Has Ron Paul used cocaine? Have you?

The problem i mainly see with the additude towards drugs is the judgment made by some that to use drugs means your automatically a dangerous criminal not to be trusted in society and then theyll be the person that takes doctor prescribed medication to supress anxiety or some other modern day condition .To me its the kettle calling the coffee black.
The only problem with all drugs is when it controls your life,thats when the criminal actions happen,because people do things they normally wouldnt to feed there addiction .Drugs being illegal is what also causes the criminal action in alot of situations because it forces a addict to seek out extreme measures to aquire it.
Ive tried lsd cocaine pot ect. mainly out of curiousity but also just for recreational fun.Now granted most of my experiences with it was in my early 20s and i really dont care if i ever use it again or not.
The only reason id recomend a person to not try it is if they lack self control,because like anything to much of a good thing can become bad only because your not in control.

Robert Wagner

Yes but people usually overestimate their ability to have self control. Drugs are addictive plain and simple. I work in healthcare and see people become hooked on painkillers everyday. People are addicted to pornography. People are addicted to a lot of things in society and most don't even realize it. Some people have more of an addictive personality than others. I doubt there are many people that who use coke or smoke pot etc. wouldn't do it much more frequently if it wasn't shunned by society or illegal. I know TONS of people that drink too much. Are they alcoholics? No. Does it impact their day to day lives. Not really. But these are also the same people that can rarely do anything social without "drinking" being somehow involved.

Hell Americans are addicted to junkfood.
 
No offense but you're probably the exact type of person that has no problems doing all those drugs but the minute you hear "steroids" you go on some rant about how they'll shrink your balls and turn someone into a raving lunatic. Or maybe you're not. I'd rather go to the gym, have sex, climb a mountain, paddle some whitewater than do drugs. I've never really understood the need for using drugs. But I've also never used them so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. Hell I hate being drunk. I have no idea why anyone would smoke. But I don't think any of it should be illegal.

I don't care one bit if someone uses steroids. I had to take them in Junior High for a bad poison ivy infection and got put into suspension for fighting. Then I got out-of-school suspension for fighting in in-school suspension so I try and avoid them nowadays.

I also have no problem with people who don't use drugs. Sex, mountain climbing and whitewater are fun too!
 
there's a time and a place for everything - even experimenting with drugs. it's called college.
 
I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says. But he speaks to my common sense, gut, intuitistic side or whatever you want to call it. On top of that I think he's a good man. With good morals. Maybe Im wrong, I don't know. I'm not some evangelical/puritanistic drugs are bad goodie goodie. I did my fare share of drinking in high school and college. I smoked weed a few times and that was it. But although exposed to it a few times I have NEVER tried nor had the desire to try cocaine, meth, heroin, or something seemingly harmless as mushshrooms. I mean I had friends pull out a bag of shrooms and ask me if I wanted some. I don't know. I just honestly never had the desire. It also just felt wrong and I wasn't raised in an overly religious environment either. I hate drinking now. In fact I hate everything about our alcoholic culture. But that's besides the point. My point is it didn't sit well with me when Obama had admitted to using cocaine when he was younger. I know how the real world works. People we would never suspect have or probably are using drugs. Obvioulsy America has a huge drug problem. But I think the drugs someone uses or the fact that someone even uses drugs says a lot about their character. I really do. Maybe I'm prude or whatever. But cocaine is not pot. And even though Obama might have only used it a few times that fact that he made that conscious decision in my opinion says a lot about someone. Maybe it's no big deal. Afterall I'm not an Obama supporter. And not because of his past drug use. Mostly because of his obviously ideology. But do you feel using cocaine is a moot, nonissue? I mean is having an affair meaningless nowadays? We all know this stuff probably went on 50 years ago as well. Why do we try to teach our kids that adultery and drugs are bad yet condone it among ourselves as adults. Or make excuses for it?

drugs aren't the problem with the US.

opinionated, judgmental asshats like you are.
 
I think escaping reality to avoid pain and exploring reality to understand the pain are two different things.

Just to put that out there.
 
I don't care one bit if someone uses steroids. I had to take them in Junior High for a bad poison ivy infection and got put into suspension for fighting. Then I got out-of-school suspension for fighting in in-school suspension so I try and avoid them nowadays.

I also have no problem with people who don't use drugs. Sex, mountain climbing and whitewater are fun too!

I don't think prescription steroids and anabolic steroids are in the same class. The major mass-building steroid used by bodybuilders is testosterone, which the male body already produces. Problem is, it causes negative feedback when you stop taking it causing the body to produce less testosterone than before. That causes depression, ball shrinkage, loss of muscle, acceleration of genetic hair loss and a whole host of terrible side effects. In order to use anabolics successfully you must have effective post-cycle therapy to normalize hormone levels.

Back in Arnold Schwarzenegger's heyday when bodybuilding wasn't a freak-show and when anabolic steroids were legal, they had doctors monitoring proper use. Now bodybuilders are forced to deal in the black market where hundreds of mass-building, endocrine system-altering designer drugs are available. Just another reason why outlawing them causes these powerful drugs to be used in ignorant and irresponsible ways.

To the point of the thread, I'm pretty sure Ron Paul hasn't used cocaine. He's openly admitted he's never smoked marijuana so I doubt he's experimented with harder drugs.
 
I think escaping reality to avoid pain and exploring reality to understand the pain are two different things.

Just to put that out there.

On that note.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2008/07/a-medical-use-f.html

The LSD era is long past, but the use of psychedelic drugs to boost personal enlightenment hasn't lost its appeal to some researchers. Case in point is the study published online this week in the Journal of Psychopharmacology.

