Hannity's America

[dawnbt]

They are both two pieces of shit, on the same turd sandwish

LMAO! Love it!

 

[georgiaboy]

.. to me a protest vote will not accomplish anything with the numbers we have at (this) point...

programming. ask yourself why you have this opinion. dig deep.

the biggest (wall) to doing that right now is people acting like idiots. Their actions speak volumes... They do things RP would never do...

programming. ask yourself why you have this opinion. dig deep.

 

[D.H.]

Fox is the news equivalent of WWF wrestling.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

fox is the news equivalent of wwf wrestling.

+1 lol

 

[georgiaboy]

It is amazing to me how you say we are "programmed". The more I am here the more it sees like a cult. This is NOT an outsider calling what he doesn't understand loonies and nuts... This is me ... an insider..

Everyone here spouts the RP mantra... I think for myself.

I have explainedMANY times that I am trying my best t educate outsiders.. to me a protest vote will not accomplish anything with the numbers we have at tis point... we MUST grow the movement ifwe want to make a difference and the biggest wal to doing that right now is people acting like idiots. Their actions speak volumes... They do things RP would never do...

You are programmed. To say that a protest vote will not accomplish anything based on numbers?? So Rosa Parks shouldn't have refused to give her seat up on the bus? Since when do you only protest when you 'have enough numbers?' You protest when you feel you must protest. Unlike you, Mr. GOP Epitome of COLLECTIVISM, we who are independent thinkers think individually about our actions without looking for which way the political winds are blowing. You're sounding like a political junkie armchair quarterbacking a typical election discussion with a phrase like "a protest vote will not accomplish anything with the numbers we have at this point". By the way, if you really feel this way, why do you keep posting on here trying to convince people to vote for McCain?? Obviously, our meaningless protest vote must mean something to you for you to try and convince us to do otherwise.

To say that idiotic behavior is the biggest wall to growing this movement is very true -- but it's not the RP supporters behavior, it's the MSM, so-called "Conservative" talk show pundits, GOP establishment that is exhibiting the idiotic behavior. RP supporters are reacting to THEM. THEY started it.

Think about it. Many of us RP Supporters actually voted for all those hundreds of Republicans that have held office over the last decade plus. We voted for them because we wanted small, constitutional federal government, reduced spending, states rights, .... They didn't do it. Then, they rubbed it in our face by ridiculing a man who has tried, voted, written, spoken for his entire political career in favor of just these things. They did everything they could to keep us out of this election season, including namecalling, marginalizing from the get go, and rule breaking. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there was some blowback on them. RP supporters get called out for throwing snowballs, while Hannity shows his true colors by getting behind MCCAIN!?!?!?!? Oh, the irony. Idiotic behavior, indeed.

And in case you think I didn't get your meaning, I understand you were referencing the RP'ers behavior. To address that directly, if childish behavior were the only thing we had to clean up for this movement to go mainstream, believe me, this would've happened years ago. You are so programmed. You are basing failure of this movement on a few isolated events that talk shows and major media decided to blow up and use to support their rantings over and over again about just how "crazy" those RP'ers are. Wake up. If you really are one of us, you'd know that we are decent, respectful, honest, play-by-the-rules, love-this-country kind of people, and you'd know that despite our good qualities and passion for our cause, we have met with nothing but opposition of the ugliest kind, and are still moving forward. That the RP movement fails due to it's craziness is the most insidious form of programming there is. Accomplish this one thing, and no one listens to you anymore.

The RP movement fails because folks like you fall prey to these simple tactics, and then you get right back in line and yep, YOU VOTE STATUS QUO.

If this hurts, then good. Truth may hurt, but at least it lets you know you care, and you can begin to do something about it.

 

[EndTheFed]

programming. ask yourself why you have this opinion. dig deep.


programming. ask yourself why you have this opinion. dig deep.

programming. ask yourself why you have this opinion. dig deep.

 

[EndTheFed]

Fox is the news equivalent of WWF wrestling.

Hmmmm no substance or way to verify this...

