HAHAHA...Stupid Fair Tax

[tarabyte]

I still think that RP's 0% flat tax is far superior. It relies on CUTTING SPENDING, which is what we really need.

This is the only fair tax I support.

 

[billyjoeallen]

I have the book. The fair tax is an improvement over the existing income tax, but it is not nearly as good as eliminating the tax altogether and replacing in with reduced spending as Dr. Paul is proposing.

 

[Patriot Henry]

Don't believe all the misinformation people are toughing against the FairTax. If it were to be implimented as the bill is written it would be an awesome improvement.

Critics always say the rate is 30% instead of 23% to scare people. Both figures are technically correct and the only difference is that the 23% figure is if you calculate the tax "inclusively" (after the purchase) and the 30% figure is if you calculate the tax "exclusively" (before the purchase). If people are going to cry foul about using the "inclusive" method of calsulation then you have to be fair and use that same logic on out current income tax, because it is currently calculated "inclusively". That is specifically why the are using the same method for the FairTax.

Listen, we can't whine and complain around here about the way the media misleads the public on Ron's positions and then do the same thing on other candidates postions. Especially on a pretty good proposal like the FairTax. http://www.fairtax.org/site/News2?news_iv_ctrl=1541&page=NewsArticle&id=8248

Of course someone like Huckabee should not be trusted to guide the FairTax into law. But those critizisms should rest on the flaws of Huckabee not the flaws of the FairTax.

The Fair Tax is anything but fair. It is a regressive tax, benefiting the wealthy and screwing the middle class just like the income tax does. It will make the majority of Americans dependent on a government check every month.

Did you actually read the bill? It's a terrible, horrible idea. Fair Tax proponents argue against the income tax because the one line Constitutional Amendment has ballooned to 64,000 pages... so we should replace that one line with more than a hundred pages to start a new monster beaucracy?

Dr. Paul has it right - we don't need to replace the income tax, we need to get rid of it. All of these unconstitutional programs are funded by the income tax, why do you all want to keep spending all of this money to keep funding illegal government programs?

The Fair Tax is like getting shot in the gut - it doesn't sound too bad when you are on fire, but it won't put out the fire and it won't solve your problems.

 

[Ncturnal]

Fair tax is missing the whole point. The problem is government overspending. Fair tax will do nothing to address that, but Ron's NO TAX would.

 

[Patriot Henry]

I repeat, the current income tax is calculated in the same way as the FairTaxe's inclusive rate.

And you think that is a convincing argument in favor of the "Fair Tax"???

 

[Patriot Henry]

everyone gets the prebate. its the amount of tax that you would spend up the the poverty level. So if the poverty level is 20K (pulling numbers out my ass) then everyone would get a check for the tax on 20K

"Prebate" is just a fancy word for "welfare".

 

[Patriot Henry]

This comment is particularly disappointing to find on a Ron Paul message board because if you should immediately understand that corporations don't set the prices. The market does. It's not that they wouldn't want to pad their prices, its that the laws of economics makes it impossible. Have we learned nothing about economics from Ron Paul?

Um, no often times corporations do set the prices, i.e. record companies fixing the price of CD's.

And if you are in favor of the Fair Tax, I don't think you've learned anything about economics or the nature of government from Paul or anyone else.

 

[Paulbot_9876]

This is how I understand it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The Fairtax charges all purchases at a very high rate. So if you are a low-income family, your grocery bill could shoot up to $130 from $100 (maybe $140 with local taxes). That would really hurt families. Also, even church items are taxable - so much for separation of church and state. What I see is the FairTax hurting a lot of low-income families, seniors, churches and non-profits. Big Business will not be effected whatsoever.

it is illegal to tax clothing food and shelter...........

 

[Patriot Henry]

Wrong. The FairTax is only on new products, never on used product. This way, everything is taxed only once. Unlike now were stuff is taxed at every stage (when we profit from reselling a product, while earning the money, while investing the money, while inheriting the money, while manufacturing a product, while running a business which makes product which in turn makes the products more expensive, etc.)

Let's see... what do I want... new 30,000 car plus 10,000 tax.. or slightly used car for 28,000 and no tax? Or 20,000 dollar car and no tax?

New 100,000 car and 33,000 in taxes? Or used car for 90,000?

This "FairTax" is another amazing chapter how people can believe anything.

 

[devil21]

Let's see... what do I want... new 30,000 car plus 10,000 tax.. or slightly used car for 28,000 and no tax? Or 20,000 dollar car and no tax?

New 100,000 car and 33,000 in taxes? Or used car for 90,000?

This "FairTax" is another amazing chapter how people can believe anything.

And most purchases like cars and houses are they are done on credit. So now you are paying interest on TAXES that you weren't paying before.