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Spread this far and wide. The revolution is not over yet!
Spread this far and wide. The revolution is not over yet!
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"He united the states of America" JOHN ADAMS starting Sunday on HBO
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sophocles07
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The video didn't work, but I'm pretty sure it's just my computer.
I looked it up elsewhere; Giamatti's a good actor, he'll do well.
They better pull this off well also though, in general.
I looked it up elsewhere; Giamatti's a good actor, he'll do well.
They better pull this off well also though, in general.
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SWEET! Looks great!!!
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Next time, bump an old thread instead of creating a new one. 
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I admire his courage, but I didn't like his decisions after the revolution (didn't he do the Alien & Sedition Acts)?
That being said, it will be interesting to see Hanks' portrayal of the Revolution.
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Yeah, Adams was the Alien & Sedition Acts.
Adams was a fascinating character though. I can't get enough of his biographies.
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After watching "1776" (a movie based on the musical) I was very impressed with John Adams, and thought Ron Paul was more of a John Adams than a Thomas Jefferson, but I admit I don't know much about the actual historical figure outside of what I saw in the movie.
I am looking forward to this HBO special, and I recommend the movie "1776".
I am looking forward to this HBO special, and I recommend the movie "1776".
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why not?
He was behind the Sedition Act. It was one of the worst abuses of free speech ever in the US. Basically it made it a crime to say anything bad about the US, the president or congress (but not the Vice President because he didn't like Jefferson) and if you did you could go to jail for up to 20 years. He was also a federalist and wanted a strong federal government and weak state governments. Adams was the anti-Jefferson
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Interesting to note that Adams was influenced by Jonathan Mayhew, a preacher who set the Apostle Paul's words in his Letters to the Romans (Romans 13) on it's ear.
At that time, there were many in the clergy who were using the same argument that the clergy is using now, that you must submit to government since it's ordained by God.
History keeps repeating...
It was on this day, January 30, 1750 that Jonathan Mayhew preached his Discourse Concerning Unlimited Submission and Non-resistance to the Higher Powers. In it he took to task those who used some words by Paul in the New Testament to argue that the colonists must obey King George III whether he was right or wrong. Paul had written that we are to obey authorities. They are instituted by God, serve God, and exist to do us good. We should obey not just for fear of punishment but for conscience's sake.
"Here the apostle argues, that those who resist a reasonable and just authority, which is agreeable to the will of God, do really resist the will of God himself; and will, therefore, be punished by him," said Mayhew. "But how does this prove, that those who resist a lawless, unreasonable power, which is contrary to the will of God, do therein resist the will and ordinance of God? Is resisting those who resist God's will, the same thing with resisting God?"
"Common tyrants, and public oppressors, are not intitled to obedience from their subjects, by virtue of any thing here laid down by the inspired apostle." To illustrate his point Mayhew raises a similar case. "Suppose God requires a family of children, to obey their father and not to resist him...Suppose this parent at length runs distracted, and attempts, in his mad fit, to cut all his children's throats: Now, in this case, is not the reason before assigned, why these children should obey their parent while he continued of a sound mind, namely, their common good, a reason equally conclusive for disobeying and resisting him, since he is become delirious, and attempts their ruin?"
Mayhew's lengthy, carefully reasoned sermon was printed and widely read in the colonies. Many Americans accepted its arguments. Among them were John Adams, James Otis, and Josiah Quincey, leaders of the revolution.
At that time, there were many in the clergy who were using the same argument that the clergy is using now, that you must submit to government since it's ordained by God.
History keeps repeating...
It was on this day, January 30, 1750 that Jonathan Mayhew preached his Discourse Concerning Unlimited Submission and Non-resistance to the Higher Powers. In it he took to task those who used some words by Paul in the New Testament to argue that the colonists must obey King George III whether he was right or wrong. Paul had written that we are to obey authorities. They are instituted by God, serve God, and exist to do us good. We should obey not just for fear of punishment but for conscience's sake.
"Here the apostle argues, that those who resist a reasonable and just authority, which is agreeable to the will of God, do really resist the will of God himself; and will, therefore, be punished by him," said Mayhew. "But how does this prove, that those who resist a lawless, unreasonable power, which is contrary to the will of God, do therein resist the will and ordinance of God? Is resisting those who resist God's will, the same thing with resisting God?"
"Common tyrants, and public oppressors, are not intitled to obedience from their subjects, by virtue of any thing here laid down by the inspired apostle." To illustrate his point Mayhew raises a similar case. "Suppose God requires a family of children, to obey their father and not to resist him...Suppose this parent at length runs distracted, and attempts, in his mad fit, to cut all his children's throats: Now, in this case, is not the reason before assigned, why these children should obey their parent while he continued of a sound mind, namely, their common good, a reason equally conclusive for disobeying and resisting him, since he is become delirious, and attempts their ruin?"
Mayhew's lengthy, carefully reasoned sermon was printed and widely read in the colonies. Many Americans accepted its arguments. Among them were John Adams, James Otis, and Josiah Quincey, leaders of the revolution.
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Hamilton-- A federalist who created the first national bank and an opponent of Thomas Jefferson. Which of Hamilton's ideas do you admire?
Ron Paul does not represent John Adams. Ron Paul represents more of Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.
What is interesting is, if I'm not mistaken, I remember Ron Paul saying his favorite founding father was John Adams, in an interview. Which surprised his interviewer (and me as well). I could be mistaken though. I do know he didn't say Thomas Jefferson, which is who I thought he'd say.
I'll look for the interview. I think it was a radio interview.
I'll look for the interview. I think it was a radio interview.
Here is is...
It is from the Mike Church Interview on November 30th
(available on RonPaulAudio.com)
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/RonPaulSiriusRadioPatriotChannelMikeChurchInterview113007.m3u
It is the last question, starts at around 24:40.
http://www.hbo.com/films/johnadams/
sorry if in wrong forum, wasnt sure where to put it.
This link will take you to the trailers.......looks incredible.
I hope someone can youtube it..........we dont get hbo
sorry if in wrong forum, wasnt sure where to put it.
This link will take you to the trailers.......looks incredible.
I hope someone can youtube it..........we dont get hbo
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YEAAAAAH! John Adams has always been a hero of mine... after McCollough wrote his biography I felt kind of like that kid who's favorite band suddenly got popular. Thanks for the heads up!
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