Herman Cain in Full Damage Control mode

[ZanZibar]

This is going off as planned for TPTB. Time to remove the Cain distraction and prop up Romney.

Fox spent yesterday morning bashing Mitt FYI

 

[Cabal]

I hate to side with Rush (when has that ever happened??) but I am surprised how many people here are jumping on the bandwagon just because it furthers our agenda. I'm not saying that its true or false, I don't know. But this reminds me way too much of what the media did to Clarence Thomas, and those allegations WERE totally false and baseless.

That being said, I don't think Herman Cain is worth supporting for other reasons, and would be pleased if we get more supporters.

Jumping on the bandwagon? Which bandwagon might that be? The one of truth, and vetting a candidate for their conduct in their personal life? I don't think it's too much to ask of a presidential candidate to be honest when asked a simple, straightforward question after what appears to be compelling allegations arise from multiple sources.

I don't know whether the sources are accurate or not, whether he's guilty or not; but I certainly know that I expect a simple answer to a simple question which Cain still has yet to be able to provide as far as I'm concerned. Instead of simply answering the allegations which he had plenty of opportunity to do, he brushed them off and elected a childish path of belligerence instead even as he spewed forth a storm of venomous partisan rhetoric directed at Politico, deserving or not. If this is the only way he knows how to respond to criticism or concern--which he has shown over and over again--I would content that speaks volumes about his composure (or profound lack thereof) with regard to being the leader of a nation.

A top tier candidate in arguably one of the most influential and important presidential races in the past 2 decades is scrutinized by the media... big surprise. And he has the audacity to play the victim card? Please. He knew damn well this would surface sooner or later, and has had plenty of heads-up, yet he acts like he's been totally broadsided out of nowhere. What a fake. What a fraud. His guilt or innocence isn't even the concern, if it ever was, it's his perpetual failure to handle tense situations where all eyes are on him and he is put into question that's the issue here; at least to me. If he is guilty of true sexual harassment, that's just another reason in an ever growing list of why this man shouldn't have even contemplated running for presidential office. The arrogance on this guy is astounding.

And that's not even the worst part. The worst part is that so-called conservative republicans are still clinging to this knuckle-dragging phony. Faith in humanity -9000.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

NBC confirms one Cain accuser received cash settlement

NBC News has confirmed that one woman received a settlement from the National Restaurant Association after complaining about inappropriate sexual conduct by Herman Cain.

NBC News is not disclosing the name of the woman nor characterizing who she is.

Cain denied the allegations, saying on FOX this morning he was "falsely accused." "I have never sexually harassed anyone, anyone," he said, "and absolutely, these are false accusations."

Jeff Flock on FOX BUSINESS stated a coupe of hours ago, that both sexual harassment situations resulted in undisclosed hush money payouts aka (settlements).

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Jeff Flock on FOX BUSINESS stated a coupe of hours ago, that both sexual harassment situations resulted in undisclosed hush money payouts aka (settlements).

Then again, that's a double edged sword. There is financial incentive for a person to lie and get a payout... I have seen it happen in corporate America, many times. Give a lawyer and a disgruntled employee an opportunity, and they occasionally take it.

 

[PastaRocket848]

twice independently though?

 

[Gravik]

I posted the Huffpost article where Paul called out Cain about the Fed. NExt thing I know I got banned.

The only opposing candidate that I haven't gotten banned from yet is Perry.

Romney is still the most pathetic though. I got banned for posting a youtube video of him talking about his positions on medical marijuana where he it totally against it.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

twice independently though?

Actually, I have seen cases where a group of women all filed separately, after talking amongst themselves. Office gossip spreads like wildfire. And this was mostly about a top manager who told inappropriate jokes, and did ask one of the women out in the past.

 

[ZanZibar]

His eyes are seriously blood shot.

He was probably up all night.

 

[angelatc]

Fox spent yesterday morning bashing Mitt FYI

I think it's a Rove / Gingrich tactic.

 

[smartguy911]

Still up. https://www.facebook.com/#!/THEHermanCain?sk=wall

The link doesn't work for me either and I never even posted on their FB

 

[angelatc]

Then again, that's a double edged sword. There is financial incentive for a person to lie and get a payout... I have seen it happen in corporate America, many times. Give a lawyer and a disgruntled employee an opportunity, and they occasionally take it.

Nobody knows but the two people who were in the room, and I'm not a fan of people being able to recover money because they were made to feel "uncomfortable" either. But speaking as a female, I'm convinced that 95% of the accusations are legitimate.

I've worked in corporate America too, and I've seen the good ol' boy network refuse to rein in their own.

