Have we already won? Ron Paul's True EndGame

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Interesting Theory.

Most people miss the fact that Paul has already achieved his end game, or is within a few weeks of its conclusion. The aim for Paul isn't the convention, which is a mainly meaningless but entertaining exercise in American politics. The real goal was to seize control of party apparatuses in states that rely on caucuses. With that in hand, Paul's organization can direct party funds and operations to recruit and support candidates that follow Paul's platform, and in that way exert some influence on the national Republican Party as well, potentially for years to come. Paul hasn't won every battle in that fight, but Minnesota will probably end up being more the rule than the exception.

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I know that Ron Paul is a pretty wise guy and this would make sense for a long term strategy. It would also explain many of the campaign moves that we haven't understood.
 
This is similar to what's out on CNN : cnn.com/2012/05/15/politics/ron-paul-plan/index.html

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As they doggedly work the Republican system from the ground up, electing more of their team as delegates to the Republican National Convention, they have a heavyweight plan that's markedly different from the rumors of convention subterfuge and the guess of simply getting their candidate to the podium.

"We want to change the Republican Party," said Chris Stearns, the Virginia state director for the Ron Paul campaign. "We are making sure our people get in positions of leadership -- in the nation, in their state, in their county and city, all the way down to the grass roots level."
 
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NO. I just can't imagine him stopping at this point. We are winning delegates and they will be present in Florida. Only time will tell. Right now the goal is to keep winning delegates and have a strong showing at the convention.
 
In a word: yes.

Paul has already won. Future elections will build on this victory, and be driven by this victory. We've already been more successful than I, Paul, or anyone else could have realistically expected.
 
smart guy: I definitely think we will be fighting for delegates until the end. A pleasant byproduct of this that we are also taking over much of the party structure at the state and local level.

King: Agreed that if this is the goal, he has surpassed it. I can't believe we have been contesting states like AZ. It also explains quite a bit on other fronts too.
 
If we had time then I would agree, but we are on borrowed time as it is. A long-term strategy to take over is doomed to fail. Ron Paul is smart guy, he has to know this. He knows an attack on Iran will be forthcoming if either Obama or Romney win, he knows what that means as well, WW3. Ron should tell Benton to hit the road and start seriously running as a third party candidate.
 
If we had time then I would agree, but we are on borrowed time as it is. A long-term strategy to take over is doomed to fail. Ron Paul is smart guy, he has to know this. He knows an attack on Iran will be forthcoming if either Obama or Romney win, he knows what that means as well, WW3. Ron should tell Benton to hit the road and start seriously running as a third party candidate.

Is there a direct way to ask Ron?
 
The end goal is Congress. They make the budget. He who has the gold makes the rules.
 
I'm less worried about an attack on Iran than I am a total economic collapse. That said, the economic collapse may be inevitable at this point.
 
Good luck with long term strategies. It does not take in consideration how corruption permeates everything and whomever enters government/political work is twice subject to corruption. Ron Paul is the only one that seems to have resisted corruption for 40 years. Money changes everything. If Ron Paul is not nominated, then we loose. There are no Ron Paul clones. Is now or never. Or there are the OWS....
 
I don't really know what his plans are but this theory just put the pieces into place. It made sense to me. I remember he was telling us in 2008 to become PC's so we can get our guys into the local and state leadership positions. It would of been a lot easier to keep the vote true this time if our guys were helping to count.
 
Ron Paul announced in March 2008, after McCain's win of Texas put him over the top, that winning in the "conventional sense" was no longer available, and that the campaign was winding down. Paul dropped out in June.

It's May. The GOP convention is in August. So we're probably getting what we got in 2008: three months of a zombie campaign.
 
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Ron Paul announced in March 2008, after McCain's win of Texas put him over the top, that winning in the "conventional sense" was no longer available, and that the campaign was winding down. Paul dropped out in June.

It's May. The GOP convention is in August. So we're probably getting what we got in 2008: three months of a zombie campaign.

You have always been so bright and cheery.

Rev9
 
Does anybody truly believe that at this rate, we'll live to see 2016 elections? It's now or game over.
 
Sorry, I don't vote for party. I vote for principle.

And I'm not gonna devote time and effort into a party that doesn't want me, that doesn't look like is going to come anywhere close to running people like RP in the future, and is rightly despised by a large contingent of independents.

I hope that you people are successful in changing the climate in the GOP, but I'm taking my efforts where I think they'll be more rewarding.
 
No, because if this were his strategy - we'd follow through to the very end. Doing this now, only discourages our RNC delegates from raising the funds and taking the time to travel to TAMPA... and if by air, be molested on the way over.
 
Does anybody truly believe that at this rate, we'll live to see 2016 elections? It's now or game over.

I agree with fighting "as if" it's "now or game over," but I do believe we'll live to see the 2016 elections too. Many didn't think we'd live to see 2008 elections, let alone 2012, so at this rate we're probably good for a few more. ;)
 
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taking over a ship of fools.... hope they can educate these fools otherwise it is just a FAIL in the long-run
 
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