Has Ron Paul used cocaine? Have you?

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I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says. But he speaks to my common sense, gut, intuitistic side or whatever you want to call it. On top of that I think he's a good man. With good morals. Maybe Im wrong, I don't know. I'm not some evangelical/puritanistic drugs are bad goodie goodie. I did my fare share of drinking in high school and college. I smoked weed a few times and that was it. But although exposed to it a few times I have NEVER tried nor had the desire to try cocaine, meth, heroin, or something seemingly harmless as mushshrooms. I mean I had friends pull out a bag of shrooms and ask me if I wanted some. I don't know. I just honestly never had the desire. It also just felt wrong and I wasn't raised in an overly religious environment either. I hate drinking now. In fact I hate everything about our alcoholic culture. But that's besides the point. My point is it didn't sit well with me when Obama had admitted to using cocaine when he was younger. I know how the real world works. People we would never suspect have or probably are using drugs. Obvioulsy America has a huge drug problem. But I think the drugs someone uses or the fact that someone even uses drugs says a lot about their character. I really do. Maybe I'm prude or whatever. But cocaine is not pot. And even though Obama might have only used it a few times that fact that he made that conscious decision in my opinion says a lot about someone. Maybe it's no big deal. Afterall I'm not an Obama supporter. And not because of his past drug use. Mostly because of his obviously ideology. But do you feel using cocaine is a moot, nonissue? I mean is having an affair meaningless nowadays? We all know this stuff probably went on 50 years ago as well. Why do we try to teach our kids that adultery and drugs are bad yet condone it among ourselves as adults. Or make excuses for it?
 
No, I've never used drugs. Believe it or not, I've also still yet to take my first drink. Anyway, Ron Paul's point is that the government can't make anyone be a good person, stop taking drugs, or doing any other immoral thing. The harder the Federal Government cracks down on such behaviors, the more violent the people addicted to them become.

I also don't think Ron Paul has done any drugs. Being a physician, he would know the harmful effects of them, but he does realize that some, like hemp, have medical purposes that can help a person in a way that harmful chemicles can't. On that same note, most prescription drugs are just as harmful as anything you can snort, smoke, or inject.

Yes, I'm not fond of drugs, either, but I'm pretty sure Ron Paul knows what he's talking about. I actually haven't done much research on the subject, actually.
 
People do drugs because their lives suck and they want to escape reality. I don't see much of a difference between someone who drinks alcohol or smokes pot or snorts cocaine. I know one kid that has cocaine issues and he was less hypocritical about drug use than all the problem drinkers and potheads I know. I've never done any drugs or even had a sip of alcohol and I don't plan on it.

That being said, the cokehead is a libertarian and a Ron Paul supporter while the problem drinker supports McCain, and the pothead supports Obama.

As far as I see it, drugs are drugs and the only differences I see between someone who drinks caffeinated coffee and snorts cocaine is that one is more potent in less quantities.
 
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I highly doubt Ron Paul ever tried cocaine, as he's always been a healthy, athletic and religious oriented person. I suppose it's possible, and i imagine, he's been in situation where he's encountered cocaine use in his presence, but i doubt he ever tried it.

I personally have tried it twice, and will never do it again. I have no problems with anyone who admits to doing any drugs whatsoever, as we are all free to use our bodies however we want. However, I will try to the best of my ability to stop any of my friends from doing Coke, but there's only so much that I can do, when it is their will.

I have absolutely no problem with Obama admitting that he's tried Cocaine. It seems like an honest gesture to me, and we've all made mistakes.


His tyrannical policies on the other hand, i have a problem with :cool:
 
can you imagine ron paul keeled over and drooling drowsily on his dresser with white dust all over his face? eyes rolled back and a goofy smile from ecstasy, mumbling random bits and fragments of the bill of rights and all that stuff?
 
I've never done drugs, and I have maybe one alcoholic drink per year (if that), because I don't really like the taste. I don't give a hoof what anyone else does, though.
 
I've used it. It's like anything else; some people are able to go about it in a moderate and responsible manner, others aren't.

My only "issue" with Obama's admission is the hypocrisy involved. If he had been caught using he would never have become a state senator never mind U.S. President. Yet he supports imposing draconian punishments on those who do exactly what he did.
 
I've never done drugs, and I have maybe one alcoholic drink per year (if that), because I don't really like the taste. I don't give a hoof what anyone else does, though.

Have you tried any of those drug-free methods for hallucinating that I posted several days ago, Snapple? ;) They haven't been tested on llamas before. :eek::)
 
I've used it. It's like anything else; some people are able to go about it in a moderate and responsible manner, others aren't.

My only "issue" with Obama's admission is the hypocrisy involved. If he had been caught using he would never have become a state senator never mind U.S. President. Yet he supports imposing draconian punishments on those who do exactly what he did.

I doubt Ron has "used" cocaine. But he may well have prescribed it in the past. It used to be a common anesthetic.
I used some occasionally in my youth, but it was rare and very expensive. It was the "Rich Mans" drug.
The WOD has made it cheaper, and more readily available.
Go figure.
 
I've got drunk a few times but it's far from my favorite thing to do. I've never done any serious drugs. I am however very sick of the mentality that you must be a drug user if you oppose the WOD. I couldn't care less what anyone else does but I do agree it's kind of hypocritical to support WOD if you have at any time in your past used drugs.
 
