Governor Nixon removing STL PD from Ferguson

[Roxi]

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/14/reports_gov_nixon_to_remove_st_louis_county_police_from_ferguson/

“The worsening situation in Ferguson is deeply troubling, and does not represent who we are as Missourians or as Americans. While we all respect the solemn responsibility of our law enforcement officers to protect the public, we must also safeguard the rights of Missourians to peaceably assemble and the rights of the press to report on matters of public concern,” Nixon said in a statement this morning.

 

[oyarde]

So he is sending the State Police ?

 

[CPUd]

It's like every single decision these guys make results in a PR nightmare.

 

[tod evans]

Kicking the foxes out of the henhouse to make way for the wolves.....

 

[Lucille]

Arresting and charging the cop who murdered that man would have prevented all of this. That would be too easy, I guess. Besides:

"What's the point of having this superb military that you're always talking about if we can't use it?"
--Madeleine Albright

 

[Philhelm]

If I were the governor I would mobilize the National Guard, fully armed, in order to defend the people against the police.

 

[AuH20]

 

[CPUd]

How to not get bad press:

* do not attack journalists.


How to not get your department taken over by the feds:

* do not make bad press worse


How to not make bad press worse:

* do not attack journalists

 

[SeanTX]

A lot of the people who complained about how the FBI behaved in Watertown MA will be cheering them on in Ferguson.

On a gun forum I read some of the people who complained about the FBI pointing weapons at people in Watertown are all for snipers taking aim on peaceful protesters in Ferguson.

All because those people are all "ghetto rats" and "animals" (never mind the fact that it's probably a small percentage of them looting, etc, and some of those are opportunists and agitators from out of town).

 

[CPUd]

According to what people on the livestream were saying, the ones doing the looting were from a nearby area, not where they were firing teargas last night.

 

[phill4paul]

A lot of the people who complained about how the FBI behaved in Watertown MA will be cheering them on in Ferguson.

On a gun forum I read some of the people who complained about the FBI pointing weapons at people in Watertown are all for snipers taking aim on peaceful protesters in Ferguson.

All because those people are all "ghetto rats" and "animals" (never mind the fact that it's probably a small percentage of them looting, etc, and some of those are opportunists and agitators from out of town).

Seems everyone loves to have someone to hate. I'd start with the one drawing down on me.

 

[AuH20]

According to what people on the livestream were saying, the ones doing the looting were from a nearby area, not where they were firing teargas last night.

Did you hear about the white guy with the dog who wanted to lend support to the protesters last night? They nearly attacked him and chased him off. They erroneously thought he was a cop. That tells you how far gone some of these people are.

 

[Antischism]

A lot of the people who complained about how the FBI behaved in Watertown MA will be cheering them on in Ferguson.

On a gun forum I read some of the people who complained about the FBI pointing weapons at people in Watertown are all for snipers taking aim on peaceful protesters in Ferguson.

All because those people are all "ghetto rats" and "animals" (never mind the fact that it's probably a small percentage of them looting, etc, and some of those are opportunists and agitators from out of town).

Well, that's pretty obvious. People like to pretend we live in some sort of post-racial America, but blacks are still viewed as subhuman and subjected to harsher punishment under the law in comparison to whites (even when they commit the same 'crimes'). They're targeted by stop-and-frisks, have a history of being portrayed as criminals or shady characters in media (while the white mobs are romanticized), have been targeted and had their communities destroyed by the war on drugs, have a history of slavery and struggle in the not-too-distant past, grow up in poverty and a lot of the time to single parents, don't have many positive role models, see people clutch their purses or cross the street in their presence, are told they're 'one of the good ones' all the time by people who lack tact (as if to say blacks are inherently inferior as a whole), deal with stupid, racist comments on websites casting a wide net on people of color (check out a lot of YouTube videos), etc.

It goes on. Ask any white person if they'd prefer to live life as a black person and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would want to subject themselves to the shit black people have to deal with on a daily basis.

And remember, the NRA and Saint Reagan advocated for gun control when blacks wanted to open carry.

