too bad ron doesn't "rip into" these people more and tear them up by the ideas they support... that's the one thing I think Ron is missing (more of a "killer" instinct).
The few seconds I caught of the show last night he was making the case that we could have won Vietnam if the politicans were behind it. Possibly, but he is nuts to think sacraficing ones life in Vietnam is worthwhile under any changed circumstances.
1. The air force was repeatedly refused permission to bomb those targets that the Joint Chiefs of Staff deemed most strategic.
2. US troops were given a general order not to fire at the vietcong until fired upon.
3. Vehicles more than 200 yards off the Ho Chi Minh trail could not be bombed. (enemy supply trucks forewarned of approaching us planes had only to temporarily divert off the trail to escape destruction)
4. A north vietnamese MIG could not be struck if spotted on a runway, only if airborne and showing hostile intent.
5. Surface to air missile sites could not be bombed while under construction; only after they became operational.
6. Enemy forces could not be pursued if they crossed the border into Laos or Cambodia.
7. We boosted trade with the soviet bloc, which furnished 80% of the the enemies supplies -- we in effect were supplying our enemy.
From: "The Shadows of Power", pg. 122
I wasn't around at the time, but from what I have read, YES we could have "won" in vietnam; but we were not allowed to.
For example:
I wasn't around at the time, but from what I have read, YES we could have "won" in vietnam; but we were not allowed to.
For example:
What you have read is irrelevant to the point. The Viet Nam War was started by falsified means, the Gulf Of Tonkin incident was staged, we have the tapes, it's documented beyond doubt. We brutalized a sovereign nation and later the entire region for geopolitical gain. If "winning" would have constituted the slaughter of each and every Viet Namese or Cambodian.....or Laotian so be it. Would that make you proud? Would it make us justified?
If "winning" would have constituted the slaughter of each and every Viet Namese or Cambodian.....or Laotian so be it. Would that make you proud? Would it make us justified?
Yeah, that's me. A big warmonger, kill em all let god sort them out kinda guy.
Whether the war was justified or how it got started is fairly irrelevent to my point. If we are going to go to war, then we should fight it, win it, then go home. Their is plenty of historical evidence that the people that pushed the war and controlled the war didn't want us to "win". As cited by my short list above. If you have a problem with what I actually said then please feel free dispute it.
Think about how many hundreds of thousands of vietnamese and the thousands of americans would be alive, if they pursued a sound strategy to win the war?
Hannity has always been a clueless douchebag. He represents everything wrong with the republican party. Everytime he wonders how the party blew it he should take a long look in the mirror.
I wish Chuck would have responded, "He's not nuts, you're nuts for not listening to him" or something much better than the response he had.
Nice wig/coloring Norris. What's wrong with getting old gracefully. They guy looks like a fool with that hair. Chuck Norris is nuts.
It will be snowing again soon...