Home invasions in Brooklyn by armed thugs posing as FEMA workers. ALERT!

I actually respect that, but think that a second term with Obama may very well be the final nail in the coffin when it comes to the constitution. The balance in the SCOTUS is at risk as much as the first and second amendments.
If Ron Paul decides to endorse the lesser of the two evils, will you also part ways with him?
I just happen to believe that Ron Paul is my defacto leader/representative at the moment and the whole fucking coup currently represented by Robomneysachs can suck my sack; I wouldn't honor either of them with my vote, support, or piss if they were on fire.
 
If you are correct then the republic is lost...
and all of this is mute..... I have personally been so blessed and have enjoyed a long and fruitful life, but I hate that many of my fellow Americans and lovers of freedom will not enjoy the same. You know, I never truly understood the statement that "life is short" until this moment...it truly is, and it hurts.
Never going to happen. I've been watching that smirk on Paul's face for way too long.
 
As far as you SCOTUS comment, I wanted to post a response that sums up exactly how I feel about either candidate choosing the next justices:


it is a sign of how insane our country has become that this case is even in question

That was in refrence to warrantless forced dui blood draws...

but you look at the rest of the big cases right now...

can a cop come to your front door with a drug dog?

can a cop come onto your property and hide cameras?

If a drone happens to see a crime in progress while over private property without a warrant is it admissable?

It goes on and on.
 
If you are correct then the republic is lost...

The republic may be lost. But not because Ron Paul stands on principle. Because many others, like Romney, don't.

and all of this is mute.....

Just because we're typing, instead of speaking on the phone? Or do you mean 'moot'?

I have personally been so blessed and have enjoyed a long and fruitful life, but I hate that many of my fellow Americans and lovers of freedom will not enjoy the same. You know, I never truly understood the statement that "life is short" until this moment...it truly is, and it hurts.

Life is too short, and the state of the republic too precarious, to abandon your line in the sand and go with the general who promises that he won't retreat from liberty as far as the other general will retreat from liberty. You were so brave back in the day, why are you being cowardly now?

We told you people how to beat Obama. We had independents and even liberal Democrats all lined up to cleanse the corruption from Washington by reducing it to Constitutional levels and letting states take over the social safety net. And the polls plainly showed to anyone who bothered to look that it was working--Paul was the one who could have been beating Obama right now--not just because of us but because of the independents we impressed with his integrity. But you people listened to Limbaugh and Hannity tell you how to lose, rather than march with us so we could win. And now you sit back high and mighty and try to shift the blame on us. Our shoulders may be broad enough, but we won't wear the blame. We shall merely shrug it off.

Fixing Washington requires bravery. Voting the lesser of evils because you're afraid of the other evil is cowardice born of a reluctance to stray from the herd. That simple. And it's no way to effectively protect and defend the Constitution.
 
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Your point is accepted....I suppose we can add the imminent domain decision to that list as well. A surprise that the Heller DC decision went the way that it did. I have been considering the possibility that this Constitution has simply reached a point where it is no longer sustainable, for whatever reason, but that Romney would afford us a little more time than Obama...guess a few years doesn't matter to some, but it does to me.
As far as you SCOTUS comment, I wanted to post a response that sums up exactly how I feel about either candidate choosing the next justices:




That was in refrence to warrantless forced dui blood draws...

but you look at the rest of the big cases right now...

can a cop come to your front door with a drug dog?

can a cop come onto your property and hide cameras?

If a drone happens to see a crime in progress while over private property without a warrant is it admissable?

It goes on and on.
 
The republic may be lost. But not because Ron Paul stands on principle. Because many others, like Romney, don't.



Just because we're typing, instead of speaking on the phone? Or do you mean 'moot'?



Life is too short, and the state of the republic too precarious, to abandon your line in the sand and go with the general who promises that he won't retreat from liberty as far as the other general will retreat from liberty. You were so brave back in the day, why are you being cowardly now?

We told you people how to beat Obama. We had independents and even liberal Democrats all lined up to cleanse the corruption from Washington by reducing it to Constitutional levels and letting states take over the social safety net. And the polls plainly showed to anyone who bothered to look that it was working--Paul was the one who could have been beating Obama right now--not just because of us but because of the independents we impressed with his integrity. But you people listened to Limbaugh and Hannity tell you how to lose, rather than march with us so we could win. And now you sit back high and mighty and try to shift the blame on us. Our shoulders may be broad enough, but we won't wear the blame. We shall merely shrug it off.

Fixing Washington requires bravery. Voting the lesser of evils because you're afraid of the other evil is cowardice born of a reluctance to stray from the herd. That simple. And it's no way to effectively protect and defend the Constitution.
+1
 
The lights are going out...under Obama, much quicker than under Romney, which gives the real freedom fighters a little more time to mount a defense...IMHO for what it's worth.
 
The lights are going out...under Obama, much quicker than under Romney, which gives the real freedom fighters a little more time to mount a defense...IMHO for what it's worth.

I think the opposite is true. We'd be stuck with Romney for 8 more years. O just 4. Granted a lot of damage can be done in 4 but at least we know how O works. We have NO idea what damage Romney has planned.
 
I'm thinking of Obama's plans of dismantling the entire energy sector, like tripling the costs of gasoline and electricity to force us off of fossil fuels whether or not we are ready for the transition or not. I see Romney as being more about rebuilding the economy and returning us to a previous era. I am in agreement with the move away from fossil fuels however because they are unsustainable and nasty, I just don't think we have the infa structure necessary to achieve it, and what with the wars and other expenditures we have had aren't going to be able to build it without a sounder economy than we have under the current admin. As a senior on retirement, I see Obama as the guy most likely to give me help but I don't think there's much left for him to give me. Please don't get angry with me, you may very well be correct.
I think the opposite is true. We'd be stuck with Romney for 8 more years. O just 4. Granted a lot of damage can be done in 4 but at least we know how O works. We have NO idea what damage Romney has planned.
 
As a senior on retirement, I see Obama as the guy most likely to give me help but I don't think there's much left for him to give me.

As someone who has been voting Libertarian since 1984, I'm not taking responsibility for that either.

And if Romney is going to get us into another proper war as opposed to Obama's police actions, then there will be less of what you earned available to you. Remember, it was Dubya who raided the Social Security trust fund, requiring that stuff to come entirely out of payments or debt, rather than interest income as before.

I'm not saying Obama's any kind of an improvement. I was telling Democrats five years ago that he wasn't. They didn't believe me then; they do now. I'm just saying that, until we get our heads out of this short term lesser evil trap, things will continue to get worse, not better. Maybe they'll get worse faster under this one or that one, maybe not. But they won't get better. And the only way to get enough people out of that trap to fix this mess is to set them a good example.

And that's what I will continue to do. Until I die, get locked up for it, or see the problem fixed, whichever comes first. Because preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution doesn't mean telling the guy who will destroy half of it to go ahead, just because some other guy will destroy five eighths of it.

I guess that's possible. There have only been 3 one term Presidents since WWII. Two of the three were Republicans.

And there was one Republican one and a half term president, too. The law and order guy who had to be pardoned to keep an American president out of prison.

Just because a Republican says something doesn't make it true. Kind of like Democrats. No, I take that back. Exactly like Democrats.
 
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i was a State Delegate for Ron Paul in 2008, and a County Delegate for Ron in 2012. Ask me how that went.

I don't have to. You saw the Republic taken out of the Republican Party.

Yes, this is a republic, mundane. Men fought and died to keep it this way, and make sure your voice counts. Now shut up and get your toes back on that line.
 
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