 

[SeanTX]

Did you hear about the white guy with the dog who wanted to lend support to the protesters last night? They nearly attacked him and chased him off. They erroneously thought he was a cop. That tells you how far gone some of these people are.

I heard about that, and wondered about him, and the dog. What kind of fool takes their dog for a walk in the middle of that ? Somebody else walking his dog there got shot a couple of nights ago, I don't know what happened with him or the dog. I'm glad it sounds like the one last night got away.

I hope the dog got away too -- if some knucklehead in the crowd didn't do something to it then the cops would be happy to shoot it. It's really unfortunate that what could be a good thing (an uprising against the police state) is just going to be remembered for idiots like these looting and attacking innocents.

 

[Ender]

Did you hear about the white guy with the dog who wanted to lend support to the protesters last night? They nearly attacked him and chased him off. They erroneously thought he was a cop. That tells you how far gone some of these people are.

Who the hell are "these people"? The peaceful protestors who were tear gassed? Assaulted by SWAT?

The "these people" we should be criticizing are the gov goons who can do whatever they want to anyone they want. If the cops are all white, I'd be suspicious myself.

As for those on the forum making the looting a bigger deal than the shooting- let's just hope that it isn't your loved one someday lying dead on the street because of an ego ridden po-po.

The looting was a minor event by a few- the shooting was a major event and damned permanent.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Who the hell are "these people"?

This is an interesting phenomenon. Some of the language that we read and hear with regard to what is happening down there (and more often focusing on the looting alone) is very similar in nature to the imperialist/militarist mindset that we find from the war rattlers who would support the same model as a legitimate method of logic in foreign policy. Does that make sense? It's kind of ironic that many in the so called conservative faction condone (politically) the looting of entire nations and their resources for financial gain by way of militarized contractors and such and so it is almost fitting that the looting that we are seeing down there would trump the terms of controversy instead of militarized operations that we are seeing there in Ferguson. I've read from many, many folks in that community that they in no way supported the looting and were not involved in it yet the fact remains that it is also their community and personal property that is being fired upon.

Of course, I'm not condoning the looting. Just sharing an observation. Well...very vaguely. Really don't feel like scribbling up what could amount to a small book to explain the midset. I suppose that the word I'm looking for would be doublespeak.

 

[Anti Federalist]

How to not get bad press:

* do not attack journalists.


How to not get your department taken over by the feds:

* do not make bad press worse


How to not make bad press worse:

* do not attack journalists

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Well, that's pretty obvious. People like to pretend we live in some sort of post-racial America, but blacks are still viewed as subhuman and subjected to harsher punishment under the law in comparison to whites (even when they commit the same 'crimes'). They're targeted by stop-and-frisks, have a history of being portrayed as criminals or shady characters in media (while the white mobs are romanticized), have been targeted and had their communities destroyed by the war on drugs, have a history of slavery and struggle in the not-too-distant past, grow up in poverty and a lot of the time to single parents, don't have many positive role models, see people clutch their purses or cross the street in their presence, are told they're 'one of the good ones' all the time by people who lack tact (as if to say blacks are inherently inferior as a whole), deal with stupid, racist comments on websites casting a wide net on people of color (check out a lot of YouTube videos), etc.

It goes on. Ask any white person if they'd prefer to live life as a black person and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would want to subject themselves to the shit black people have to deal with on a daily basis.

And remember, the NRA and Saint Reagan advocated for gun control when blacks wanted to open carry.

You make a good point. White privilege may exist, but it's really only defined by a lack of respect for blacks, and it only exists because the government treats blacks so poorly. While society's idea of white privilege is merely a figment of our collective imagination, the real white privilege is simply the continued discrimination on the part of the state and it is much more real and pervasive than any notion of privilege supposedly ingrained into society as a whole.

 

[otherone]

Well, that's pretty obvious. People like to pretend we live in some sort of post-racial America, but blacks are still viewed as subhuman and subjected to harsher punishment under the law in comparison to whites (even when they commit the same 'crimes').

YUP
This is a bi-product of the civil rights movement. Separation and marginalization.

 

[69360]

Why do black people always loot and burn their own neighborhoods when they get mad at the cops? It's never made any sense.