Greenpeace Founder to Senate: "Man-Made Global Warming Unproven"

[Danke]

The costs of all that outweighed the potential risks.

Um, putting backup generators up on a surrounding hills cost much to a Nuclear power plant?

That bean counter is probably looking for work now.

 

[angelatc]

Um, putting backup generators up on a surrounding hills cost much to a Nuclear power plant?

That bean counter is probably looking for work now.

No, I don't mean the loss of power. I mean the potential fall out from radiation contamination if the plant was leveled by a tornado.

 

[Working Poor]

As per Angelatc's suggestion I started a new thread with the link that I am taking down right now.

 

[ZENemy]

http://youtu.be/d8oKv70WmdQ

wow!

 

[angelatc]

But....science? There is an overwhelming number of scientists who proclaim loudly that man-made global warming is SETTLED science.

How can so many scientists be wrong?

Speaking of lacking a reading comprehension., looks like my newest stalker has one.

Considering that there have been literally thousands of studies on GMO foods, from government, institutions and private firms all over the entire world that have all come to the same conclusion about GMO foods, I think it is disingenious to try to pretend that the FDA is the only organization that has not found any evidence at all that GMO foods are at all harmful.

Global studies reaching a consensus from across the entire spectrum of scientific bodies - that can and does indicate that science is indeed flourishing.

The problem with this argument in this thread is that the same can be said for global warming. There is no debate about it in the scientific community, but yet their models don't seem to be accurate.

GMO food: Introducing a gene from a Brazilian nut into a soybean produced a soybean that triggered a nut allergy. The researchers were looking to see if that might happen, and it did. They built a model, tested a theory and got a result they suspected might happen.

Climate changers don't seem to be able to consistently build models that pan out, but yet the community is sold on the concept. I don't get the disconnect.

And note I don't post a bunch of tripe trying to convince people that my opinion is right while the entire body of scientific consensus is wrong, insisting that everybody in the whole godammed world is on some secret payroll.

If that were true, that scientific consensus could be bought, then Big Oil would be producing study after study "proving"the climate was stable as the result of fossil fuel usage.

 

[mosquitobite]

Speaking of lacking a reading comprehension., looks like my newest stalker has one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sharon-greenthal/narcissism_b_4810518.html

And since I know you don't actually, you know, like to click on links because you're so damn smart already - I'll copy and paste for you. Because I love you so much! <3 <3

Some of the symptoms of narcissism include:

*Believing that you're better than others
*Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
*Exaggerating your achievements or talents
*Expecting constant praise and admiration
*Believing that you're special and acting accordingly

As you can see, narcissists live in a fantasyland of their own sense of exaggerated self-importance. When the world acknowledges them as young beauties, they are given the kind of attention the believe they deserve without having to do much to attract it to them. As they grow older, the loss of attention can wreak havoc. Because they hold a mirror up to the world to see who they are, this lack of attention can very well obliterate their self-worth.

 

[Danke]

No, I don't mean the loss of power. I mean the potential fall out from radiation contamination if the plant was leveled by a tornado.

?? Fukushima?

 

[eduardo89]

Um, putting backup generators up on a surrounding hills cost much to a Nuclear power plant?

That bean counter is probably looking for work now.

The generators probably not. I was talking about building the plant on higher elevation as well as building a higher, stronger tsunami barrier.

The Japanese are ones to skimp on safety and engineering.

 

[donnay]

?? Fukushima?

Reading comprehension--angelatc does have a problem with that.

 

[angelatc]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sharon-greenthal/narcissism_b_4810518.html

And since I know you don't actually, you know, like to click on links because you're so damn smart already - I'll copy and paste for you. Because I love you so much! <3 <3

As usual, you insist on talking about me instead addressing a single fucking thing I said.

And you can't even use your own words? You have to go to a liberal site to get someone else's insults? Good Lord, that's pathetic.

 

[angelatc]

?? Fukushima?

That was not a direct it by a tornado, was it? I'd call that a warning shot across the bow from mother nature.

 

[angelatc]

Reading comprehension--angelatc does have a problem with that.

I am actually amazed that you were able to spell comprehension correctly.

I like how you adopted your new friend's talking point! It isn't true, as I routinely read the stuff you post and point out that it doesn't even say what you think it does, but that's ok. We know how far your formal education went, so nobody really expects too much.

 

[PRB]

Climate changers don't seem to be able to consistently build models that pan out, but yet the community is sold on the concept. I don't get the disconnect.

Really? where are the dissenting models that do pan out?

 

[PRB]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/g...ientific-evidence-of-man-made-global-warming/

who is he? other than being a co-founder of an organization he's left for almost 30 years?

is he a scientist? or does he rely on any scientist's studies to form his opinion?

 

[angelatc]

Really? where are the dissenting models that do pan out?

The failure of other models wouldn't improve the success rate of the models that failed, so I'm not sure what you're getting it.

 

[dannno]

Really? where are the dissenting models that do pan out?

There likely aren't any because global temperatures are affected by too many different things.

 

[fletcher]

who is he? other than being a co-founder of an organization he's left for almost 30 years?

is he a scientist? or does he rely on any scientist's studies to form his opinion?

Yes, he is a scientist. He has a Ph.D. in ecology, which you would know if you read his testimony. Why not just read his testimony to find out about his opinion? Or you can read the chapter in his book that he points to.

 

[PRB]

The failure of other models wouldn't improve the success rate of the models that failed, so I'm not sure what you're getting it.

True, failure rate of other models don't prove the success rate of anything. But is there ANY model which currently has the highest success rate of prediction? That's where I am getting at, because I am pretty sure not all competing models are equally invalid.

 

[PRB]

There likely aren't any because global temperatures are affected by too many different things.

how many of which pass the test of correlation? correlation doesn't mean causation, but lack of correlation absolutely is lack of causation.

 

[fletcher]

Really? where are the dissenting models that do pan out?

You don't need a better model to prove the current ones are garbage. The models speak for themselves. They're totally worthless. Actually, they're worse than worthless because some people actually believe they are reality and want to make policy that will do great harm to the world based on them.