Help me find the 1981 vote condemning Israel for bombing Iraq

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Ron voted against it...I would like to point it out to some friends that think Ron Paul is anti-Israel.

Unfortunately, voting records are hard to come by.

This could be used as a campaigning tool as well.

 

[eduardo89]

you could try on thomas.gov, but that might be a longshot

 

[tsai3904]

I looked into this and I really don't think there was a vote on it. It was a UN Resolution that condemned Israel. You can find more on the UN Resolution here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_487

I looked at the votes in the House in 1981 around the time of the bombing and found nothing. Also, in Ron Paul's book on foreign policy, there's a chapter for 1981 and he doesn't mention anything about it.

 

[texasmuffleman]

I cannot find a congressional vote on this, either, but really would like to find it.

Something that may be of interest is an interview of Ron Paul by Jack Hunter. The topic of the interview is foreign policy with Israel. At 01:24 on the interview, they talk about the event.

http://www.ronpaul2012podcast.com/2011/12/08/rp2012-video-update-foreign-policy-israel/

 

[moderate libertarian]

Would this help:

Published 12:37 09.12.11 Latest update 12:37 09.12.11

If Obama treated Israel like Reagan did, he’d be impeached

Former President Ronald Reagan’s confrontations with Israel were harsh and personal, yet Republican conservatives revere him and the Jews remember him as a great friend.
By Chemi Shalev
Tags: Israel US Barack Obama Benjamin Netanyahu


Imagine if Israel would launch a successful preemptive strike against a country that is building a nuclear bomb that threatens its very existence, and the American president would describe it as “a tragedy”.

And then, not only would the U.S. administration fail to “stand by its ally”, as Republicans pledged this week, but it would actually lend its hand to a UN Security Council decision that condemns Israel, calls on it to place its nuclear facilities under international supervision and demands that it pay reparations (!) for the damage it had wrought.

And then, to add insult to injury, the U.S. president would impose an embargo on further sales of F-16 aircraft because Israel had “violated its commitment to use the planes only in self-defense”.

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-o...el-like-reagan-did-he-d-be-impeached-1.400542

 

[kkassam]

bump? I'd like to find this as well.

 

[W. E. Messamore]

Bump again. I've been scouring around for this and can't find it. All I find is old comment threads and forum threads where other people also can't find it. It's a claim a lot of Ron Paul supporters repeat, so I think it's important to have some substantive details and facts to back it up. Anybody have anything on this?

 

[eduardo89]

Bump again. I've been scouring around for this and can't find it. All I find is old comment threads and forum threads where other people also can't find it. It's a claim a lot of Ron Paul supporters repeat, so I think it's important to have some substantive details and facts to back it up. Anybody have anything on this?

Email the campaign? They surely have to have sources to back up their claims.

 

[W. E. Messamore]

I'm just floored that this isn't publicly available on the Internet already, especially if this is a vote Congress took. This should not be so hard to find. We should not have to contact the campaign. I'm wondering if the vote ever even happened, or whether this was just done by the UN and not an actual resolution of the US Congress. Someone prove my suspicion wrong? Pretty please??

 

[coffeewithchess]

I'm just floored that this isn't publicly available on the Internet already, especially if this is a vote Congress took. This should not be so hard to find. We should not have to contact the campaign. I'm wondering if the vote ever even happened, or whether this was just done by the UN and not an actual resolution of the US Congress. Someone prove my suspicion wrong? Pretty please??

This is not online, and you will not find it, because I do not believe there was ever a vote that Congress took on the matter.
When I contacted one of the campaign people, I got a response to a more recent article citing the story...but when I replied and pointed out the article did not link to the "official" vote or any source on it back then, I received no reply.

My guess would be that the United Nations perhaps voted on something, but I don't see much of anything that the Congress did so.
Would RP have voted against a condemnation of Israel though? Based off of his record alone, and some of his writings at the time, I would say yes...but without factual proof of any vote/speech, it shouldn't even be used.