Johns Hopkins researchers reported in 2006 that the hallucinogen psilocybin, otherwise known as the sacred mushroom, caused a profound mystical experience in the majority of a group of 36 volunteers who took the drug in a laboratory setting. Two years later, the researchers re-interviewed the volunteers and found that the spiritual effects of the experience appear to last for more than a year. "Most of the volunteers looked back on their experience 14 months later and rated it as the most, or one of the five most, personally meaningful and spiritually significant of their lives," says lead research Roland Griffiths.

Whoa! That's quite an endorsement for magic mushrooms. The researchers, however, say the drug could be used under careful conditions to help the outlooks of people with anxiety or depression due to serious illness. Psilocybin may also even help as a treatment for drug dependence. A new study is underway that will examine the effects of a psilocybin trip on people with cancer.

"This is a truly remarkable finding," Griffiths says. "Rarely in psychological research do we see such persistently positive reports from a single event in the laboratory."

Don't try this at home, however. The Journal of Psychopharmacology published an accompanying report on how psilocybin can be used safely and ethically in research. The drug is only given to people with no history of psychosis or serious mental disorders, and psychological support is provided during and after the experience.

And, in case you don't think this is serious stuff, the research was funded in part by the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
 
I DON'T agree with the assumption that people use drugs to "escape", some people with good lives do it because it seems fun, or they are pressured, or sometimes just to do it.

I have never done any hard drugs, but my dad did, as has my hubby. I have taken *the* most potent pain reliever for people with morphine tolerance and been addicted, though. I now, just like my dad, don't take medication unless absolutely necessary, not wanting to test myself too much.

Dad was addicted to heroin for years until I was conceived. He has had teeth pulled with no drugs since then, scared that he would feel an "itch".

I still think that Ron is right, though, keep the government out of it, and it'll become less of a big deal. Sure, there will still be a few issues, but for the most part, we won't have the violent lifestyles that go along with it.
 
I don't care one bit if someone uses steroids. I had to take them in Junior High for a bad poison ivy infection and got put into suspension for fighting. Then I got out-of-school suspension for fighting in in-school suspension so I try and avoid them nowadays.

I also have no problem with people who don't use drugs. Sex, mountain climbing and whitewater are fun too!


You were put on corticosteroids not anabolic steroids. The former are catabolic steroids aka antinflammatories. The latter are muscle building.
 
People do drugs because their lives suck and they want to escape reality. I don't see much of a difference between someone who drinks alcohol or smokes pot or snorts cocaine. I know one kid that has cocaine issues and he was less hypocritical about drug use than all the problem drinkers and potheads I know. I've never done any drugs or even had a sip of alcohol and I don't plan on it.

That being said, the cokehead is a libertarian and a Ron Paul supporter while the problem drinker supports McCain, and the pothead supports Obama.

As far as I see it, drugs are drugs and the only differences I see between someone who caffeinated coffee and snorts cocaine is that one is more potent in less quantities.

Wow....so if drugs are drugs and someone drinks a cup of coffee in the morning, their lives suck and they're trying to escape reality?
 
drugs aren't the problem with the US.

opinionated, judgmental asshats like you are.

Since you want to call me names you dipshit............here ya go......listen ASSHAT you nor anyone else in this thread can sit there with all your individualistic ideology and argue drugs are good for society and good for people to be involved with. I guess we should all just sit around getting high all day and doing coke which is what a majority of people, MAYBE NOT YOU, would probably do. The thing with all you free thinking so called libertarians is you think everyone else in the world is as intelligent, and displays as much insight and self restraint. If some geek wants to sit around in his house all day and "experiment" with drugs or go to a college party and get high to "loosen" up I have no problem with it. I never said drugs should be illegal. Moreover, drugs are NOT healthy for you. Cocaine is a major vasoconstrictor. People who've used coke, even casually throughout their lifetime wreak havoc on their bodies especially their cardiovascular system. That is the main reason I don't use drugs or even drink that much anymore. I'm a fitness and health nut. And smoking anything is not good for you whether it's grass or pot. I take great pride in my body and it's ability to function and provide me with good health. I'm a nurse and Ive seen plenty of people abuse their bodies and if young know it all college kids and teenagers saw what I saw they'd take a lot more interest in their health. It's safe to say that most of you in this thread that have a history of drug use probably aren't in "the best shape of your life" nor ever have been, which is my goal and will continue to be my goal and will be something I teach my kids. I will not teach my kids that drugs are "ok to experiment with. I will tell them the truth show them all sides of the issue. Judgemental I maybe. Afterall judge and be prepared to be judged.
 
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Drugs, like everything else, go in and out of fashion.

Barack Obama was born in 1961. He was 20 in 1981. During the 80s, coke was one of the most common recreation drugs. It was used by the upper classes. It was used on Wall St. It was not used in poor areas. It was more common than marijuana in Universities; the pot craze of the 60s and 70s was over. No one (of a pre-employed age) drank coffee. That fad hadn't started yet. Red Bull hadn't been invented. Ecstasy hadn't been invented. Crack cocaine hadn't been invented. Meth (a much more addictive drug than coke) was used by poorer people.

It makes sense that someone of Barack's age and surroundings at the time would have tried cocaine.

It was in soft drinks at one time. Sigmund Freud used it and thought it was a wonder drug until he realized there was a severe depressive rebound, and it was somewhat addictive.

All drugs should be avoided. And the war on drugs is a failed waste of money.
 
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