You do have problems with reading comprehension, don't you? You keep saying that we support the Patriot Act. I do not support the Patriot Act. Ron Paul does not support the Patriot Act. You would be hard pressed to find anyone on RPF that supports the Patriot Act. Is that so hard to understand?
Immigration policy, Visas and borders existed before the Patriot Act. They would still exist if the Patriot Act was repealed. The Patriot Act was not part of the conversation, except that you seem to like to bring it up and falsely accuse people of supporting it. We all want to see it repealed.
Do us a favor, "Enforcer", and show me the post where I talked about "illegal" aliens or made any of those "hospital" claims, and also show us the post where you asked me about checking immigration status in a hospital waiting room.
Brian4Liberty,
I've said this many times before, so let me repeat it:
I worked in immigration law for six years; had about TWENTY years of related experience other than the legal aspect, so it's not like I'm some wannabe that came down with last week's rain. Let us refresh your memory.
Brian4Liberty wrote:
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You keep saying that we support the Patriot Act. I do not support the Patriot Act"
RESPONSE: EVERYTHING the anti - immigrant lobbies for is already included in the so - called "
Patriot Act."
Brain4Liberty wrote:
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You would be hard pressed to find anyone on RPF that supports the Patriot Act"
RESPONSE: That is absolutely false. If I stood on a corner and screamed the N word and accused them of every act of infamy known to God or man, you would be asking me why not join the KKK and be done with it. You'd be right. Likewise, when you lobby for the things already contained in the so - called "
Patriot Act," then you are pro - "Patriot Act."
Now, what is so hard for YOU to understand about that?????
Brian4Liberty wrote:
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Immigration policy, Visas and borders existed before the Patriot Act. They would still exist if the Patriot Act was repealed..."
RESPONSE: Prior to the social conservatives like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck selling the people on the virtues of the so - called "
Patriot Act," we had a presumption of innocence; warrant less searches were illegal; the right was
NOT advocating using the military to enforce what the social conservatives and xenophobes are claiming is criminal activity. Before the so - called "
Patriot Act," there was semblance left of a Right to Privacy; we did not have National Identity Cards compliments of the REAL ID Act; the National Defense Authorization Act was not law. ALL of those things were passed on the pretext of fighting some contrived "enemy" that the racists call "
illegal aliens."
If you repeal the so - called "
Patriot Act," you no longer have a law that seeks to rebuild the Berlin Wall along the southern border of the United States. You won't have the increased funding for all those people carrying machine guns along the border. You are arguing against your own lobbying efforts. If you're now conceding defeat, welcome to the real world.
Brian4Liberty wrote:
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Do us a favor, "Enforcer", and show me the post where I talked about "illegal" aliens or made any of those "hospital" claims, and also show us the post where you asked me about checking immigration status in a hospital waiting room"
RESPONSE: Son, the last time you made that challenge, I proved the point. You come here with this demand that I show you where you said such and such, but wait a freaking minute here. Well, take a look at the following thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ts/page7&highlight=brian4liberty,+immigration
When I started posting on this thread, I talked about the anti - immigrant lobby in general. It was
YOU that stuck his nose into the conversation, wanting to challenge me on every point. Yet, before you challenged me,
you were never mentioned in this thread.
Prior to post # 65 of the given link, where did I address you personally? Yet you jump on the bandwagon where
ALL of the allegations I allude to are being made. When I address the issues, you personalize it so that one guy can make the allegation, you can give credence to a single aspect of the issue by challenging me (and never the xenophobes on their factual inaccuracies.) It's like having a man down, several guys kicking his ribs until they're broken while you hold his legs. Then, when the cops show up, you look at them innocently and claim "
I never kicked the guy." I'm sorry Brian4Liberty, but your tactics are disingenuous at best.
When you interject yourself in the conversation and nobody specifically is being accused, you accuse yourself by taking an easily disprovable proposition and then challenging me. Yes, everything I alluded to is in threads on this board. You willingly participate in them, making your political leanings known very well. AND, when someone agrees to debate the matter, the other guys jump the ship and throw you under the bus. The only thing I can do other than to spank you each time is to thank you for making it so easy.
