Grassroots Ron Paul Docum3ntary in the works - Help Us Name It!!

[Thunderbolt]

"Ron Paul: The man who predicted our economic crisis and the man who has the answers."

 

[WRellim]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/

MY GOD... I remember seeing that movie when I was a kid... it was HILAROUS (at least back then).

There's clips on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?q=The Mouse That Roared

 

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

r3volution: For Liberty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMREll_IU_k

1:45

 

[Omphfullas Zamboni]

The Audacity of Nope
(How a Grassroots Gave Their All to a Politician Who Promised Nothing)

 

[CavortingChicken]

My Wimbly Bimbledoople : The Man who sang the song of America!

The words should shoot our of Ron Pauls wide open mouth as his eye brows move up and down, above a meek yet eager soft grin.

 

[WRellim]

Thanks everyone for the amazing suggestions. This has been driving me nuts. It has to be perfect. At the moment I'm leaning to:

FOR LIBERTY
How the American Tree of Liberty Was
Watered By the Ron Paul R3volution

Any disagreements on that one?

I do understand and like the "For Liberty" -- but I still think "Freedom Is Popular" would be a better main title choice -- mainly because Ron Paul says it over and over again as the "theme" of why his campaign was attracting followers (and I would think it should also give you choices of LOTS of clips of him saying it).

And I know you're partial to the "Tree of Liberty" -- but it makes me queasy because that quote wasn't about "water" or "sweat" but rather the BLOOD of both patriots and tyrants, and since our "revolution" is entirely peaceful and violence free (and lets pray it STAYS that way) it doesn't seem apropos. (And for those who don't know the Jefferson quote it will just seem "weird" -- as the other way that people "water" trees is... well, *ahem* with urine, which is not a good image to my mind.)

I'd lean back towards your own initial ideas of "Ron Paul statesman" -- and so I'd suggest something like "The story of Ron Paul Resurgent, the First Statesman for a Restored American Republic" (or "The story of Ron Paul's R3volution" in place of "Resurgent" -- but I like the latter because it was his late-life "resurgence" that was MORE popular than his first try.)

And then I'd fit the Albert Nock quote in there somewhere as a "tagline" in small italics (either on the front or back cover)

Together it could look something like this:

______________________________________
Freedom
is
Popular !
The story of Ron Paul Resurgent,
the First Statesman
for a Restored American Republic

"You do not know, and will never know, who the Remnant are, nor what they are doing or will do. Two things you do know, and no more: First, that they exist; second, that they will find you."
-- Albert Jay Nock
______________________________________
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Don't know what you have in mind for a graphic... but in some senses I *do* think the guy throwing flowers is "intriguing" in ways that a photo of people marching with signs is NOT. Plus the folowers in color contrast with the start B&W and the "spray-paint"/grafitti is reminiscent of the banners so many of us spent hours on. I guess the only real question is if Banksy considers it to be copyright and whether you would need to license it -- the image HAS kindof become a RPR mascot (here and here, with the r3volution logo).


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[WRellim]

Cover Sample -- Banksy/FreedomIsPopular

OK, I took a few minutes and worked up a couple of quick cover samples (with alternate color schemes -- the right would be cool as "gold" not sure whether foil would be prohibitive, but you get the concept anyway):

Other advantages of something like this is that it can easily be adapted to black & White for ads, etc. And a color version could be printed as a poster or one-sheet or even color or B/W laser printed in small copies (thinking viral here for grassroots promotion) without horribly affecting the concepts... indeed the "gritty" approach goes with the story.

Lemme know what y'all think... if this is anything like the direction it should go (the backside of the box cover could be video stills & images of rallies, etc.)

I think something like the above would be COOL and yet different enough from the standard "Ron Paul" fare that it might slip under some people's radar.
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[AdamT]

The Audacity of Nope
(How a Grassroots Gave Their All to a Politician Who Promised Nothing)

HA!

 

[Jbrabble]

I don't think a 2 word title will really catch anyone's eye if they're not already a supporter. Throw in some action words to get peoples attention. How about "THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM" a story of blah blah blah

 

[AdamT]

WRellim thanks for the design ideas. I have a concept in mind, a scrapbook-like collage of all kinds of different photos from the campaign. Then get someone to paint it (or use PS filters), similar to this.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

OK, I took a few minutes and worked up a couple of quick cover samples (with alternate color schemes -- the right would be cool as "gold" not sure whether foil would be prohibitive, but you get the concept anyway):

Other advantages of something like this is that it can easily be adapted to black & White for ads, etc. And a color version could be printed as a poster or one-sheet or even color or B/W laser printed in small copies (thinking viral here for grassroots promotion) without horribly affecting the concepts... indeed the "gritty" approach goes with the story.

Lemme know what y'all think... if this is anything like the direction it should go (the backside of the box cover could be video stills & images of rallies, etc.)

I think something like the above would be COOL and yet different enough from the standard "Ron Paul" fare that it might slip under some people's radar.
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AWESOME!

-t

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

WRellim thanks for the design ideas. I have a concept in mind, a scrapbook-like collage of all kinds of different photos from the campaign. Then get someone to paint it (or use PS filters), similar to this.

Please rethink that - it looks totally lame!

In my comments, I have tried to think of myself browsing a video store for a movie I might like to watch - what would catch my attention. Some titles really suck me in! some graphics really suck me in! - Others NOT! This falls into the latter category. It reminds me of a "Velvet Elvis".