 

[Mini-Me]

<Facepalm>...how about the "strategic Obama voters" and "strategic McCain voters" in the same state seek each other out and just make a vote pact with each other? That way, you'll both vote third party and show increased dissent (which will help Joe Average think next time, "Hey, maybe I should, too?")...and that way, you won't be just canceling each others' votes out, giving vocal support to the establishment, and saying, "I'm not pissed off enough yet, and I will still tolerate this and play your game."

 

[georgiaboy]

<Facepalm>...how about the "strategic Obama voters" and "strategic McCain voters" in the same state seek each other out and just make a vote pact with each other? That way, you'll both vote third party and show increased dissent (which will help Joe Average think next time, "Hey, maybe I should, too?")...and that way, you won't be just canceling each others' votes out, giving vocal support to the establishment, and saying, "I'm not pissed off enough yet, and I will still tolerate this and play your game."

votepact.org/

love it.

I shared this with these two along with Phil... something on another thread - unenthusiastic response.

 

[georgiaboy]

<Facepalm>...how about the "strategic Obama voters" and "strategic McCain voters" in the same state seek each other out and just make a vote pact with each other? That way, you'll both vote third party and show increased dissent (which will help Joe Average think next time, "Hey, maybe I should, too?")...and that way, you won't be just canceling each others' votes out, giving vocal support to the establishment, and saying, "I'm not pissed off enough yet, and I will still tolerate this and play your game."

of course you know, to paraphrase one of the few enlightened, independent thinking ones on these boards, "there aren't enough numbers out there for this kind of protest vote to mean anything yet"

 

[EndTheFed]

You are programmed. To say that a protest vote will not accomplish anything based on numbers?? So Rosa Parks shouldn't have refused to give her seat up on the bus? Since when do you only protest when you 'have enough numbers?' You protest when you feel you must protest. Unlike you, Mr. GOP Epitome of COLLECTIVISM, we who are independent thinkers think individually about our actions without looking for which way the political winds are blowing.

What a joke... Look in the mirror.

So should we have not fought the civil war? if not Rosa Parks would not have even been able to get on the bus.

You're sounding like a political junkie armchair quarterbacking a typical election discussion with a phrase like "a protest vote will not accomplish anything with the numbers we have at this point". By the way, if you really feel this way, why do you keep posting on here trying to convince people to vote for McCain??

The MAIN reason I keep postng hewre is to have a discussion with people about wisdon.. knowledge without wisdom is futile. People here need to grow up and mature if they want the RP movement to grow.

Obviously, our meaningless protest vote must mean something to you for you to try and convince us to do otherwise.

You are correct... it could mean MUCH harm t the RP movement and a major move in the direction of Socialism, a horrible supreme court and harm that could extend well into the future.

To say that idiotic behavior is the biggest wall to growing this movement is very true -- but it's not the RP supporters behavior, it's the MSM, so-called "Conservative" talk show pundits, GOP establishment that is exhibiting the idiotic behavior. RP supporters are reacting to THEM. THEY started it.

What a joke... certainly you dont believe this. Did you really support the snowball incident? that was really helpful wasnt it?

BTW exactly who started it?

Think about it. Many of us RP Supporters actually voted for all those hundreds of Republicans that have held office over the last decade plus. We voted for them because we wanted small, constitutional federal government, reduced spending, states rights, .... They didn't do it. Then, they rubbed it in our face by ridiculing a man who has tried, voted, written, spoken for his entire political career in favor of just these things. They did everything they could to keep us out of this election season, including namecalling, marginalizing from the get go, and rule breaking. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there was some blowback on them. RP supporters get called out for throwing snowballs, while Hannity shows his true colors by getting behind MCCAIN!?!?!?!? Oh, the irony. Idiotic behavior, indeed.

Yes itwas idiotic behavior... it HURT RP purposes.

And in case you think I didn't get your meaning, I understand you were referencing the RP'ers behavior. To address that directly, if childish behavior were the only thing we had to clean up for this movement to go mainstream, believe me, this would've happened years ago. You are so programmed. You are basing failure of this movement on a few isolated events that talk shows and major media decided to blow up and use to support their rantings over and over again about just how "crazy" those RP'ers are. Wake up. If you really are one of us, you'd know that we are decent, respectful, honest, play-by-the-rules, love-this-country kind of people, and you'd know that despite our good qualities and passion for our cause, we have met with nothing but opposition of the ugliest kind,and are still moving forward.

