Grand Strategy: How Ron Paul Can (Still) Win the Nomination

[harikaried]

• Not enough focus on effective activism like making calls with the Phone From Home program: activism that actually wins votes.

Indeed. Direct voter contact is the best way to get people to vote for Ron Paul.

I just donated another $1000 to rp2012.org's efforts for us to win Washington to help pay for call centers to follow up on rp08orbust's robocalls because there aren't enough volunteers to follow up with Identified-Ron-Paul-Supporters. That's all of my discretionary budget for 2012 used up by the first week of March!

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Info to help: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?364229-STOP!!!!-DO-THIS-IF-YOU-WANT-TO-WIN!!-WA!!

 

[PolicyReader]

^^

You must spread some more reputation around before giving any more to harikaried

 

[beezle]

a very good piece

Unfortunately, as you have noted, far too many are wasting their time with media and vote fraud allegations and I just don't see that changing. Also, as I found out when I was very heavily involved in 2007/08, only a small fraction of the 'ron paul supporters' will actually do hard work - door to door or similar. A marginally higher number will do sign waves which are pretty useless, especially this cycle.

I worry that phone from home can go from being helpful to being a disaster if not managed properly. Just look at your own personal experience. How many times do you like to hear from a campaign? I'd say that after 2x you are gonna get annoyed. And of course some thought has to go into who to call in the first place. I also think that door to door has better results but the problem is the time involved and the lack of volunteers to put boots on the ground.

The one assumption you make which I think may not turn out is that if Santorum and Gingrich drop out that RP will pick up all or even most of their votes. Besides those who will still vote eventhough they have dropped out, I just don't see Santorum voters going to RP. Most will go Romney or stay home. I think we have a better chance of getting some of Newt's supporters, but again not the lion share. I think we can be candid between ourselves and agree that the big sticking point is foreign policy. Newt is inching towards leave Afghanistan, but not for RP reasons. And I think he still wants to hammer Iran. I personally think Israel may do something in May, hopefully what ever fiasco they start would not be too late to swing people our way.

I do agree that anythign can happen at the convention, but as you have said it better include winning some big ones near the end and doing better than we have so far in the rest. It will be too unpalatable to many to vote for a candidate who has consistently come in third or fourth. Again, being honest - caucuses don't represent a true view of the population in a given state. For that reason the primary states are going to weigh far heavier. In effect we are asking delegates to disenfranchise voters in early(ier) states. There better be a very good and acceptable reason for them to do this (other than our own personal feelings.)

 

[beezle]

Have you posted this at the dailypaul.com ??

probably a waste of time imho. they won't get past the part where he says stop crying about media and vote fraud accusations. Not that all the people there are that way but dp reminds me of all the people who used to sign up for the meetup groups and then never show up to do anything.

 

[Paul4Prez]

Excellent write-up, but Ron Paul will never win a brokered convention. We have infiltrated the apparatus in many states, but not to a sufficient degree. Ron Paul's only path to the nomination is to win most of the remaining states, especially Virginia (a 2-man race), Texas (his home state) and California (a state where his policies ought to make him the top choice, but where he managed only 4% last time).

Getting out the vote is the key, the biggest key, and really, the only key. Ron Paul has a solid 10 percent of the population supporting him now. If we all turn out to vote, that's way more than enough to win, because so few people vote in the primaries.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Great post!

The Path to Victory:
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4.The grassroots is operating nowhere near its full potential. There are states where the total statewide activism amounts to little more than sign waves organized on Meetup. There are dormant organizations in the states that have already voted, when those organizations should have been reabsorbed into the grassroots and be now moving at full speed to help the other states. We have hundreds of thousands of identified supporters spread across all 50 states - why are they not organized into 50 state networks and operating like unofficial adjuncts of the official campaign?

RAWR!!!

Lets go!!

 

[PolicyReader]

bump, let's consider this and find our feed for the rush to Super Tuesday

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If you have any questions about California's effort so far, respond below and I will do my best to answer.

A few questions: Are you coordinating with the official Ron Paul campaign? All of the California Ron Paul Meet-ups? California Republican Liberty Caucus?

 

[speciallyblend]

Working to WIN Colorado, which we still can

 

[mikeforliberty]

bump. this thread needs another look.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

bump. this thread needs another look.

Yep.

 

[Christopher David]

A few questions: Are you coordinating with the official Ron Paul campaign? All of the California Ron Paul Meet-ups? California Republican Liberty Caucus?

No, not yet, and yes. We are in the process of getting people from HQ to reach out to all Meetup groups.

 

[Christopher David]

If anyone can think of a path to victory different from the above, I would like to hear it.

 

[xrob123]

This thread might as well be named delusional: how the person in last place manages to win the nomination.

In other words: Impossible.

Ron shoudl've attacked Romney when he had the chance, now its too late.

 

[JasonM]

The path to victory at this point involves getting as many liberty candidates elected and throwing your donation money at them instead of the Ron Paul campaign.

This movement is bigger than Ron Paul now. Let's take over congress and ensure that Obama's next 4 years are worse than Bush's last 4 years!!

 

[Christopher David]

This thread might as well be named delusional: how the person in last place manages to win the nomination.

In other words: Impossible.

Ron shoudl've attacked Romney when he had the chance, now its too late.

The point is that he won't continue to BE in last place if we implement the above.

We are still somewhere between Scenarios 1 and 2, outlined above - not too late to pull from behind.

The race is far from over, unless we give up.

It is not too late for a game changer - a flexing of muscles from the grassroots.

It really is up to us.

 

[coffeewithchess]

I'll just leave this here...since it was moved to "Hot Topics":
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365491-Want-a-BROKERED-convention

 

[xrob123]

The point is that he won't continue to BE in last place if we implement the above.

We are still somewhere between Scenarios 1 and 2, outlined above - not too late to pull from behind.

The race is far from over, unless we give up.

It is not too late for a game changer - a flexing of muscles from the grassroots.

It really is up to us.

The Republican party is beyond fixable. Even if it was Ron and Romney, Romney would win; Virginia has told us that. Ron hasn't won one state and we're half way through Super Tuesday-- there's no chance. The best case is he uses his delegates to promote a message or force Rand as VP.

 

[jwhitmore]

A rising tide may raise all ships, but a tide going out lowers all ships. You spent a lot of time in a campaign that is not going to succeed and therefore didn't help you and that is time you could have spent on your own.

 

[Xenophage]

A rising tide may raise all ships, but a tide going out lowers all ships. You spent a lot of time in a campaign that is not going to succeed and therefore didn't help you and that is time you could have spent on your own.

Thanks for the positive contribution to the conversation, dude. You rock! I bet you didn't waste ANY time helping the Ron Paul campaign, and are therefore propelling the liberty movement towards ultimate victory! Hooray!