-t

 

[Conza88]

I think "Freedom is Popular etc" is kind of playing to the movement too much..

"The Remnant" imo, kind of takes it to that mainstream level branding... eh ?

That's a name for a blockbuster of epic proportions for sure. Tbh, I think you could name it anything and the grassroots outreach / Ron Paul supporters would pretty much get it regardless, with rave reviews from lew, C4l, dailypaul, here, etc...

I do like the idea of at least fine tuning the possibilities via an offical type polls here, as prev. suggested *shrugs*... but ultimately the descision is up to the owners

 

[Conza88]

This is the sums up the reason I like "FOR LIBERTY".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiIOFlNIOcQ

Yeah I used that to end my vid, just different angles..

And whoever posted that other "For Liberty".. what he was signing the NH thing, that was good aswell

 

[Conza88]

Please rethink that - it looks totally lame!

In my comments, I have tried to think of myself browsing a video store for a movie I might like to watch - what would catch my attention. Some titles really suck me in! some graphics really suck me in! - Others NOT! This falls into the latter category. It reminds me of a "Velvet Elvis".

-t

It could probably be like that "High Tide ad" for Ron Paul... i.e the explosions going off etc, or other actions shots... lol, that would bring people in.. visually enough to read the back of the cover, etc... make a purchase.

 

[WRellim]

I think "Freedom is Popular etc" is kind of playing to the movement too much..

Does it really? I mean I think it can work differently at BOTH levels or groups.

For supporters, sure WE are familiar with him using the phrase.

For non-supporters... will they recognize it as RP's catchphrase? (at least prior to watching the vid) -- I dunno, but I don't think so.

The question is... would NON-supporters find that "enticing" -- not so much that I imagine it's on shelves at Blockbuster (we can only dream) -- but if they see it on the corner of someone's desk or coffee table... would that title and the imagery make them curious?

"The Remnant" imo, kind of takes it to that mainstream level branding... eh ?

That's a name for a blockbuster of epic proportions for sure. Tbh, I think you could name it anything and the grassroots outreach / Ron Paul supporters would pretty much get it regardless, with rave reviews from lew, C4l, dailypaul, here, etc...

I do like the idea of at least fine tuning the possibilities via an offical type polls here, as prev. suggested *shrugs*... but ultimately the descision is up to the owners

"The Remnant" -- see I can only see that phrase two ways:

The first is with the Isaiah [Biblical] reference (and the corollary of Albert Jay Nock's piece of course, but that is derivative of the Biblical reference).

And the second way... is not really a blockbuster but rather (dare I say it) as a low-budget Ed Wood or Roger Corman style "B-grade" horror flick.... watch out or "The Remnant" will get you... very "Children of the Corn" type thing.

Dunno... I think a poll would tell you what RP supporters would pick, but the only way to really tell with the general public would be some type of random survey and/or a focus group thingee...


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[Conza88]

Does it really? I mean I think it can work differently at BOTH levels or groups.

For supporters, sure WE are familiar with him using the phrase.

For non-supporters... will they recognize it as RP's catchphrase? (at least prior to watching the vid) -- I dunno, but I don't think so.

The question is... would NON-supporters find that "enticing" -- not so much that I imagine it's on shelves at Blockbuster (we can only dream) -- but if they see it on the corner of someone's desk or coffee table... would that title and the imagery make them curious?

We won't know - unless someone goes out with a list of say 10 sayings... and asks Randoms what would you be most likely to buy, or look closer at?

Could have several mock ups of each, with the graphics...

"The Remnant" -- see I can only see that phrase two ways:

The first is with the Isaiah [Biblical] reference (and the corollary of Albert Jay Nock's piece of course, but that is derivative of the Biblical reference).

And the second way... is not really a blockbuster but rather (dare I say it) as a low-budget Ed Wood or Roger Corman style "B-grade" horror flick.... watch out or "The Remnant" will get you... very "Children of the Corn" type thing.

Dunno... I think a poll would tell you what RP supporters would pick, but the only way to really tell with the general public would be some type of random survey and/or a focus group thingee...

 

[AdamT]

Please rethink that - it looks totally lame!

In my comments, I have tried to think of myself browsing a video store for a movie I might like to watch - what would catch my attention. Some titles really suck me in! some graphics really suck me in! - Others NOT! This falls into the latter category. It reminds me of a "Velvet Elvis".

-t

LOL. OK, agreed, bad example. Here's another.

Now imagine a R3V photo collage painted in that style. It will be very well designed to grab people.

 

[Conza88]

LOL. OK, agreed, bad example. Here's another.

Now imagine a R3V photo collage painted in that style.

I'll take 10 copies...

 

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

Depending on how this movie turns out will determine what type of title it deserves. I think trying to name it before we've seen anything is a little premature. Most works of art aren't named until they are finished or at least close to being finished.

I think some ideas on this thread are a bit more militant than others. It is interesting that some people want to call it "The Remnant" while others want "Freedom is Popular". Kind of ironic how two opposite ideas are being applied to something that hasn't even been done yet.

IMO, if the makers of this documentary really want to produce a work that will move people, then they need to get off of these forums and spend time soul searching; because inevitably this documentary won't be about the movement, but your perception of it. And that is what you need to bring into focus.