High Fructose Bait and Switch

[Romulus]

Gatorade G2 is NOW low calorie and contains SUCRALOSE instead of High Fructose corn syrup. Watch out for many other products to follow suit, many 'sugar free' products already have. Notice no more 'splenda' labels? This is why.. the sucralose is flying in under the radar.

Time to boycott anything that doesn't use real sugar.

 

[tmosley]

Why? Sucralose is fine. People have a choice, you know.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I try to avoid artificial sweetners. I am not convinced they are any better than sugar or safe. The same was once thought of high fructose corn syrup (which was introduced becasue there was concern about people consuming too much sugar) or aspertame. Sucralose was invented during research into creating a new pesticide.

http://www.medicinenet.com/artificial_sweeteners/page9.htm

Sucralose: What is the negative side?

A lot of the controversy surrounding sucralose stems from the fact that it was discovered while trying to create a new insecticide. The claim that it is made from sugar is a misconception about the final product. According to the book Sweet Deception, sucralose is made when sugar is treated with trityl chloride, acetic anhydride, hydrogen chlorine, thionyl chloride, and methanol in the presence of dimethylformamide, 4-methylmorpholine, toluene, methyl isobutyl ketone, acetic acid, benzyltriethlyammonium chloride, and sodium methoxide, making it unlike anything found in nature. The Splenda Web site even states that "although sucralose has a structure like sugar and a sugar-like taste, it is not natural." The product Splenda is also not actually calorie-free. Sucralose does have calories, but because it is 600 times sweeter than sugar, very small amounts are needed to achieve the desired sweetness. The first two ingredients in Splenda are dextrose and maltodextrin, which are used to increase bulk and are carbohydrates that are not free of calories. One cup of Splenda contains 96 calories and 32 grams of carbohydrates, which is substantial for people with diabetes but unnoticed due to the label claiming that it's a no calorie sweetener.

The name sucralose is another misleading factor. The suffix -ose is used to name sugars, not additives. Sucralose sounds very close to sucrose, table sugar, and can be confusing for consumers. A more accurate name for the structure of sucralose was purposed. The name would have been trichlorogalactosucrose, but the FDA did not believe that it was necessary to use this so sucralose was allowed.

The presence of chlorine is thought to be the most dangerous component of sucralose. Chlorine is considered a carcinogen and has been used in poisonous gas, disinfectants, pesticides, and plastics. The digestion and absorption of sucralose is not clear due to a lack of long-term studies on humans. The majority of studies were done on animals for short lengths of time. The alleged symptoms associated with sucralose are gastrointestinal problems (bloating, gas, diarrhea, nausea), skin irritations (rash, hives, redness, itching, swelling), wheezing, cough, runny nose, chest pains, palpitations, anxiety, anger, moods swings, depression, and itchy eyes. The only way to be sure of the safety of sucralose is to have long-term studies on humans done.

I am glad that Gatorade has versions with and without artificial sweetners but not all products do. I don't consume lots of sugar so when I do have sweets I will opt for real sugar over either HFC or artificial sweetners. Too much of any of them (including basic sugar) aren't good for you.

 

[dannno]

Stevia is an excellent non-sugar natural sweetener. It even helps people with diabetes regulate their blood sugar.

It is a crime that the FDA once raided healthfood stores for selling it.

I don't care for diet soda, and regular soda is too sweet to drink all the time.. but recently i've been picking up a few of these bad boys, they are actually pretty good... much better than diet soda, you can tell when the fizz is gone that it does actually taste pretty similar to sugar, sort of like a sugar/artificial sweetener hybrid (except it isn't bad for you)

My favorites are the Dr. Zevia (not pictured), Ginger Root Beer and the Cola is ok as well.

 

[Working Poor]

Why? Sucralose is fine. People have a choice, you know.

I don't know about you but that $h!+ makes me sick as hell. The first time I ever had it I thought I needed to go to the hospital which is something I never want to do because my heart hurt me so bad. It happens to me when ever I have anything with nutra- sweet, sucralose, HFCS, splenda, sweet-n-low, equal, or anything else that is not just cane sugar. It is getting damm hard to get food that does not have it in it. Anything in a package could have it in it even bread. It is very scarey to me. I can't even take an offer for a piece of gum without taking my life in my hands...