 

[angelatc]

The link doesn't work for me either and I never even posted on their FB

Link works for me.

 

[kylejack]

The link doesn't work for me either and I never even posted on their FB

Are you logged into your Facebook account?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I think it's a Rove / Gingrich tactic.

You know, this Cain attack could help Newt in the long run. People will be tired of sexual themed "controversies" by the time Newt gets his chance at frontrunner...

 

[eleganz]

Seriously, you don't offer to settle if you were guilty or the other party had evidence and threatened to use it.

 

[TexMac]

You know, this Cain attack could help Newt in the long run. People will be tired of sexual themed "controversies" by the time Newt gets his chance at frontrunner...

People NEVER get tired of sexually themed controversies.

 

[kylejack]

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain for the first time has offered a detailed recollection of what led an employee of the National Restaurant Association to lodge a sexual harassment charge against him when he was CEO of the organization.

Cain spoke in response to detailed questioning from Fox News' Greta van Susteren, who led Cain through the facts of the case in an extended interview. That interview was taped to be shown on Fox Monday night.

Cain told van Susteren that he remembered one woman who was a writer in the Association's communications department. "I can't even remember her name, but I do remember the formal allegation she made in terms of sexual harassment," Cain said. "I turned it over to my general counsel and one of the ladies that worked for me, the woman in charge of human resources. They did investigate…and it was found to be baseless."

Van Susteren asked Cain how often he saw the woman. "I might see her in the office because her office was on the same floor as my office," Cain said. Van Susteren asked whether the woman traveled with Cain, who spent a lot of time on the road speaking to restaurant associations around the country. "No, never," Cain said.

Cain said the woman was "younger than I was," but he could not recall her age. Pressed, he said, "It would have had to have been late 30s, early 40s."

Van Susteren asked what Cain did that led to the accusation. There were reportedly more than one accusations in the complaint, but Cain said he recalled just one incident. "She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying -- and I was standing close to her -- and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, 'My wife comes up to my chin.'" At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin. "And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable," Cain said, "something that was in the sexual harassment charge."

Van Susteren asked whether the woman complained at the time. "I can't recall any comment that she made, positive or negative."

The interview with Fox is part of a series of interviews Cain is making this week. The press offensive was originally planned to discuss Cain's economic plans, but has turned into a series of questions about the sexual harassment allegations from the 1990s.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...fidential/cain-details-gesture-led-sex-charge

Hm, I'm guessing he is choosing only to remember the least inflammatory charge.

 

[TexMac]

http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...fidential/cain-details-gesture-led-sex-charge

Hm, I'm guessing he is choosing only to remember the least inflammatory charge.

Probably because Politico wrote about one that happened at a hotel when he was at an event with a female colleague. She called it "unwanted sexual advances."

 

[PastaRocket848]

this is going to go away. the "conservative media" have made it clear this is going to be a "mean old democrats keeping the black conservative down" theme. cain wont stumble, unless something even bigger blows up. i'm half convinced this was cover for the FEC story which is actually serious and is now buried by this.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Nobody knows but the two people who were in the room, and I'm not a fan of people being able to recover money because they were made to feel "uncomfortable" either. But speaking as a female, I'm convinced that 95% of the accusations are legitimate.

I've worked in corporate America too, and I've seen the good ol' boy network refuse to rein in their own.

No doubt that people feel uncomfortable at times, especially when sexual jokes and innuendos are thrown around. And there is no doubt that the good ole boy (or just the good ole management team) covers for their own. Cain probably did say something inappropriate. He seems to spend a lot of time with his foot in his mouth.

Like I said earlier, rape, assault, etc. are "real" (i.e. universally established) crimes. There are laws against that, as there well should be.

This whole idea of someone being uncomfortable in their own mind becoming a crime or a violation is ludicrous. If someone says something that another person doesn't like, they can tell them they don't like it. They can call them a jerk. Sexual innuendo is a part of life. People being attracted to other people is a part of life. It dominates every aspect of our lives, especially the media, entertainment and advertising. And there's absolutely nothing objective about this new thought-crime. The cool, good looking young person can say or do anything and everybody loves it. The person who is a jerk or otherwise unattractive can be attacked based on something that most people can get away with. We have pretty much agreed that Cain sometimes acts like a arrogant jerk. Is this why he might have had a "sexual harassment" charge in his past? And we can't over look the financial potential of making that kind of charge.

There are so many other policy and competence reasons to not vote for Cain, why get mad at him for being a jerk, or get all excited because someone has accused him of being a jerk in the past (and got paid for doing it)?