Here’s why Rand Paul would probably be beating Hillary Clinton right now

[osan]

http://rare.us/story/heres-why-rand-paul-would-probably-be-beating-hillary-clinton-right-now/

A few things.

Firstly, a senatorial race is not the same as presidential. To imply that Paul's senatorial polling would be identical to presidential is not sound, IMO.

Secondly, "young voters" are mostly morons, I hate to say. There is no appealing to the bunnies 'n light contingent, save for making promises to them identical to those of the jackass party. Then what? You get elected on those promises and... You lose no matter what you do in office. Make good on promises and conservatives will remember in four. Tell the millennial that he doesn't understand American humor, and he will remember.

I cannot believe how many people are missing the broader and more fundamental points here. You CANNOT broaden your conservative appeal to these other groups... mainstream black, hispanic, millennial, and so forth without making the promises that will turn your other supporters away from you. Generally speaking, the voting blocks in question are fundamentally opposed to liberty and all that it would require of them. They hate it, in fact, and do not recognize it as liberty at all, but rather as a vision of hell on earth. Their definition of "freedom" is basically a nanny state whose men with guns ensures their right to butt-fuck to their heart's content and get "free" stuff, no matter from whom it must be stolen. We are talking of morally bereft people who don't give a rat-fuck about who must be stepped upon, so long as their vision of utopia is made real enough. These are wanton, craven, bitter-with-envy, hateful people who want what they want and will support anyone willing to use muscle to get it for them.

If you think Rand Paul or anyone else can "appeal" to such people without becoming a whore to them, you are not playing with a full deck.

This narrative is completely and insanely hosed.

 

[osan]

No Rand would not be beating Clinton either. Liberty is too extreme.

You surely got that bit right as rain.

 

[osan]

Rand would not have had a chance in places like Pennsylvania. I'm not buying it. Does anyone think that Rand would be hammering TPP and illegal immigration in a clear, unfettered fashion like Trump has? Those are the issues that resonate in the decimated Rust Belt.

Rand equivocates, even if only implicitly, and that is one reason he's going nowhere... at least in this environment.

Whatever his other faults may be, you have to hand it to Trump for speaking plainly, clearly, with little equivocation. This is what people want, for better or worse.

Rand would have been likely hurt by the same regional schism that would have limited Cruz's appeal, sans places like Colorado and New Hampshire. And let's not ever get started with the NeverRand movement that would have likely emerged from the usual suspects.

You bet. ANY threat to the orthodox order would be met with force. What do people think, that the righteous light of candidate Rand Paul's saintly goodness (no sarcasm there at all, seriously) would somehow and miraculously correct the ignorance, corruption, and fear that drives the typical American voter? Come now, that is naïve worthy of the iron bar.

The "better" a candidate is for US, the more vehemently will he be opposed. This ain't rocket surgery, folks.

 

[osan]

In poll after poll Clinton leads Trump overall.

That is no longer true. Trump appears to be catching up and overtaking it.

And the only reason she's leading Trump is because people don't like Trump. And people don't like Trump because he's an ass.

Nonsense. They don't like Trump because they have been TOLD not to like him. Christ's sake man... these nitwits on the so-called "left" can't think for themselves even if their lives depended on it. They have been trained to be offended by God damned near everything, so when some horse-poo media outlet makes unsubstantiated assertions that Trump is a homophobe, the chromos eat it up. Why? Because they have been trained to WANT to be offended and afraid. They seek it, probably without even being aware of it. Media says Trump hates "latinos" (God I despise that hideous term) and nearly every hispanic rushes to apolplexy. Why? Because they have been trained to seek it. Black folk... "Ahma gaat... d'nigggih RAYcis..." Same story, different "trigger". The environmentalist phags uncritically accept that he will destroy the earth within 20 minutes of his inauguration. And on down the line. Every stooge and other useful idiot has been conditioned to react in certain ways and they do it like clockwork.

Trump may or may not be an ass - I suppose that, like beauty, lies in the eye of the beholder - but that fact has NOTHING to do with the opinions many people hold of him.

Trump would be leading right now if he hadn't decided to pick a fight with a Goldstar family.

Once again - NONSENSE. That family has been exposed as being of questionable character and motivation, at the freakishly 4th-sigma best. He called them on their bullshit and was right to do so.

And now he's trying to make up for it by dancing all over the place on immigration.

That may be the case. I don't watch TV so cannot say. He has gaffed. He's new to this shit, and I would say that this actually recommends him.

One cannot go based completely on what a candidate says during a campaign. We all know the reality ends up being widely different from the promising.

 

[osan]

He's been a Grade A gadfly to Obama.

Yeah, but Bammy's a pussy. Hillary has a 13" cock, backed up by a huge pair of testicles and will not be afraid to use them. There won't be a dry eye in the house.

He's already got a long head start on ferociously discrediting Clinton on emails, Benghazi, gun running to terrorists, etc. He'll be in a prime bully pulpit and he'll be relentless once she's in office.

You assume Hillary will not simply have him killed. Don't be too quick to dismiss this possibility. Just look at the long line of dead bodies in its wake. That can't all be simple, freakish coincidence, can it?

Clinton is going to go balls to the walls, I suspect, from day one. Unlike the pansy Obama, it is a battle-hardened porno-stud. If it will be seated as the result of rigging, then likely it shall be that the second term will be the same. If that is the case, it has absolutely no reason not to go for the gusto from day one, and I believe it will leave us pining for the days of Bammy.

 

[KEEF]

A few things.