I can't travel anymore because of it. It is hard to be on the road and not eat some convenience store junk food at least sometimes.

 

[Romulus]

Zippy, you cant get the G2 kind without sucralose anymore. The G2 is the one with electrolytes vs the regular stuff.

Why? Sucralose is fine. People have a choice, you know.

LMAO. A Choice? Try finding ANYTHING with real sugar? Ha! It's blind fools who keep supporting these artificial sweetend products which leads to a lack of choice.

Now that public has finally been educated about HFCS, you'll see consumers making EDUCATED choices. The problem is, people are still idiots when it comes to health.. low calorie = healthy! And they slide in ASPARTAME or now, SUCROSE and remove the 'spenda' logo. It deceptive marketing and suckers fall for it a lot.

Lets not pretend an artificial sweetener is somehow magically good for you.

 

[dannno]

I don't know about you but that $h!+ makes me sick as hell. The first time I ever had it I thought I needed to go to the hospital which is something I never want to do because my heart hurt me so bad. It happens to me when ever I have anything with nutra- sweet, sucralose, HFCS, splenda, sweet-n-low, equal, or anything else that is not just cane sugar. It is getting damm hard to get food that does not have it in it. Anything in a package could have it in it even bread. It is very scarey to me. I can't even take an offer for a piece of gum without taking my life in my hands...

I can't travel anymore because of it. It is hard to be on the road and not eat some convenience store junk food at least sometimes.

I accidentally called stevia an artificial sweetener above until I made the edit, but I changed it to natural non-sugar sweetener.

Have you tried it before?

Apparently it's great for mixing 50/50 with sugar for low calorie desserts that still taste really good.

 

[Zippyjuan]

One of the concerns of artificial sweetners is how the body responds when you consume them. One study showed that people consuming artificial sweetners ended up eating more and gaining more weight. The fake sugar in the mouth told the body that sweet food is coming and get ready to handle it. When the sugary food does not show up, the body still want the food it was promised so you eat more. While it may be natural in source, I am wondering if stevia would have the same effect since it also has a multiple of the sweetness that ordinary sugar has. Purely speculation on my behalf- certainly. But it fits with this recent report:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021101069.html

Sugar Substitutes May Contribute to Weight Gain

By Randy Dotinga
HealthDay Reporter
Monday, February 11, 2008; 12:00 AM

MONDAY, Feb. 11 (HealthDay News) -- Surprising research suggests a popular artificial sweetener has the unexpected and unwelcome effect of packing on the pounds.

Purdue researchers report that saccharin altered the ability of rats to control their appetites. However, the head of an artificial sweetener trade group scoffed at the findings, saying they don't necessarily translate to humans.

"We found that the rats that were getting artificially sweetened yogurt gained more weight and ate more food," said study author Susan Swithers, an associate professor of psychological sciences at the Ingestive Behavior Research Institute at Purdue University. "The take-home message is that consumption of artificially sweetened products may interfere with an automatic process."

That process, she said, involves the body's ability to detect that it will soon be full. "We often will stop eating before we've been able to absorb all of the calories that come from a meal. One of the reasons we might stop eating is that our experience has taught in the past that, 'After I eat this food, I'll feel this full for this long,' " she explained.


It seems to be a subconscious process based on automatic estimations of how much energy certain foods will provide, she said. For example, a sweet taste might be a sign that "calories are coming, and I should prepare my body for the arrival of those calories." However, when the sweetness is not followed by a lot of calories, the body's digestive system gets confused, and the metabolism rate does not gear up as much the next time sweetness is tasted.

To test this theory, the researchers fed two different types of plain Dannon yogurt to male rats. Some received yogurt sweetened with glucose, a form of sugar, while others ate saccharin-sweetened yogurt. All also ate unsweetened yogurt.

The rats who ate artificially sweetened yogurt consumed more food overall and gained more weight. The body temperatures of those rats also didn't rise as high as the others. "That might be a kind of measure of energy expenditure, suggesting not only are the animals eating more calories, they may be expending or burning up fewer calories," Swithers said.

The findings were published in the February issue ofBehavioral Neuroscience.

Essentially, she said, it appears that the bodies of the rats are learning to not expect much in the way of calories from sweet foods. "The artificial sweetener provides the signal that not as many calories are going to come, and the animal responds by consuming more calories."

