Could we please cut the "divider" crap already?
The more people doing more--and more creative--things to promote the rEVOLution the better.
While I generally agree with this, I don't know about this kind of "creativity"
Why anyone would want to be known as a liar?
On April 16th, 2008
Granny Warrior says:
I don't know who this person is and don't really care but I was there, I took a good count, there were at least
1,200 people there all day long, At the very end of the day there were still a crowd which is very unusual., At most of the rallys when Dr. Paul leaves it is over.. this one was much different, the rally started when he left with 22 speakers and bands and Dave with his music. Look at the phtots and videos. It was a great day and I am so proud to have been a part of it. The congessmen came out on the steps and watched as did the snipers on the roof tops.
Anyone that trys to minimise this crowd is off their rockers. The people at this rally were spread all over the place, with blankets, chairs and their familys and picnic lunches. This is what a rally should be like. Fun, learning and sharing with each other..
When you get ready to put together your 500 000 march let us know we will be there to cheer you on not try to discourage your efforts.
Granny Warrior
Ok, this is just slightly belittling (and grossly exaggerating, Interesting title considering the content... ), please note her last sentence.
Now, lets look at a later post;
drizzle you still fizzle..
On April 17th, 2008
Granny Warrior says:
You either can't count or do so very selectively.. even at the end and I mean the very end there were more than 200 people there as more than that many helped clean up the paper and pick up all the trash..Get real and learn to really count. There were over 100 people who just worked with us all day. plus the sound operators and different orgs. staffs.. now how would you explain the people sitting on the walls, on the ground and walking around the lawns?
And as far as June 21st I guess there will be 100,000,000 there that day... You are living in a bottle... there will be no 21st.. Nada, nill, nothing going on that day.. at least not in Washington.
By the way, you probably were not even there.. I would bet you weren't. You say we were too busy for you to come and talk to us? What were we doing that was so important we wouldn't have time to say hellO???
Granny Warrior
www.grannywarriors.com
At this point the r3vmarch folk had not gotten an answer from RP, so while she is technically correct, it certainly flies in the face of her ealier statement noted above. (As a side note I will add that she was quite rude to me when I made "the time to say HELLO." Fact is, I did not even get to finish saying, "Hi my name is and I just wanted to say hello and thanks... before she cut me off saying "yeah great. Now put that bag down and go start cleaning up.)
Now, I am not one to pick on old ladies (and shrugged off her rudeness to age and exhuastion), but I really do not think this one has the Ron Paul r3VOLution's best interests at heart. I think she is dancing to her own drum and likes to crash her conspiracy cymbals a bit... much. I mean, what is up with her going on about snipers on rooftops in DC? GMAB.
While I can appreciate all she has done, and may even donate again if her wagon breaks down, I will not consider her a "leader" of the RP-GR until she learns some diplomacy, and how to play well with others.
Continueing...
About Grannys Profits????
On April 19th, 2008
Granny Warrior says:
I try not to be mean most of the time but when people come on like you GIN and say we are profiting from this, you have to be joking.
We collected $5345.00, it cost us just for the staging alone, $2,226.00, porta potties @ $65.00 each, generator $460.00,food $649.00, drinks $450.00, ( this was supposed to be for the speakers and workers but it turned out that others used the buffet as well which was no problem) then airline tickets for some of the guests, gas money for others, plus our own gas and we wound up $1,019 in the hole. Oh I forgot the Camp ground fees for some of the guests that came in with RV's. And how about all the DVD's, wrist bands and buttons which were given away. Do you think they are free? The Slim Jims and printed material has to be paid for also. It has always been this way and I am not complaining as
we make most of the expenses on donations but don't you ever even imply we are profiting from this. You are certainly in no position to say one way or the other.
The permit is absolutely FREE as is the POLICE PROTECTION.
As for the Ron Paul March, I commend who ever that is that is doing that but it would be nice to know who you are dealing with. Why keep the organizers names secret?
I would hesitate to send in money to any cause I could not verify who was getting it. That seems like a common sense thing to me.
I would think they would get lots more help if they would simply say who they are and how to contact them. I also have offered to be of any help I can to that group, we have tried to work with them from the start which would have been a lot nicer than each doing their own thing seperately. But we did and succeeded to do what we set out to do even with all the snide and rude remarks that were made along with insinuations of us lying about Ron being there..
The Congress had people out on the balcony all day long watching, as did some of the senators. And I guarantee you Ron Paul was not embarassed by a poor showing. Not a single one of the other congressmen could have had that many people on the lawn for them on a tuesday. Many of them were clapping for the speakers and some even bounced up and down to the music. We accomplished what we set out to do but we did not profit from it other than having a raging headache, tired bones and worn out mind. I am still recouperating from the experience.
Granny Warrior
www.grannywarriors.com
First of all, I have profited from my involvement in this campaign. After I quit my job in HI and spent all my savings, friends, family, and fellow supporters have helped subsidize my continuing efforts. Without that help I could never have pedelled a bicycle 3500 miles; gone to NH
, SC
, or TX
; nor would I be going to Campaign Management School next week. Basically I would still be killing time in HI, waiting to die. RP and, mostly,
the GR has given me a new reason to live and that, my friends, is profit.
Linda has profited, also, no matter what she wants to call it. And now she wants $25,000 for her Birthday Bash in Sturgis. Hhhmmmm...
Anyway, this thread is about the competing marchs.
Linda claims to have offered to help people she can't contact... Hmmmm...
She, also, erroneously claims that the police contingent is free and then goes on to discourage support, what a sweet
old lady... Now, if she could only get over the hypocrisy.
But lets leave the poor lady alone, for now, and look at some posts from her staff;
Again
On April 17th, 2008
MichelleM says:
There is no June Rally,
there is NO permit. Though we do hope they can find some date for some kind of Rally.
As far as I heard from the "horses mouth", they cannot get a permit for June or
July in DC.
Seems she was listening to the wrong end of the horse. I must say though GW&Co are certainly consistent in their hypocrisy. The sarcasm drips hideously
The following post is the one that got my goat though;
It is not juvenile... it is
On April 19th, 2008
MichelleM says:
It is not juvenile... it is responsibility... the July March has not shown proof of the permit, they haven't explained why
they are conning people and telling them they need even money for police when that is NO CHARGE and they haven't said WHO is in charge so how does anyone know WHERE the money is going?
The Granny Warriors have always been honest and that is why they have raised over $100,000 in funds to help the Ron Paul campaign!
I called the office where you get your permit and they said you don't have one! Now show it or
stop conning people! You couldn't get one for June OR July!
Besides the obvious hostility and lies, I must note that Linda insisting there were 1200 pax there all day tells me a bit about their accuracy. And being accurate is a large part of honesty. More importantly is this $100,000 they have raised for RP. Since they claim to be so open and honest, I sure would like to see where all that money went...
There's more, but this whole episode saddens me and I'll just say that I hope this all works out for us all...