Firstly, a senatorial race is not the same as presidential. To imply that Paul's senatorial polling would be identical to presidential is not sound, IMO.

Secondly, "young voters" are mostly morons, I hate to say. There is no appealing to the bunnies 'n light contingent, save for making promises to them identical to those of the jackass party. Then what? You get elected on those promises and... You lose no matter what you do in office. Make good on promises and conservatives will remember in four. Tell the millennial that he doesn't understand American humor, and he will remember.

I cannot believe how many people are missing the broader and more fundamental points here. You CANNOT broaden your conservative appeal to these other groups... mainstream black, hispanic, millennial, and so forth without making the promises that will turn your other supporters away from you. Generally speaking, the voting blocks in question are fundamentally opposed to liberty and all that it would require of them. They hate it, in fact, and do not recognize it as liberty at all, but rather as a vision of hell on earth. Their definition of "freedom" is basically a nanny state whose men with guns ensures their right to butt-$#@! to their heart's content and get "free" stuff, no matter from whom it must be stolen. We are talking of morally bereft people who don't give a rat-$#@! about who must be stepped upon, so long as their vision of utopia is made real enough. These are wanton, craven, bitter-with-envy, hateful people who want what they want and will support anyone willing to use muscle to get it for them.

If you think Rand Paul or anyone else can "appeal" to such people without becoming a whore to them, you are not playing with a full deck.

This narrative is completely and insanely hosed.

So true, I think the best thing for this country would be a wake up call to the nanny state, like a complete economic collapse, so that millennials have to get off the tit.

 

[FreedomsReigning]

Rand doesn't have the spine to win this fight. He dropped out and called Trump dirt. I don't stand with people who think of me as dirt.

Goodbye Rand Paul.

 

[CPUd]

Rand doesn't have the spine to win this fight. He dropped out and called Trump dirt. I don't stand with people who think of me as dirt.

Goodbye Rand Paul.

Strong 12th post.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

#RONPaul2020

 

[jmdrake]

That is no longer true. Trump appears to be catching up and overtaking it.

And then he took a dive last night.

Nonsense. They don't like Trump because they have been TOLD not to like him.

Oh good grief. You can't be that stupid! They told people to hate Ron Paul too. While Ron didn't win he has a high favoribility rating despite the "newsletter" controversy and despite being on record against the civil rights act because people at least believe he is honest. Donald Trump has been caught in too many lies. Republicans hate Donald Trump and not just the Bushite elitist republicans.

Christ's sake man... these nitwits on the so-called "left" can't think for themselves even if their lives depended on it. They have been trained to be offended by God damned near everything, so when some horse-poo media outlet makes unsubstantiated assertions that Trump is a homophobe, the chromos eat it up. Why?

Actually the gays pushed Trump through to the GOP nomination. It was Ted Cruz who got the "homophobe" label. Trump has taken on the gay agenda of destroying Christianity.

Trump may or may not be an ass - I suppose that, like beauty, lies in the eye of the beholder - but that fact has NOTHING to do with the opinions many people hold of him.

You admit that he may be an ass but you don't think that has anything to do with what opinion someone has of him? You can't possibly be that stupid.

Once again - NONSENSE. That family has been exposed as being of question]able character and motivation, at the freakishly 4th-sigma best. He called them on their bull$#@! and was right to do so.

Only a complete stupid f*ck like you would say ^that. Their son was killed in Iraq. Trump took a college deferment to keep from going to Vietnam. And this b*llsh*t argument that somehow the dad was only upset because he was an immigration lawyer just shows how ignorant you and your fellow Trump supporters are about immigration law.

IF TRUMP WERE TO GET HIS EXTREME VETTING PLAN PASSED MR. KHAN WOULD STAND TO MAKE MILLIONS BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE FOR MUSLIM IMMIGRATION LAWYERS!

Mr. Khan is upset for good reason. Trump said "Ban all Muslims from coming in" when his family paid the ultimate sacrifice for Bush's stupidity. When IRA terrorism was going on, Great Britain didn't say "Ban all Catholics."

But let's say if you are right. You're not. You're argument is simply moronic. But let's say if you were. It was still stupid as hell for TRUMP to attack the Khans. He should have left that up to surrogates. When the Benghazi families came on during the GOP convention, Hillary didn't attack them. She let Chris Matthews do it.

That may be the case. I don't watch TV so cannot say. He has gaffed. He's new to this $#@!, and I would say that this actually recommends him.

Inexperience is no excuse. On election day Donald Trump will not be "graded on the curve." If he wasn't ready for prime time then he shouldn't have run. And you know who initially recommended him to run?

^That should tell you all you need to know. Talk about improper motivation.

One cannot go based completely on what a candidate says during a campaign. We all know the reality ends up being widely different from the promising.

At the end of the day what is said during a campaign is all that matters. If you don't get that right you'll never get the chance to do anything else.

 

[osan]

You can't be that stupid!... You can't possibly be that stupid... Only a complete stupid f*ck like you would say ^that... how ignorant you... are... You're argument is simply moronic...

Well, if I am so stupid, why are you putting in so much effort to refute my words?

your fellow Trump supporters are about immigration law.

I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm not voting for him, so methinks you've managed here to jam both your feet into your mouth, to the hips.

Dunno what's eating you, but it can't be me because I am so stupid, as you point out four times in one post alone. Being my clear superior in intellect, it could not possibly be the case that you would allow yourself to be so bothered by a mere simpleton such as myself. That, of course, raises the question of what, then, has you in such a knot?

Would you like to share with us?