As for humans, she said, previous research has provided conflicting indications about whether obesity is a bigger problem among people who use artificial sweeteners.

According to her, launching a similar study among people would be difficult, because few have never encountered artificial sweeteners before. The next step, she said, is to do more research in rats.

Lyn Nabors, president of the Calorie Control Council trade group, lambasted the study, saying it has "no basis in science" and "no relation to the human experience whatsoever."

Artificial sweeteners can help people lose weight, she said. "The scientific community firmly believes that calories in, calories out is what makes a difference. The recommendation is that you reduce calories and exercise if you want to lose weight."

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Gatorade G2 is NOW low calorie and contains SUCRALOSE instead of High Fructose corn syrup. Watch out for many other products to follow suit, many 'sugar free' products already have. Notice no more 'splenda' labels? This is why.. the sucralose is flying in under the radar.

Time to boycott anything that doesn't use real sugar.

Who cares?

 

[BuddyRey]

This isn't what Hunt's ketchup is doing, I hope!

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Why not make your own ketchup? I do it

http://www.pickyourown.org/ketchup.htm

 

[dannno]

While it may be natural in source, I am wondering if stevia would have the same effect since it also has a multiple of the sweetness that ordinary sugar has. Purely speculation on my behalf- certainly.

Ya my body doesn't complain too much when I drink some zevia and then stuff it full of whole grains and vegetables...

People need to stop eating crap.. good, natural wholesome food can taste delicious, especially if that's what you are used to eating.. My body craves food because it is nourishing, not because it contains components of trickery. Artificial sweeteners are not the only substances guilty of making people eat more.. so is HFCS.. but really it all depends on what you are eating more of.

 

[squarepusher]

hey guys, real sugar isn't that healthy either.

 

[Romulus]

hey guys, real sugar isn't that healthy either.

I know, but the real thing is better than a synthetic substitute, right?

 

[Todd]

I know, but the real thing is better than a synthetic substitute, right?

Yep. Anything natural is better. What Danno said about Stevia is spot on too. It can be a bit bitter on the aftertaste though. There's one called Nu Stevia though that has gotten rid of the bitterness.

I've also read that sacharine after years of being considered dangerous is off the bad list and is probably the most safe of the artificial sweetners. If you're going to use one, then I prefer this one.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Arsenic is natural too. "natural is better" is not necessarily true. As a nutritional point, "natural" really doesn't mean much. But I would agree that natural sugar is probably better for you than any of the artificial ones but would limit my consumption of all of them- including natural sugar.

 

[DamianTV]

We dont have any real choices we can make in this country, we only have the illusion of choice, or the ghost of choice. That is enough to satisfy most people. I dont buy it.

So here is your healthy choice. My new artificial sweetener, I'll call it Arsenic, is much healthier than the synthesized Cyanide we used to put in your drink...

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Stevia is an excellent non-sugar natural sweetener. It even helps people with diabetes regulate their blood sugar.

It is a crime that the FDA once raided healthfood stores for selling it.

I don't care for diet soda, and regular soda is too sweet to drink all the time.. but recently i've been picking up a few of these bad boys, they are actually pretty good... much better than diet soda, you can tell when the fizz is gone that it does actually taste pretty similar to sugar, sort of like a sugar/artificial sweetener hybrid (except it isn't bad for you)

My favorites are the Dr. Zevia (not pictured), Ginger Root Beer and the Cola is ok as well.

I bought a 6-pack of Zevia last week at whole foods... The problem I have with it, is that it also lists Erythritol as an ingredient.. even before it lists stevia. So it would appear it still contains an artificial sweetener

 

[rancher89]

I'm not sold on the new "stevia" they are marketing...."purvia" "truvia" et al. The names alone scare me, if I were to invent a new way to market something that was natural, but had to adulterate it so the sheeple public could use it like they were using the real thing........I'd call it something that sounds non threatening and safe.

We still don't know how they are processing the stevia to make these products and what the filler is. The boxes and the websites have absolutely no information on what they are adding or how they process it.

I'm sticking to real sugar for now or the stevia I grow......

 

[KCIndy]

LMAO. A Choice? Try finding ANYTHING with real sugar? Ha!

Most Sam's Clubs sell Mexican Coca-Cola made with real sugar. For those who are old enough to remember, it's just like Coke was before the whole "New Coke" debacle back in the mid 80s.