People do drugs because their lives suck and they want to escape reality.

Big generalization.


I started using drugs in high school because I was curious. My life didn't/doesn't suck and I was/am still grounded.

Using drugs in a social situation or at the cottage once in a while is what some people like.

Although I have never done cocaine or any hard drugs, and never any over the counter drugs.
 
What I find hypocritical is that people admit to using coke, pot, drinking excessively etc. But the minute someone admits to using anabolic steroids they are lambasted and shunned. LMAO! I mean hell.....if Obama would have admitted to using anabolic steroids he probably would never have been elected. I have no problems with any grown adult using steroids to better their bodies. This crusade against steroids is as much of a joke as the war on drugs lately. If you guys haven't seen it I'd pick up the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster. Hell I think in general American men especially politicians could use a little more testosterone. :)
 
Big generalization.

Especially from someone who admits he's never done any drugs.

I've used most drugs in my past. I very seldom use them anymore but on occasion I will. Like the previous poster, I tried them because I wanted to see what it was like. I was always told to say "No" to drugs and that I should be afraid to try them because I might become addicted. Never being one to respect the imaginary authority of teachers, cops and principals, I did them anyway.

If I'm going to the dentist for some serious work I'll take a Valium or a Xanax to calm my nerves. I've done enough variety that I know what they're good for and what they are not good for. I also know that I can't take most pain-killers due to allergic reactions. Cocaine for me is a waste of money. I don't like getting on my own nerves, much less everyone else's.

Ecstacy was fun but it got old. Meth.... Yuck! Acid... Yuck! Shrooms, rock on! Pot, not for me anymore. I had my share though. Alcohol, on rare occasion. Opium... ahhhhh...... Opium. Never did heroin or PCP. Didn't look like much fun to me. Am I leaving anything out? Oh yeah, cigarrettes... I smoke somewhere between 5-8 a day on weekdays and less on weekends.

I've known/still know people that use drugs to help them cope with reality. Those types of people are the ones who usually end up addicted. To make a broad generalization that everyone who uses drugs has some sort of mental issue is silly. Especially in this movement where we recognize that individuals are unique and difficult to classify.
 
I've used it. It's like anything else; some people are able to go about it in a moderate and responsible manner, others aren't.

My only "issue" with Obama's admission is the hypocrisy involved. If he had been caught using he would never have become a state senator never mind U.S. President. Yet he supports imposing draconian punishments on those who do exactly what he did.

That's how I feel. I'm sure most of our leaders have used illegal substances yet they do nothing about all the people sitting in prison or paying huge fines for doing the same thing. One sits in prison, one becomes President. Wtf is that about? :mad:
 
Especially from someone who admits he's never done any drugs.

I've used most drugs in my past. I very seldom use them anymore but on occasion I will. Like the previous poster, I tried them because I wanted to see what it was like. I was always told to say "No" to drugs and that I should be afraid to try them because I might become addicted. Never being one to respect the imaginary authority of teachers, cops and principals, I did them anyway.

If I'm going to the dentist for some serious work I'll take a Valium or a Xanax to calm my nerves. I've done enough variety that I know what they're good for and what they are not good for. I also know that I can't take most pain-killers due to allergic reactions. Cocaine for me is a waste of money. I don't like getting on my own nerves, much less everyone else's.

Ecstacy was fun but it got old. Meth.... Yuck! Acid... Yuck! Shrooms, rock on! Pot, not for me anymore. I had my share though. Alcohol, on rare occasion. Opium... ahhhhh...... Opium. Never did heroin or PCP. Didn't look like much fun to me. Am I leaving anything out? Oh yeah, cigarrettes... I smoke somewhere between 5-8 a day on weekdays and less on weekends.

I've known/still know people that use drugs to help them cope with reality. Those types of people are the ones who usually end up addicted. To make a broad generalization that everyone who uses drugs has some sort of mental issue is silly. Especially in this movement where we recognize that individuals are unique and difficult to classify.

No offense but you're probably the exact type of person that has no problems doing all those drugs but the minute you hear "steroids" you go on some rant about how they'll shrink your balls and turn someone into a raving lunatic. Or maybe you're not. I'd rather go to the gym, have sex, climb a mountain, paddle some whitewater than do drugs. I've never really understood the need for using drugs. But I've also never used them so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. Hell I hate being drunk. I have no idea why anyone would smoke. But I don't think any of it should be illegal.
 
The problem i mainly see with the additude towards drugs is the judgment made by some that to use drugs means your automatically a dangerous criminal not to be trusted in society and then theyll be the person that takes doctor prescribed medication to supress anxiety or some other modern day condition .To me its the kettle calling the coffee black.
The only problem with all drugs is when it controls your life,thats when the criminal actions happen,because people do things they normally wouldnt to feed there addiction .Drugs being illegal is what also causes the criminal action in alot of situations because it forces a addict to seek out extreme measures to aquire it.
Ive tried lsd cocaine pot ect. mainly out of curiousity but also just for recreational fun.Now granted most of my experiences with it was in my early 20s and i really dont care if i ever use it again or not.
The only reason id recomend a person to not try it is if they lack self control,because like anything to much of a good thing can become bad only because your not in control.

Robert Wagner
 
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