Grass-Fed Meat vs Grain-Fed Meat: Real information, not Zippy's version.

[luctor-et-emergo]

Lets get 'cow-splitting' into the dictionary. I'm all in favor.
Better for the farmer as well. Consumers actually care about their effort to care for their animals while large corporations only care about certificates when were talking grass-fed/organic etc.

So yeah! Split them cows.

It's also interesting for anyone that likes cooking. When you slaughter an entire cow (or take 50% of it...) you get lots of different parts. Organ meat, a head... There's lots of things to make. Head-cheese is actually quite good although it will gross out most people. Tail makes nice oxtail soup (yeah I know a cow isn't an ox but that doesn't really matter if you're making soup). You can smoke some beef-bacon. There's loads of bones to use in stocks. Did I mention the organs ? Liver, kidney .. Sweetbreads.

Ah well pretty much the entire fucking thing is edible and I think as a moral human being you should strive to not waste parts of an animal that gave their life for you to eat.

I must say I hardly ever buy high end steaks. I buy cheap cuts from organic/grass-fed beef and I make stews with that rather than juicy steaks..

 

[donnay]

So wouldn't the moral of the story for us humans is to eat more plants like the cows do for better health?

Grass are the only plants that have Omega 3's?

I don't think you know what your talking about. We are not multi-gastric and aren't designed to break down the cellulose in grass to get out the nutriments. Cows on the other hand, can.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Lets get 'cow-splitting' into the dictionary. I'm all in favor.
Better for the farmer as well. Consumers actually care about their effort to care for their animals while large corporations only care about certificates when were talking grass-fed/organic etc.

So yeah! Split them cows.

It's also interesting for anyone that likes cooking. When you slaughter an entire cow (or take 50% of it...) you get lots of different parts. Organ meat, a head... There's lots of things to make. Head-cheese is actually quite good although it will gross out most people. Tail makes nice oxtail soup (yeah I know a cow isn't an ox but that doesn't really matter if you're making soup). You can smoke some beef-bacon. There's loads of bones to use in stocks. Did I mention the organs ? Liver, kidney .. Sweetbreads.

Ah well pretty much the entire fucking thing is edible and I think as a moral human being you should strive to not waste parts of an animal that gave their life for you to eat.

I must say I hardly ever buy high end steaks. I buy cheap cuts from organic/grass-fed beef and I make stews with that rather than juicy steaks..

That's the primary reason I don't buy a butchered cow. I personally know a rancher and could almost certainly buy a cow cut-rate, but I can't do offal. Shudder. I'd rather not waste parts of a living creature, which I would do if I bought a cow.

 

[presence]

That's the primary reason I don't buy a butchered cow. I personally know a rancher and could almost certainly buy a cow cut-rate, but I can't do offal. Shudder. I'd rather not waste parts of a living creature, which I would do if I bought a cow.

At my local slaughter house you can choose to take or leave anything you want and whatever you leave the slaughter house distributes; there is no more "waste" than in any other slaughter operation. They'll chop up the cow anyway I like it and give me back only the parts I want. In my experience that is pretty standard. You contract with the farmer, you let him know how you want it cut and what you want back... farmer trucks cow to slaughter at his preferred house, then a week later you pick up frozen paper packages either from the farmer or directly from the house. Its pretty common practice to leave behind some percentage of "undesirables" and that's generally up to you to declare before hand, the farmer can help you make those decisions. You usually pay the farmer on "hung weight" which might be 650lbs, but you only end up coming home with 450 or so that is actually "meat". The rest of it... lard, bone, head, dick, hooves... it all has a market to the house, so if you don't take those parts, its still being used for dog food, etc.

 

[Spikender]

Locker plants still exist.

Small freezers are cheap.

But you can justify anything if you want.........

You guys actually didn't justify why someone should go out of their way to buy 1/2 a cow other than saying doing less is pushed by "consumer society".

 

[specsaregood]

Flax seed oil tops the chart at 12059mg - over four hundred times as much!

The omega 3 in flax is not the same as in meat sources, it is ALA, not DHA or EPA. Our body has to convert the ALA to DHA and EPA to use it and we are very inefficient in that conversion process. IIRC, men in particular can't convert ALA as well as women.

