Head and Shoulders topping pattern forming on Gold?

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It could be.

Take a look.

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I see a (weak) left shoulder and MOST definately a head forming.

If this pattern plays out, Gold would get boofed all the way back to around $1000 or so.
 
Technical analysis legend Louise Yamada says the uptrend is intact:
Gold – Uptrends Hold
By Louise Yamada Technical Research Advisors, LLC ("LYA")
October 7 (King World News) - One might wish for nerves of steel to have watched Gold spot price (GOLDS-1,614.40) retreat as it did in two days, from roughly 1,800 to 1,600 (1,532 intraday), for about a 20% decline (see Figure 48)!! While we anticipated the need for a rest, given the accelerated advance to 1,900, the sudden steep decline experienced was swift and unsetting (in retrospect partly due to the margin increases). The short-term 2011 uptrend intersects near 1,600 which has now been regained, and could provide a good floor for consolidation. The 50% Fibonacci retracement level noted last month still rests at 1,561, with the 2008 weekly uptrend at 1,480, near the 1,475 low of early 2011.
From a technical perspective, strong uptrends remain in place thus far for Gold.
We can note that the current pullback following an extensive gain is within the framework of previous experiences: The 2006 advance of 74% resulted in a 22% decline; the 2007 advance of 59% resulted in a 34% decline and the current advance of 96% has thus far retreated 20%; so there is precedent for the relationships. Consolidation at current levels would be the most desirable outcome.
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Gold Versus the U.S. Dollar
We would be negligent if we didn’t readdress the historical relationship of Gold versus the U.S. dollar.
Historically, there has been a rule of thumb that Gold and the U.S. dollar tend to carry an inverse relationship to one another. For the most part, since 1996, that relationship appears to have held, with few short-lived exceptions (see Figure 49) including that which occurred from 2005 into early 2006, and in late 2009, as the U.S. dollar and Gold both rose simultaneously for a short time. These brief events should be considered anomalies, as perhaps should the recent 2011 rise in Gold against a somewhat flat, rather than declining, dollar.
If we go back a bit further into history toward the 1970s, one can see that there are periods during which the inverse correlation has not necessarily held, as in 1988-1992 for example, and in the late 1970s into 1980 (when Gold rose against a rather flat dollar). During the short-lived 2005-2006 event, we projected that any resumption of the inverse relationship would undoubtedly resolve in favor of the strong Gold uptrend in force. We felt Gold might be taking on a bull market of its own, irrespective of the dollar (or in addition to it) and was also rising against some other major currencies (and has continued to do so), as fiat money becomes more of a concern.
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Silver
One might look back to the 2008 period again and note that following a 93% advance in 2007-2008, that price took two severe drops, an initial one in early 2008 and a more extended one in the second half of 2008, for an overall decline of 58%. Thus far, the decline from the high is 47%, following the extended 170% advance from 2010 into 2011. There could be further profit-taking, notwithstanding interim rallies. Initial resistance now lies in the 33-37 range.
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http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn..._Louise_Yamada__Gold,_Silver_&_US_Dollar.html
 
Honestly you can get a chart to tell you anything you want it to tell you. TA is 90% luck and 10% self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Honestly you can get a chart to tell you anything you want it to tell you. TA is 90% luck and 10% self-fulfilling prophecy.

I couldn't agree more except that with so many people thinking they can actually see some sort of a trend it tends to affect the future moves and for lake of better words it becomes a perpetual self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
I couldn't agree more except that with so many people thinking they can actually see some sort of a trend it tends to affect the future moves and for lake of better words it becomes a perpetual self-fulfilling prophecy.

Perhaps temporarily, but market forces, aka economic laws, always win out in the end. With the fundamentals the way they are, and if the course is maintained, the currency is simply doomed. In such a scenario (and it isn't going to take 20 years either), and having the wisdom and knowledge of how the Government has acted in the past, and how historically Governments act, Gold & Silver will be king and whether the Government likes it or not, the people will be using it as the peoples money which maintains a stable store of value that the Government cannot take from them through counterfeiting. If you want to day-trade instead of smart plays then sure, you may want to worry a bit about self-fulfilling prophecies of TA, but for longs and smarter investors (knowing when to sell at the tip of the rally, and buy at the dip), TA is irrelevant. Fundamentals always trump TA.
 
Sometimes I think these technical analysis concepts like "head and shoulders" exist to make astrology seem rational by comparison..

Do you believe in the long term fundamentals or not? That's the only question that matters, everything else is "investment guru" horse poop...
 
Perhaps temporarily, but market forces, aka economic laws, always win out in the end. With the fundamentals the way they are, and if the course is maintained, the currency is simply doomed. In such a scenario (and it isn't going to take 20 years either), and having the wisdom and knowledge of how the Government has acted in the past, and how historically Governments act, Gold & Silver will be king and whether the Government likes it or not, the people will be using it as the peoples money which maintains a stable store of value that the Government cannot take from them through counterfeiting. If you want to day-trade instead of smart plays then sure, you may want to worry a bit about self-fulfilling prophecies of TA, but for longs and smarter investors (knowing when to sell at the tip of the rally, and buy at the dip), TA is irrelevant. Fundamentals always trump TA.

I know, I wasn't talking about the fundamentals of PM's but about the irrationality of chart technical analysis as a guide to trading of anything..
 
Honestly you can get a chart to tell you anything you want it to tell you. TA is 90% luck and 10% self-fulfilling prophecy.

Gold just hit a double-top at $1900 before it came crashing down.

The S&P formed a head and shoulders on the daily before recently getting starched.

TA matters.

Traders pay attention to it, and if you don't, and ignore it, your portfolio will suffer bigtime.
 
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Gold just hit a double-top at $1900 before it came crashing down.

The S&P formed a head and shoulders on the daily before recently getting starched.

TA matters.

Traders pay attention to it, and if you don't, and ignore it, your portfolio will suffer bigtime.


I see about 5 other times on the chart he posted where you can see double or even triple tops break down. Every time it was false and gold rallied. TA works very well every time in HINDSIGHT, but especially in such a macro-fundamental environment, it is almost useless in real time. As I was becoming an equity trader I thought TA was the holy grail and I read everything I could about it, but the more I studied the more I came to realize it offered little to no advantage.

This doesn't mean price action means nothing, but I don't consider that in the same category as TA.
 
Compare the price action of gold and oil during the last two quarters with their price action the two quarters before the october 08 crash...interesting.

As far as gold's technicals, compare it to the m3 money supply over the last couple decades.

In general, use fundamentals to determine a position, then use technicals for entry/exit points.

I wouldn't get involved in silver unless i was buying the physical metal or trading the trend. Do not expect a lot of logical moves there. Any asset that can and will move 5-10% on any random day like it is drinking a glass of water isn't exactly stable. I have suspicions that there are faaaarrrr more futures contracts than physical silver (at least what it available for trade).
 
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