do you do when such a vote isn't allowed?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Because China has no rights to defend her own borders and territories? America shouldn't be meddling in Asia nor in HK.

The American government shouldn't be meddling but China doesn't have a right to impose its authoritarian regime on an unwilling populace.

 

[AngryCanadian]

The American government shouldn't be meddling but China doesn't have a right to impose its authoritarian regime on an unwilling populace.

doesn't have a right to impose its authoritarian regime on an unwilling populace.

You mean the same populace which had being groomed by NGOs? promising nice things? these protests are not organic.

 

[AngryCanadian]

The American government shouldn't be meddling but China doesn't have a right to impose its authoritarian regime on an unwilling populace.

If you support the regime change in Hong Kong you might as well support the regime change in Iran.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You mean the same populace which had being groomed by NGOs? promising nice things? these protests are not organic.

How do you know they would be protesting anyway?
China is not a nice regime.
Your supposition that western meddling is the only cause of the protests doesn't make the ChiComs the good guys, western meddling may be wrong but the western meddlers are better than China.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If you support the regime change in Hong Kong you might as well support the regime change in Iran.

It would depend on what the locals wanted to replace it with, I don't support American intervention in either case.

 

[AngryCanadian]

The American government shouldn't be meddling but China doesn't have a right to impose its authoritarian regime on an unwilling populace.

Do you know what happens afterwards? traitors like these protest leaders whatever in HK or Serbia always get rearward for their actions agaisnt their own country and countrymen. But the protesters never get anything in return. They are sheep who follow the leader promised of promises but never getting anything.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Do you know what happens afterwards? traitors like these protest leaders whatever in HK or Serbia always get rearward for their actions agaisnt their own country and countrymen. But the protesters never get anything in return. They are sheep who follow the leader promised of promises but never getting anything.

If they avoid being put under the mainland regime that will be better than not.

The ChiCom regime is the biggest evil on the planet.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You mean the same populace which had being groomed by NGOs? promising nice things? these protests are not organic.

And you think Russia had no influence on the Crimea vote?

 

[AngryCanadian]

And you think Russia had no influence on the Crimea vote?

Ironic using the example of Crimea. Or like how America and EU prevented Catalonia's self Independence? even though when they claimed they had no influence?

 

[AngryCanadian]

If they avoid being put under the mainland regime that will be better than not.

The ChiCom regime is the biggest evil on the planet.

The ChiCom regime is the biggest evil on the planet.

By comparison then i would be saying that America's regime is the most kindest and nicest as long you follow the narrative and script. Lets all ignore the CIA black ops centers and among other issues.