 

[tod evans]

You guys actually didn't justify why someone should go out of their way to buy 1/2 a cow other than saying doing less is pushed by "consumer society".

My reasoning is it taste better and I know what I'm eating and who has touched it.

Besides where else can you get prime rib and burger for under $4.00?

 

[Suzanimal]

My reasoning is it taste better and I know what I'm eating and who has touched it.

Besides where else can you get prime rib and burger for under $4.00?

I pay extra not to meet my food.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

At my local slaughter house you can choose to take or leave anything you want and whatever you leave the slaughter house distributes; there is no more "waste" than in any other slaughter operation. They'll chop up the cow anyway I like it and give me back only the parts I want. In my experience that is pretty standard. You contract with the farmer, you let him know how you want it cut and what you want back... farmer trucks cow to slaughter at his preferred house, then a week later you pick up frozen paper packages either from the farmer or directly from the house. Its pretty common practice to leave behind some percentage of "undesirables" and that's generally up to you to declare before hand, the farmer can help you make those decisions. You usually pay the farmer on "hung weight" which might be 650lbs, but you only end up coming home with 450 or so that is actually "meat". The rest of it... lard, bone, head, dick, hooves... it all has a market to the house, so if you don't take those parts, its still being used for dog food, etc.

I have wanted to do this for a while. I should ask him at the next GOP meeting. He's the County Chair, and we get along great!

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

I pay extra not to meet my food.

That's just something you have to get through once.
I can still remember the first fish I smacked on the head and then gutted. I don't remember the ones after that.

It's actually quite nice if you're conscious of where your food comes from. Does make you not eat certain things though. At least for me.

 

[Suzanimal]

That's just something you have to get through once.
I can still remember the first fish I smacked on the head and then gutted. I don't remember the ones after that.

It's actually quite nice if you're conscious of where your food comes from. Does make you not eat certain things though. At least for me.

Oh, have no problem killing fish. I don't have a problem seeing an animal killed or butchered, either. I just don't want to look it in the eyes or pet it before I eat it.

 

[presence]

Oh, have no problem killing fish. I don't have a problem seeing an animal killed or butchered, either. I just don't want to look it in the eyes or pet it before I eat it.

Giving your cow a name like tbone helps

 

[farreri]

I don't think you know what your talking about. We are not multi-gastric and aren't designed to break down the cellulose in grass to get out the nutriments. Cows on the other hand, can.

I'll ask again, grass are the only plants that have Omega 3's?

 

[Suzanimal]

Giving your cow a name like tbone helps

My aunt had some turkeys she named Thanksgiving and Christmas.

 

[farreri]

The omega 3 in flax is not the same as in meat sources, it is ALA, not DHA or EPA. Our body has to convert the ALA to DHA and EPA to use it and we are very inefficient in that conversion process.

How do cows get DHA or EPA?

IIRC, men in particular can't convert ALA as well as women.

Doesn't seem to matter:

"Men benefited more than women from the vegetarian diet."
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-a-Plant-Based-Diet-(study-published-in-JAMA)

 

[tod evans]

I pay extra not to meet my food.

That's your prerogative......

Might I suggest never even driving by a commercial slaughter house or meeting their employees.....

Clear cellophane tells a tale to those who know.....

 

[Suzanimal]

I'm starting to think Ferrari hates meat. And I'm picturing Ferrari as girl for some reason - that wasn't meant as an insult, btw. I just read her posts in my girl voice.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

That's your prerogative......

Might I suggest never even driving by a commercial slaughter house or meeting their employees.....

Clear cellophane tells a tale to those who know.....

Cannot rep anymore .

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Oh, have no problem killing fish. I don't have a problem seeing an animal killed or butchered, either. I just don't want to look it in the eyes or pet it before I eat it.

Great, I don't cuddle with animals I eat either. Although I did go pet some Wagyu last year which I ate beef from a couple times after that.

 

[specsaregood]

How do cows get DHA or EPA?

Don't see how that matters to me as I'm not a cow. If you wish to be a cow, feel free to eat like one.