Graduates with $200,000 degrees now considered "very poor"

[onlyrp]

What are you talking about? "Everything right" according to whom?

according to the fact there are alternatives, according to the past when people didn't have such expenses, if you are going to blame somebody, you better show you did everything you could.

Otherwise, why not gamble away your money and blame you didn't have enough to gamble? Says who that's not an acceptable way to spend money? If you're gonna go down this "who are you to judge game", you might as well burn your money and blame me, right?

 

[otherone]

"If money is speech, poverty is silence."

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission
I'm mildly surprised that members of a grassroots movement chooses to focus on calling poor people stupid and lazy rather than keying in on the larger message.

 

[rjl]

i disagree, supply and demand matter a lot.

There's varying degrees of homelessness, and not all modern conveniences have to be sacrificed.

Why don't you actually run some numbers and we'll see what you're talking about. I'd love to be wrong!

Start from the top, what is your pre-tax, then post tax income, and what are you expenses for living?

Varying degrees of homelessness? Is that anything like being half-pregnant?

 

[onlyrp]

Varying degrees of homelessness? Is that anything like being half-pregnant?

I never heard half pregnant, but this is what i meant.

Some people consider not having their own home free from parents to be "homeless" as they are not paying to live on their own independently.
Some people truly cannot afford rent, but get by OK if they have a trailer or big car.
Some manage to find either shared shelter, or crash at a friend's house, this is technically homeless, but not out on the street.
Still worse, are those who have nothing, and sleep outdoors, or in boxes.
So there are varying ways of being homeless, or varying consequences of the same problem of homeless. Sorry if I misphrased it.

 

[NidStyles]

supply and demand matter a lot.

This is just not true. Supply and Demand doesn't effect the price of electricity, food and water, or fuel. All of that is set through cost versus profit ratios and heavily regulated to prevent shortages or abundances from fluctuating the prices. Electricity is regulated by the EPA and the Department of the Interior. Food is regulated but Federal law to maintain stability in price. Water is essential the same as food. Fuel, the only determining marker for that price is the Futures market, and every prior fluctuation before it hit's the pump is already priced in.

The largest influences on the cost of all of these are inflation and taxation.

 

[onlyrp]

This is just not true. Supply and Demand doesn't effect the price of electricity, food and water, or fuel. All of that is set through cost versus profit ratios and heavily regulated to prevent shortages or abundances from fluctuating the prices. Electricity is regulated by the EPA and the Department of the Interior. Food is regulated but Federal law to maintain stability in price. Water is essential the same as food. Fuel, the only determining marker for that price is the Futures market, and every prior fluctuation before it hit's the pump is already priced in.

The largest influences on the cost of all of these are inflation and taxation.

I don't know what planet you live on, but it does. A lot.

This is why cost of living varies by location, some places have either more supply or less demand or easier access to utilities, and those places cost less to live, UNTIL POPULATION GROWS THERE.

Fuel, or specifically, gasoline, is HIGHLY dependent on demand, though not directly from the consumer pump. Either way, utilities, gasoline, food altogether make up less than rent or mortgage, if not less than half of it. I dare you tell me that cost of rent and mortgage is not supply vs. demand dependant.

Even inflation is a supply/demand factor, inflation means dollars increase, and the value of dollars decrease, and therefore prices go up. Inflation doesn't happen unless people are given or loaned more money, which is increase of supply of money, and increase of demand of goods, both lead to higher prices. Taxation too is a money supply influence, which is in turn, a supply and demand influence on commodities