Health Freedom: Freedom for Quacks from pesky government interference.

RonRules said:
Let's just start with Diabetes.

If you ever get it, go eat your grass clippings and if I do, I'll take insulin.

I can go on for thousands of others.
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Insulin is not a cure, its medication. You have to take it everyday the rest of your life. A cure would be you take the insulin, it fixes your imbalance, and you don't need to take it anymore. CTM can cure diabetes. Please list thousands of others.
 
James Madison said:
Go out and wrestle a rabid dog. You can have your magic herbs; I'll take something that won't get me killed.
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I don't know enough about rabies to comment on it. All I do know is its one of the smallest health problems in the U.S. You have a higher chance of being killed by a terrorist than rabies.
 
tttppp said:
I don't know enough about rabies to comment on it. All I do know is its one of the smallest health problems in the U.S. You have a higher chance of being killed by a terrorist than rabies.
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And do you know why? Because of Western medicine!
 
RonRules said:
Just saw this quote on Twitter:

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
~Thomas Paine
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I have a better one:


"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls who live under tyranny." ~Thomas Jefferson
 
tttppp said:
Based on the news, humans rarely catch it. Western medicine has nothing to do with it. Humans rarely get it in the first place.
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No. Because we figured out that if you receive a bite wound from a mammal suspected of carrying the Rabies virus, a vaccine must be given STAT. Immunizing our pets has also gone a long way toward limiting the spread of the virus.
 
James Madison said:
No. Because we figured out that if you receive a bite wound from a mammal suspected of carrying the Rabies virus, a vaccine must be given STAT. Immunizing our pets has also gone a long way toward limiting the spread of the virus.
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Even if there was no immunization, rabies still wouldn't even be on the map compared with other illnesses western medicine cannot cure. Our health care is bankrupting this country largely because of the crappy food we eat, and the thousands of medications we pump into everyone which don't cure anyone and create horrible side effects which cause us to take more meds.
 
James Madison said:
No. Because we figured out that if you receive a bite wound from a mammal suspected of carrying the Rabies virus, a vaccine must be given STAT. Immunizing our pets has also gone a long way toward limiting the spread of the virus.
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:rolleyes:

It is done to register your pets and makes Big Pharma lot's of money --gives us your money STAT.


Ten Vaccine Myths
 
tttppp said:
Even if there was no immunization, rabies still wouldn't even be on the map compared with other illnesses western medicine cannot cure. Our health care is bankrupting this country largely because of the crappy food we eat, and the thousands of medications we pump into everyone which don't cure anyone and create horrible side effects which cause us to take more meds.
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Smallpox says hi. TB and cholera say hi. Polio, malaria, bubonic plague, schistosomiasis, guinea worm, diptheria, typhoid fever, pertussis, meales, mumps, chicken pox, tetanus, botulism, toxoplasmosis, leishmaniasis, trypanosomiasis, and hepatitis B all say hi.

Sure there are problems with Western medicine. The chief one among these is falsely believing that eternal life can be obtained with enough vitamins, pills, and snakeoil. Many of the complaints on this board are a byproduct of this delusion. Dead is a natural process. It's the price we must pay for the priviledge of living our life. If only we could accept this, we could better appreciate the time given to us.
 
James Madison said:
Smallpox says hi. TB and cholera say hi. Polio, malaria, bubonic plague, schistosomiasis, guinea worm, diptheria, typhoid fever, pertussis, meales, mumps, chicken pox, tetanus, botulism, toxoplasmosis, leishmaniasis, trypanosomiasis, and hepatitis B all say hi.

Sure there are problems with Western medicine. The chief one among these is falsely believing that eternal life can be obtained with enough vitamins, pills, and snakeoil. Many of the complaints on this board are a byproduct of this delusion. Dead is a natural process. It's the price we must pay for the priviledge of living our life. If only we could accept this, we could better appreciate the time given to us.
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Alternative medicine can save peoples' lives, but that is not its primary component. The bulk of their clients are patients who are miserable due to their unhealthy bodies, but doctors just send them away because their tests can't find anything. What alternative medicine does is improve the quality of people's lives, something western medicine rarely does. Western medicine does nothing more than keep their patients alive so that they can buy more meds.

Chinese traditional medicine can cure more than you think. If you give it enough time, it can cure most diseases and imbalances.
 
James Madison said:
No. Because we figured out that if you receive a bite wound from a mammal suspected of carrying the Rabies virus, a vaccine must be given STAT. Immunizing our pets has also gone a long way toward limiting the spread of the virus.
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LOL, do you see the irony in your preaching the virtues of vaccines, but scoffing at homeopathy?!
 
farreri said:
Another irony. You'll take aspirin that come from the "magical herb" white willow bark and aspirin kills thousands a year!
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Just a little history of Bayer (makers of Bayer aspirin):

"The IG Farben and Bayer companies were never punished for financing Auschwitz's terrifying Josef Mengele or for delivering Cyclone B from Uerdingen."

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/bayer.html
 
donnay said:
You mean government regulated science--no thanks.
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I know...all of those evil scientists are in on this super secret conspiracy to kill everyone, including themselves.:rolleyes:

farreri said:
LOL, do you see the irony in your preaching the virtues of vaccines, but scoffing at homeopathy?!
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No I don't.

farreri said:
Another irony. You'll take aspirin that come from the "magical herb" white willow bark and aspirin kills thousands a year!
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"magical herb" was a joke and in reference to using homeopathy to treat something as serious as Rabies. We can learn a lot from nature.
 
farreri said:
RR,

1. How many people die per year as a result of alternative medicine?
2. How many people die per year as a result of science-based medicine?
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We don't know. Science based medicine is required to report adverse events including deaths but there are no such reporting requirements for alternative medicine. If they voluntarily report deaths, they lose business so they have an incentive not to report failures of treatment (even if the patients live). And we would need to break them down by deaths per patient visits- the vast majority of people use "conventional" medicine so in absolute numbers we would expect them to have more. Perhaps you can provide us with some numbers for alternative medicine deaths? And how many of those who died in either case would have died anyways (say a person is dying and the doctor- regular or alternative- tries some new risky proccedure to try to save them and the patient dies- did the treatment cause the death or fail to prevent it? If I have a major heart attack and go to the hospital and die there- did they cause my death? It will be reported as a patient death.
 
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