Yea kinda like I have been atackedhere for voicing a differentconclusion that I have come to while still supporting RP.

That the RP movement fails due to it's craziness is the most insidious form of programming there is. Accomplish this one thing, and no one listens to you anymore.

Sorry... it is from my own opinion... I think you are terribly blinded if you cant see that the programming statements dont hold water. I am not in lockstep here.. you are.

The RP movement fails because folks like you fall prey to these simple tactics, and then you get right back in line and yep, YOU VOTE STATUS QUO.

If this hurts, then good. Truth may hurt, but at least it lets you know you care, and you can begin to do something about it.

I am not hurt....

 

[georgiaboy]

End,

At what point will 'the numbers' get high enough for you to finally go along with the crowd and register your vote for liberty?

Do you find it interesting that, though you are of such independent thought, that you've come to the same conclusion as tens of millions of 'sheep'?

 

[georgiaboy]

End,
Do you really place snowballs in the same category as media marginalization, convention rule-breaking, strongarming? Are you even seeing what's happening with duly elected GOP committeemen out in CA, re: spurious lawsuits?

 

[EndTheFed]

End,

At what point will 'the numbers' get high enough for you to finally go along with the crowd and register your vote for liberty?

Do you find it interesting that, though you are of such independent thought, that you've come to the same conclusion as tens of millions of 'sheep'?

An you come to the same conclusion of most here.. Hmmm what des that mean?

 

[georgiaboy]

So End,
Your positions are:
1. RP movement needs to grow up to be effective.
2. RP movement needs to vote GOP candidate, regardless of who it is.

Can I translate this as "Shut up and get back in line"?

 

[georgiaboy]

End,
Were you glad that RP supporters who were delegates to the national convention either abstained or voted McCain, to allow unanimous voting for him at the convention?

Were you in favor of the GOP stifling this dissent, and other forms of dissatisfaction like waving Ron Paul signs or chanting Ron Paul?

 

[georgiaboy]

End,

How about our Founding Fathers? Were they collectivists? Sheeple? Yeah, they all thought the same - those blind, programmed, sheep.

Do you think our Founding Fathers would have us 'grow up', and vote for either the GOP or DEM?

Have you ever heard about the Boston Tea Party? Did it further the freedom movement, or hinder it?

 

[EndTheFed]

So End,
Your positions are:
1. RP movement needs to grow up to be effective.
2. RP movement needs to vote GOP candidate, regardless of who it is.

Can I translate this as "Shut up and get back in line"?

1. Yes Grow up and use a little wisdom in passing along it's knowledge and to help the movement grow.

2. Absolutely not. Where did you get thatfrom ANYTHIG I have said on thei forum anywhere.

In our (the united states) current situation, Mccain or Obama WILL be the nxt president. Mccain will be better for the US and the RP movement IMO. I don't agree with the cheerleaders for the destructiion of america so wecan then rebuild it.

 

[EndTheFed]

End,
Were you glad that RP supporters who were delegates to the national convention either abstained or voted McCain, to allow unanimous voting for him at the convention?

No of course not... I wish there were enough to get RP as the nominee.

Were you in favor of the GOP stifling this dissent, and other forms of dissatisfaction like waving Ron Paul signs or chanting Ron Paul?

No.

 

[EndTheFed]

End,

How about our Founding Fathers? Were they collectivists? Sheeple? Yeah, they all thought the same - those blind, programmed, sheep.

Bullshit!! you obiously don't know US history. They had a difficult time coming together and there was MUCH contention. After MUCH debate (almost to the point of blows) they came to an agreement. Everyone did not all agree everithing everyone thought. The agreement was hammered out.

Do you think our Founding Fathers would have us 'grow up', and vote for either the GOP or DEM?

You are mixing topics. The growing up has to do with RP supporters stupid acts.. Not their choice in voting.

Have you ever heard about the Boston Tea Party? Did it further the freedom movement, or hinder it?

I do not think we are at the point of revolt. That may come but not yet and if it does I do not look forward to it and no one in their right mind would.