Here Comes the Spin....

If he doesn't win the GOP nomination I would love to see him run third party. On debate stage against Obama and Gingrich he would make them both look like the fools they are.

If he ran third party they most likely would not invite him to the debates.
 
you guys are seriously annoying the shit out me!!!! stop talking about ron endorsing anyone for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!! we should be arguing over which candidate left will be endorsing ron!

You got that right!

Ron Paul can still win this thing!
 
He says these things because he knows Newt and Romney will never ever be true constitutional candidates. If they woke up one day and realised what Ron was doing and what they are doing, and if they decided to join the cause of Liberty, great. We should welcome them.

But they won't. We know it and Ron knows it. So he has nothing to lose by inviting the others to change their positions, in doing so he is emphasising that he will not change his positions, and he will soften up supporters of the other candidates when they see Gingrich and Romney take on Pauls positions as their own.
 
Ron would never support Gingrich.

That's what he said.

Come on. What really are the odds that Gingrich will suddenly, after all these years, stop being a tool and embrace Ron Paul's sensible foreign policy? Fourteen trillion to one or so against?

You got that right!

Ron Paul can still win this thing!

The nominee is chosen by delegates. The delegates must come from every state and cannot be paid to be delegates. Now, how are the one percenters going to pack the house? They aren't. We are.
 
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I get Paul's angle. It is rope-a-dope the dopes. Didn't you notice nobody attacked Paul? They want to co-opt him.
 
I look forward to Fourth-Wheel Frothy dropping out. It will make the marginalization of Ron Paul that much more obvious.....
 
I would support a Paul/gingrich cabinet. gingrich appears to have real possibilities with the people who will never support us. We have a mexican standoff. Who wants it more? Paul simply says Nah, I'm going home and gingrich says "Wait"

And then we have the white house with President Paul and VP Gingrich.

It could work.
 
I would support a Paul/gingrich cabinet. gingrich appears to have real possibilities with the people who will never support us. We have a mexican standoff. Who wants it more? Paul simply says Nah, I'm going home and gingrich says "Wait"

And then we have the white house with President Paul and VP Gingrich.

It could work.

This needed repeating in its own thread? Really?

Why, after we went to all the trouble to get him the nomination in the brokered convention, would he respond by doing that to us?
 
I think what he said was brilliant. The news shows might try to get Paul on now to talk about endorsing Gingrich. Then Ron Paul could simply say, "I have been saying these things about sound money for 30 years. Newt Gingrich just hitched his caboose to the back of my train."
 
Ron has very little political sense..I am starting to lose respect for Paul...what the f--k is he doing....playing into the media narrative. It is the worst thing he can do.
 
This needed repeating in its own thread? Really?

Why, after we went to all the trouble to get him the nomination in the brokered convention, would he respond by doing that to us?

What "we" did to get him a brokered convention? Whew, I have no interest in a brokered convention. I'm interested in getting Dr Paul into the white house. Doing what to who? Corraling big government, getting the bully pulpit of the white house for 4 years and electing a mostly Constitution friendly ( libertarian ) cabinet?

Sorry, I don't see your point here at all.
 
No, it wasn't. Its clear he wants Gingrich to win Florida, as it would be bad for Romney. He understands that Gingrich is inherently flawed, and wants him to siphon off delegates at this stage. After Florida he heads to NV and other caucus states to build his delegate count.

This. Gingrich isn't on the ballots in caucus states, however Romney is, so the less delegates Romney gets, the better.

So he has nothing to lose by inviting the others to change their positions, in doing so he is emphasising that he will not change his positions, and he will soften up supporters of the other candidates when they see Gingrich and Romney take on Pauls positions as their own.

It will also make his ideas not seem so radical if other candidates start adopting them.
 
Gingrich publicly stated that he would not support Dr. Paul if he won the nomination. The smartest thing Dr. Paul could do (if he doesn't get the nomination) would not to support Gingrich.
 
Ron has very little political sense..I am starting to lose respect for Paul...what the f--k is he doing....playing into the media narrative. It is the worst thing he can do.

I admit I started to feel the way you do and thought the same thoughts but then I realized that Ron Paul is smarter than you and me, he knows exactly what he is doing. Just give him your support and we can win this. If you cant do that just stay quiet and send money. Peace.
 
LOL what are the odds that Gingrich is going to come Ron's way on foreign policy. Basically what Ron said was "no, I will not be endorsing newt"

at least one person got the point +1 to you

More than 1, the screaming ninnies in the thread just don't actually want the votes we need to win. Paul's answer was spot-on here. There is no chance in hell that the Grinch goes non-interventionist, and Paul just took the obstructionist label and stuck it back to the Grinches forehead. It was masterful. Glorious even.

I've been saying since before Iowa that in order to win, the base is now built it's time to transition into coalition building. I then asked will the base allow Paul to build the coalitions he needs to win the nomination. The answer continues to be that a significant portion of our base simply will not allow the PCC to build the coalitions we need to win the nomination.
 
Ron has very little political sense..I am starting to lose respect for Paul...what the f--k is he doing....playing into the media narrative. It is the worst thing he can do.

With all due respect, you don't understand politics, but then again maybe I don't either. Playing the media like a harmonica is something Ron can and should do. The key is to make the media think our narrative is theirs. The message is pure, no fault using media whores to get it out.
 
I'm fine with Ron verbalizing that he could support someone like Newt if they came over to his side on the issues. It takes nothing away from Ron Paul if you know the man and how passionate he is on his principles. It only takes away from Newt when his supporters become exposed to the message of Liberty.

I can see Newt trying something such as getting the promise of RP's support in exchange for pulling troops out of non-critical areas such as Germany, Korea and Japan along with moves to audit the Fed and returning to a sound backed currency.
 
This is just media, not Ron. What do you expect? Just before the March primaries last time they wrote national headlines saying he dropped out and didn't correct it until after the primaries.
 
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